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06-18-2011, 06:21 AM   #91
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As long as Kodak, Fuji etc keep making film there will be people shooting film since there are millions of 35mm and MF cameras out there. I just wish I used up my old film before getting digital cameras ten years ago.

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We in the industrialized world, flooded with Chinese- and otherwhere-made digital imaging gear, may see film as a vanishing species. But other worlds exist. The last time I was in Guatemala the country still had big tariffs on Chinese imports. Digital products were rare and expensive and often smuggled-in; film was EVERYWHERE. And if you're off-the-grid anywhere for more than a couple weeks, you're best off with a hand-crank camera, a solar light meter, and a crate of film.

Yes, Kodak-Fuji-etc will keep producing film as long as WalMart keeps stocking it, as long as tens or hundreds of millions of people keep buying it. And if the 'majors' ever stop producing it, boutique film-labs will churn it out to meet the demand.
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QuoteOriginally posted by RioRico Quote
We in the industrialized world, flooded with Chinese- and otherwhere-made digital imaging gear, may see film as a vanishing species. But other worlds exist. The last time I was in Guatemala the country still had big tariffs on Chinese imports. Digital products were rare and expensive and often smuggled-in; film was EVERYWHERE. And if you're off-the-grid anywhere for more than a couple weeks, you're best off with a hand-crank camera, a solar light meter, and a crate of film.

Yes, Kodak-Fuji-etc will keep producing film as long as WalMart keeps stocking it, as long as tens or hundreds of millions of people keep buying it. And if the 'majors' ever stop producing it, boutique film-labs will churn it out to meet the demand.
You are right in a lot of Ways Rico, but the main determining factor for Kodak and Fuji on colour will be the motion picture industry. the economies of scale come from them. When (if ) they get out of film for projection and production then I imagine Kodak and Fuji may well kill film production, whether boutique guys can produce quality colour film remains to be seen, b/w is largely a boutique market already with more films from the small guys than the big guys. there is still probably a decade or so at minimum for the colour (though processing is getting harder all the time), the b/w could go on indefinitely i would think since it's easy to home process and many of the film manufacturers make the chemicals as well (not to mention you can mix your own easily enough)
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Worse case scenario we end up with large format glass plates.

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Worse case scenario we end up with large format glass plates.
Which is a great excuse to start looking at those old plate cameras NOW before the prices go up!
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Which is a great excuse to start looking at those old plate cameras NOW before the prices go up!
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Which is a great excuse to start looking at those old plate cameras NOW before the prices go up!
I guess we may as well start working on a plate holder for the scanner.

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I guess we may as well start working on a plate holder for the scanner.
Easier to contact print it (albumen prints are easy lol)
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Easier to contact print it (albumen prints are easy lol)
Yes, and after that scanning's a breeze
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Yes, and after that scanning's a breeze
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That puts a whole new meaning to "over easy."
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Worse case scenario we end up with large format glass plates.
Anyone know a recipe for making your own emulsions?
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i haven't looked but i bet you can find something here, certainly the recipes are there for making various printing process papers (I wonder if you could use the Iford Liquid emulsion you can buy for coating alternative materials)

Processes How-To AlternativePhotography.com
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Digital obsolescence

The standard 35mm film cartridge has been available for the better part of a century.
Digital memory card formats common just ten years ago are already no longer manufactured.
I am confident 35mm film will be available long after today's ubiquitous SD card has bitten the dust.

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QuoteOriginally posted by ChrisPlatt Quote
The standard 35mm film cartridge has been available for the better part of a century.
The Wikipedia entry on 135 film says Kodak introduced 135 in 1934. I once had a copy of the first 135 (35mm cart) still camera, the nifty German 1934 Kodak Retina I folder. So 135 has been around almost 4/5 century. Not bad. Not quite as long as 78 rpm records, but not bad...
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