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05-14-2012, 05:17 AM   #31
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I would suggest you the MZ serie if batteries are a problem. You can easily find the grip with a MZ-7/5n/3, it remplace the two CR batteries by four standar AA bateries

And yes, the DA35 is ff. In fact, it's'my best film lens in every aspect, so far

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QuoteOriginally posted by aurele Quote
And yes, the DA35 is ff. In fact, it's'my best film lens in every aspect, so far
What film body do you use? Hahah thanks to your suggestion, I'm now itching for that MZ-3. If it was just closer to my city...

...GBA is driving me nuts. lol
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QuoteOriginally posted by Alizarine Quote
Thanks to the OP for making this thread! On the KMP site it says that the MZ-3 has Av mode - therefore, you can control aperture in-body, right? I'm looking to buy this one at a local secondhand shop (needs some repair with the mirror though). Doesn't have to have control wheels, buttons will do as long as I can use my DA 35 with it (which is largely said to be FF-compliant also).

I would recommend the Z-1P though it's really big. I've seen an SFX/SF1 alongside the MZ-3 I'm planning to buy and they can control aperture directly from the body via buttons (tested it, so I can guarantee). Prob with the SF1 though is the battery - 2CR5's aren't very common in stores nowadays (or at least in my country maybe)

This is an old thread, but since it is active again, the MZ-3 has an A-mode, but it requires lenses with aperture rings to work. That is one of the few things I don't like about this body. It has a fast shutter for the MZ series, 1/4000. Only the MZ-S has a faster shutter. It has a slightly bigger vf than the S. But if your lens lacks an aperture ring, you will not be able to operate in the A mode. the MZ-6/MZ-L can.
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QuoteOriginally posted by aurele Quote
I would suggest you the MZ serie if batteries are a problem. You can easily find the grip with a MZ-7/5n/3, it remplace the two CR batteries by four standar AA bateries

And yes, the DA35 is ff. In fact, it's'my best film lens in every aspect, so far
You better clarify which DA 35.

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But if your lens lacks an aperture ring, you will not be able to operate in the A mode. the MZ-6/MZ-L can.
There lies the problem... I wonder why the higher-end model MZ-3 does not support IB aperture control...
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There lies the problem... I wonder why the higher-end model MZ-3 does not support IB aperture control...
I have wondered about that myself. It could have been an oversight. At the time, there weren't many lenses in the Pentax lineup that lacked an aperture ring.
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So is the complete list just these 2 cameras then?
PZ-1
MZ-7

EDIT: removed MZ-5n. So just 2 now.

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I use the MZ-5n, which doesn't control directly aperture. YOu choose speed to get the aperture you want.

About the DA 35, i mean the DA(L) 35/2.4 not the macro ltd.

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Z-20 and Z-70 can also control the aperture through the body.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Alizarine Quote
There lies the problem... I wonder why the higher-end model MZ-3 does not support IB aperture control...
Because the camera was designed to be operated clasically. so with aperture ring and shutter speed dial. Modern on the inside, classic on the outside. It was put in the market as such
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Until the FAJ lenses were released (when the *ist was launched?) all lenses had aperture rings so it wasn't an issue. The Z-1 was able to do it because it was necessary for the HyperProgram & HyperManual exposure modes along with the 'double dials'. The Z-1 still had the limitations with DOF preview in 'A' (always stopping down the minimum aperture) and not being able to read the actual aperture of a variable aperture zoom lens (my MZ-M does both of these).
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Okay, so here's an updated list of cameras allowing manual control of aperture from the body below. If corrections or additions are needed let me know.

The two cameras not verified means I couldn't find the manual to confirm operation, however I'm assuming it's allowed due to the cameras having a rotating dial, similar models being able to and the time period the camera was released.

Z-1/PZ-1
Z-1p/PZ-1p
Z-20/PZ-20
Z-20p
Z-50p (not verified)
Z-70/PZ-70
Z-70p (not verified)
MZ-50/ZX-50
MZ-7/ZX-7
MZ-30/ZX-30
MZ-6/MZ-L/ZX-L
MZ-60/ZX-60
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