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08-03-2019, 06:54 PM - 4 Likes   #8491
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One where the water damage is fairly minor. It's there if you really look for it, but you're probably going to notice the massive amounts of grain first.



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QuoteOriginally posted by g026r Quote
One where the water damage is fairly minor. It's there if you really look for it, but you're probably going to notice the massive amounts of grain first.



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What caused the water damage?
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1974 Plus-X, wow! That's going back.
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QuoteOriginally posted by dsmithhfx Quote
What caused the water damage?
Water, most likely.

Probably just improperly stored over the years. I don't recall what other rolls were in this lot, so I can't easily shoot & develop one of them to check.


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1974 Plus-X, wow! That's going back.
I think the oldest thing I have in the fridge at the moment is some early '70s Neopan SSS. That one is going to be a real adventure.
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I think the oldest thing I have in the fridge at the moment is some early '70s Neopan SSS. That one is going to be a real adventure.
How does the film base look? I'd think it would be pretty dense from fogging? I have some 1993-1997 120 film I just picked up from a friend who stopped shooting it when digital came out.

The film includes: (8) Velvia 50, (8) Ektar 25, (1) Super HR 100, (1) Super HG 400, (10) 220 NPH 400, (1) Agfa Pan 25 and (2) HP5

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QuoteOriginally posted by tuco Quote
How does the film base look? I'd think it would be pretty dense from fogging? I have some 1993-1997 120 film I just picked up from a friend who stopped shooting it when digital came out.
The fogging is pretty noticable, even when using HC-110 and slightly cooler temperatures for development.

I'd say that the fogging is probably about 2 zones worth on the 9 zone scale.

That said, I just dev'd a 1984 roll of Agfapan 100 last night and there's at most one zone of fogging on it, if even that.

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QuoteOriginally posted by g026r Quote
The fogging is pretty noticable, even when using HC-110 and slightly cooler temperatures for development.

I'd say that the fogging is probably about 2 zones worth on the 9 zone scale.

That said, I just dev'd a 1984 roll of Agfapan 100 last night and there's at most one zone of fogging on it, if even that.
Okay.

For an idea of extremes of current film, here is what I measure for film base + fog density where fog is from developing and environmental factors.

Delta 3200: Base + Fog = 0.34 density
Rollei RPX 25: = 0.08 to 0.10
Old roll Plus-X I have = 0.20

If you have any of those developed films you can compare your older film on a light table to visually see if it is more or in between them. I think they pre-flash Delta 3200. That's why its blacks are really never that deep. Typically, zone 1 density goes from base+fog to 0.10 density above it. For delta 3200 that would be a density of ~0.44. And for RPX 25 would be a density of ~0.20. So Delta3200 deepest black is like zone III level of black on RPX 25.
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