[stevebrot]

Grainy and dark is what I remember reading, but i can't find it that description anywhere.

That does not sound like RR 80S. It is derived from aero stock and is fine-grained. Its signature characteristic is extended red/near IR sensitivity (so-called super panchromatic) making it desirable for nudes and male portraits as well as for landscapes. My experience is that it is not particularly curly, but I have mostly shot 35mm. I am a fan.

For a good discussion of the film and its characteristics:

Freestyle Photographic | Rollei Retro 80s Test - Aurelien Le Duc

Freestyle Photographic | Rollei Retro 80s/Aviphot Pan 80 Datasheet

Freestyle Photographic | Rollei Retro 80s Dev Chart

I process mine in HC-110 according to Le Duc's notes in the first PDF.

Here a couple of examples:

35mm (the shirt and hat are bright red)




120 roll film (flowers are white)




35mm




Steve

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Its signature characteristic is extended red end sensitivity (so-called super panchromatic) making it desirable for nudes and male portraits as well as for landscapes.

That could explain why I like it in white clouds / blue skies situations with an orange or red filter!

The curl... (RPX25)


curl par Kris Lockyear, on ipernity

I tried RPX25 as I thought it would give me nice long exposures in the pinhole camera, but the curl has put me off...

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That does not sound like RR 80S. If is derived from aero stock and is fine-grained. Its signature characteristic is extended red/near IR sensitivity (so-called super panchromatic) making it desirable for nudes and male portraits as well as for landscapes. My experience is that it is not particularly curly, but I have mostly shot 35mm. I am a fan.

Steve

Very cool, thank you for taking the time to show me this. Are your second and third picture filtered?

Also, i'm reluctant to google this (work computer), but can do it at home, but.... male and female portraits have different requirements? Does the skin have different colour reflection between the genders?

Thank you again, i'll add some 80S to my next order, maybe a roll of 400S too, just to balance it out.

[tuco]

Yeah, Steve's images are fine examples. More relatable for 135 film people.

Here is RR 80S in 120 roll :

Yellow Filter





No Filter





Yellow Filter

[stevebrot]

Very cool, thank you for taking the time to show me this. Are your second and third picture filtered?

I believe all three were were without filter, though I have shot it with yellow or #12 minus-blue with good results.


Steve

[tuco]

Crown Graphic, FP4+

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ok, i gotta say i've been very mistaken about the 80s. I also have to hurry up and get a yellow filter that fits the lenses i actually use... That you all for shedding light on my error

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So, in school I fell in love with an RB67. So, i bought one of my own. It had been used in a portrait studio, so had lots of extra bits and bobs attached to it. While great for value purposes, they didn't bring the same joy of use. So, after being dormant for... 10 years... it got pulled out, and stripped down. Took it to work, and tried to see my skills in hand holding it. Only editing is basic crop, and some dust/scan detritus removal.

RB67 Pro S, 127mm
Tri-X

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Same testing, works well, but the pictures have some artifact in the upper right corner. I'll have to look at the camera to see if i missed some filth on the lens, etc.
Smoke was just starting to roll in, so some minor PP to try to bring up the contrast on the mountain.

RB67 Pro S, 127mm. Tri-X again.

[tuco]

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Smoke was just starting to roll in, so some minor PP to try to bring up the contrast on the mountain.

RB67 Pro S, 127mm. Tri-X again.

Is that Mt. Baker in the background?

I think when you are converting analog to digital, you can't avoid basic 'post processing' (scanning software or image editor). It's inherent in the conversion. The contrast curve has to be adjusted. Assuming the automagic setting in a scanning software represents the true essence of the film is perhaps naive. With negative film, it's all about reproducing a second generation image just to view it. Be it on print paper (of different contrast grades, textures and tones) or with a scan and a computer screen.

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Is that Mt. Baker in the background?

I think when you are converting analog to digital, you can't avoid basic 'post processing' (scanning software or image editor). It's inherent in the conversion. The contrast curve has to be adjusted. Assuming the automagic setting in a scanning software represents the true essence of the film is perhaps naive. With negative film, it's all about reproducing a second generation image just to view it. Be it on print paper (of different contrast grades, textures and tones) or with a scan and a computer screen.

Good eye! Yes, this is the side of Baker you don't normally see

Agreed, I'm not trying to state that there's anything wrong with the editing, I just want to be clear it's not SOOC. This is a commercial scan, so there is that layer of "control" taken away.

I recall my darkroom days, and to say that there was no editing then is an outright lie. The tools are different, but the goal is the same. The same goes for digital - so many people choose to shoot in RAW so they are forced to take care of the PP themselves. I believe that my goal is to use my camera (whichever one) to capture the best representation of the image in my mind, and then some editing after to get that much closer to the "ideal". Of course, just my two cents

[tuco]

Downsizing...
Fuji GSW690III, 400TMY, PMK Pyro

[tuco]

Along the Columbia River near Astoria.
Pentax 6x7, 67 200/4, PXP 6057

This building is gone now. A large tree trunk became entangled in the pilings during a storm. It thrashed around eventually collapsing a large section of the building.

[tuco]

Pentax 6x7, 67 200/4, TX 6043 Gen Tri-X

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Old photo workflow update.

FP4 (old version) in sheet film.





TXT 4164 Gen Tri-X