[g026r]

I bought a 100ft roll of UN54 last winter, fully intending to shoot it over the summer. I think we can all guess how that went. Still, it's one of my favourite films.





Canon F-1.
Vivitar Auto Telephoto 90mm f2.8 Macro.
ORWO UN54.

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[wkraus]

Weaving, High Atlas, Morocco, 1985 (crossposted from "Show those old photos from before 1990")
Pentax Super A, smc Pentax-M 1:1.4 50mm, Ilford HP5 film/Promicrol 1+3 developer. I took this photo on my birthday, May 18, during an eight months stay in the High Atlas mountains doing ethnographic fieldwork.

[wkraus]

I've had a similar response. I've shot it in both 135 and 120 now and when it's great it absolutely sings, but I can't always get consistent results with it.

That said, I currently send to a lab for developing, so I'd prefer not to form a final opinion until I've developed a few rolls myself.

I shot one roll of Bergger Pancro 400 in my Bessa I and developed it in ID-11 (1+1, 18 min. at 20°) but wasn’t overly impressed. It is extremely grainy with a grain structure that I didn’t like a lot. Here is one of the better shots from that roll.

[nickthetasmaniac]

I shot one roll of Bergger Pancro 400 in my Bessa I and developed it in ID-11 (1+1, 18 min. at 20°) but wasn’t overly impressed. It is extremely grainy with a grain structure that I didn’t like a lot. Here is one of the better shots from that roll.

It is certainly grainy, although I quite like the grain structure. As mentioned above somewhere, I'd really like to shoot some more when I'm doing my own dev. From the samples I've seen, it often looks pretty average but sometimes looks stunning...

Here's an assortment of my negs, 135 and 120.


MX and SMC-M 28/f2


Autocord and 75mm Chiyoko Rokkor


M2 and 5cm Summicron Collapsible


MX and SMC-M 28/f2


Autocord and 75mm Chiyoko Rokkor


MX and SMC-M 28/f2


Rolleiflex 2.8D and 80mm Planar


Rolleiflex 2.8D and 80mm Planar


Rolleiflex 2.8D and 80mm Planar

[dsmithhfx]

It is certainly grainy, although I quite like the grain structure. As mentioned above somewhere, I'd really like to shoot some more when I'm doing my own dev. From the samples I've seen, it often looks pretty average but sometimes looks stunning...

Here's an assortment of my negs, 135 and 120

The grain is more acceptable in 120. I think it's a film that you need a pretty clear idea what subjects might be more amenable, rather than random snapshooting, so more of a niche film.

[Vendee]

The grain is more acceptable in 120. I think it's a film that you need a pretty clear idea what subjects might be more amenable, rather than random snapshooting, so more of a niche film.

I think you are spot on about the film being picky about the subject. I looked at scans of the few films I'd developed and scanned and there shots on the same roll that looked good and some that looked bad. The two shots below were on the same roll and shot 5 minutes apart. I don't think the film is so good with highlights.

I might try a roll of 120 in my Yashica 24 once I'm sure I've managed to fix the shutter at the 3rd attempt





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It is certainly grainy, although I quite like the grain structure. As mentioned above somewhere, I'd really like to shoot some more when I'm doing my own dev. From the samples I've seen, it often looks pretty average but sometimes looks stunning...

Here's an assortment of my negs, 135 and 120.


MX and SMC-M 28/f2


Autocord and 75mm Chiyoko Rokkor


M2 and 5cm Summicron Collapsible


MX and SMC-M 28/f2


Autocord and 75mm Chiyoko Rokkor


MX and SMC-M 28/f2


Rolleiflex 2.8D and 80mm Planar


Rolleiflex 2.8D and 80mm Planar


Rolleiflex 2.8D and 80mm Planar

The MX shot of the yacht shows so much grain compared to the Autocord. I know it is 35mm vs 120 but even so....

The last Rolleiflex shot looks really nice.

[stevebrot]

I shot one roll of Bergger Pancro 400 in my Bessa I and developed it in ID-11 (1+1, 18 min. at 20°) but wasn’t overly impressed. It is extremely grainy with a grain structure that I didn’t like a lot. Here is one of the better shots from that roll.

Bergger does not publish development times for ID-11. Is it possible the time was a little long?


Steve

[Swift1]

I do love the St. John's Bridge. Good work! You lined it all up perfectly.


Steve

Thank you, Steve

[Vendee]

Bergger does not publish development times for ID-11. Is it possible the time was a little long?


Steve

The MDC suggests 17 minutes for ID11 1+1 and I've developed a roll at that. I initially thought the negs were too dark but I developed subsequent rolls in HC110 dil b for 9 minutes as per MDC. The negs were the same so I think it was just me. They all printed fine in the darkroom. I guess when something like Tri-x in ID11 1+1 takes only 13 minutes, the 17 minutes for Pancro 400 does feel too long.

[wkraus]

Bergger does not publish development times for ID-11. Is it possible the time was a little long?


Steve

I took the 17 min. recommendation mentioned by Vendee above as a starting point. The folding Bessa is not too contrasty with its Skopar lens and the film contrast looked right.

[stevebrot]

The MDC suggests 17 minutes for ID11 1+1 and I've developed a roll at that.

I have never shot Bergger or used ID-11, but have found the MDC to be unreliable on several occasions when dealing with other than main-stream emulsions (specifically RR 80s). The MDC recommendations for HC-110 dilution B are straight from the Panchro 400 data sheet and the ID-11 numbers appear to be taken from those for D-76 (stock and 1:1), which seems reasonable.

I guess I will just have to get me a couple of rolls to see how it behaves with my preferred flow.


Steve

[nickthetasmaniac]

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The MX shot of the yacht shows so much grain compared to the Autocord. I know it is 35mm vs 120 but even so....

The last Rolleiflex shot looks really nice.

Indeed, the 35mm version is noticeably grainy in all the conditions I've shot it. As mentioned above, I like the grain. Other's may not. YMMV.

What I don't like so much about Pancro is the tendency for underexposed shadows to turn into very grainy, detail-less voids. This is clearly apparent in your second shot of the car. I'm not sure if this is a developing issue or a characteristic of the film.

[cobbu2]

Mesquite Sand Dunes at sunrise, Death Valley National Park

P6x7, (early Non-MLU), SMC Pentax 6x7 55mm f/4, Kodak 320TXP (220), HC-110B

[stevebrot]

Mesquite Sand Dunes at sunrise, Death Valley National Park

P6x7, (early Non-MLU), SMC Pentax 6x7 55mm f/4, Kodak 320TXP (220), HC-110B

Wow!


Steve

[cobbu2]

Thanks Steve... the P6x7/TXP combo works well!