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04-01-2011, 12:36 PM   #16
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QuoteOriginally posted by gabriel_bc Quote
If you mark the value as zero and it gets lost, how do you make a claim?

Also, if Eric marks the value as $50 or somesuch, then that's all you'd get for insurance if it's lost on the way back, right?
I don't know how Eric ships things to Canada, but if someone sends something via regular first class mail, there is no insurance (from the post office). You can get insurance by sending it Registered Mail or by sending it Prioirty/Express mail, but that usually costs about $20+ more. In those cases, you can't insure it for more than the declared value.

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If you send it with an export certificate for service and it is returned with that you should be able to insure for value of the unit AFAIK
Didn't see your reply before I posted the above reply. That sounds like the best course of action if someone wants insurance on their shipment

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That is because UPS are money grubbing ass-holes. They should be sued for collecting duty on camera gear from Canada to the U.S. and vice versa because there are supposed to be none. That means they are shaking people down.
unfortunately they are not collecting "duty" they are charging a fee for custome\s clearance. Basically they charge this fee regardless of the duty that applies to any object, other than documents.

Because they are a courier, they can do this, although, it is higholy irregular to charge the receiving person, normally they should include this in the fee paid by the shipper,

But overall I agree with your assessment
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QuoteOriginally posted by gabriel_bc Quote
If you mark the value as zero and it gets lost, how do you make a claim?

Also, if Eric marks the value as $50 or somesuch, then that's all you'd get for insurance if it's lost on the way back, right?
Thatís the dilemma you face when you insure something you send outside of Canada, the declared value on the customs form must equal or exceed the insured value. So if you insure your LX for $400 and send it to Eric, he may have to pay taxes on that amount. Same for when itís sent back to you, even though most camera equipment is duty free itís not tax free. Even though you have the paper work indicating the item is yours, you may have to pay the taxes upfront and apply for a refund which is a hassle.

Iíve never had any issues with stuff sent to Eric, I pay extra and use a track able postal service as my insurance. (Sending and receiving)

I did get burnt with a CD player I sent to the US for service, they sent it back with a declared value of $900 and I had to pay taxes on that amount. I did get most of the money back by opening a case with CBSA, but it took a couple months. (I still had to pay taxes on the repairs) I also had to pay taxes one time on a Xmas gift sent from my sister in-law living in the US. It didnít seem to matter that the package was marked as a ďgiftĒ, we still got charged GST & PST on the declared amount.

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They should be sued for collecting duty on camera gear from Canada to the U.S. and vice versa
The extra fees are not to cover duty. That, if any, would be paid as an additional amount. Instead, the fees are for the "customs broker" service they provide. A explanation of the customs broker role is beyond the scope of this thread, but it is enough to say that the service is generally not needed for personal purchases of a small number of items.

Rip-off? Absolutely!!!


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Here is another option a guy I work with has used. You use this mailing place in Blaine Washington as your shipping destination, then you drive down and pickup your parcel after they email you that it has arrived. No duties & taxes and you can insure to the max. You just have to deal with the boarder guards coming back. Also depends on how far you live from Blaine to make it viable.

http://www.hagensofblaine.com/index.php

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QuoteOriginally posted by gofour3 Quote
Here is another option a guy I work with has used. You use this mailing place in Blaine Washington as your shipping destination, then you drive down and pickup your parcel after they email you that it has arrived. No duties & taxes and you can insure to the max. You just have to deal with the boarder guards coming back. Also depends on how far you live from Blaine to make it viable.

Hagen's of Blaine -- (360) 332-5246 -- Shipping & Receiving, Private Mail Boxes, Fax Service, Photo Copies, Online Consignment

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Making the trip to Blaine to get around the law are we?

Reminds me of back in the early '80s when there was a row of porno theaters in Blaine that catered to people seeking visual treats denied them by the fairly strict BC censors.


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QuoteOriginally posted by stevebrot Quote
Making the trip to Blaine to get around the law are we?

Reminds me of back in the early '80s when there was a row of porno theaters in Blaine that catered to people seeking visual treats denied them by the fairly strict BC censors.


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Yes I remember those days!!

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There is no taxes if the "small" parcel is handled by the post office. The reason for this is: it would cost Federal Government more than a dollar to collect a dollar, because they have to pay certain wages to hire more customs officers. I bought a lot of things on-line from US, Hong Kong, and China, the packages were always delivered to the door without tax. If the parcel is handled by couriers, that's another story. They will go by the books to collect taxes, plus that obsc*ne customs brokerage fees (except shipped by express).

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Eric just returned my Spotmatic F and a lens via United States Parcel Post. Canada Express Post took over this side of the border and delivered it to my home. No duty was charged as it was clearly marked as repair and return. Value was entered as $50
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