I Screwed up Pretty Hard

Stone G. · 01-30-2012, 04:55 AM

And I have managed with my K1000 somehow to tear the perforation holes upon loading. Took some 20 exposures in a single frame, before I noticed that the rewind knob didn't turn as it should.

mickeyobe · 01-30-2012, 05:41 AM

Welcome to the club.
It has a pretty large membership.

Mickey

mickeyobe · 01-30-2012, 05:45 AM

You could buy a film extractor.
Or, if you are lucky, your friendly photo shop might have one and extract the leader for you.

Mickey

8540tomg · 01-30-2012, 06:12 AM

I don’t have an “ OH s**t, I dropped a lens moment” but I think this one qualifies in this category.. My story goes back to my film days. Rick Hansen was doing his "Wheels in Motion" tour crossing Canada in a wheelchair for charity and passed through our town. It was –30 C that day as I positioned myself to catch him silhouetted against the sky coming up the overpass. The light was perfect as I blasted away with my MX/winder combination. He later spoke at the local arena to a gathering of students. I was close enough to see the filthy rags of adhesive tape he used to protect his hands, They were hanging down like dirty icicles as he gripped the wheel and I thought wow that image tells the whole story. I zeroed in on the hands and top of the wheel. I took multiple shots. I was certain I had nailed the shot. I arrived home later that day only to find the leader in the film canister had ripped off due to the cold. I suspect I lost some of the best shots I (almost) ever took that day. The images are still burned in my mind but I have no evidence.

Tom G

LesDMess · 01-30-2012, 06:12 AM

Who knew that "photo shop" can also be used to extract film . . . ;-)

Done it myself a few times but I wonder how much more of this were attributable to some camera designs like the Nikon F, F2 & F3 (and others?) where the rewind knob can be covered-up by a flash as it is also the flash mount? Or how about the take up sppol design of the ME Super and the like?

**TomB_tx** · 01-30-2012, 06:22 AM

Getting to frame 42 is always an eye-(and brain)-opener. Happened to me after capturing the sights in Washington DC in 1970. I blame it on the Army - it had been a wile since I handled a camera.

**blackcloudbrew** · 01-30-2012, 06:30 AM

Been there done that. The other one is to open the back not realizing that the film hasn't been rewound. Done that too.

**ChrisPlatt** · 01-30-2012, 07:04 AM

As mentioned by others we've all done this.

In fact this is an official 35mm film shooter's rite of passage.

Welcome to the club!

Chris

johnmflores · 01-30-2012, 07:07 AM

I toured Europe years ago with an Olympus XA2 in my fanny pack. Yes, a fanny pack - they were cool back then. Anyways, I would sometimes pass the time at train stations and on trains pressing the little button on the bottom of the camera, the one that you press when rewinding a finished roll, and ended up with a lot of double-exposures as a result! Doh!

**jimmm18** · 01-30-2012, 07:17 AM

Did it just a few weeks ago in on the first roll of film I loaded after many years! I even wrote down all the exposure info for the first time ever. Something wasn't right when I hit 28 on a 24 experience roll. I am sure it wasn't the first time I did it.

bam431 · 01-30-2012, 07:19 AM

Originally posted by victordeamorin

Hey, just did the same thing last week! Anyone knows how I could still use that roll of film now that it's fully rewinded inside the plastic box???

I did that on my first roll by accident after about 4 shots. This time around I managed to save the roll.

vladimiroltean · 01-30-2012, 08:28 AM

Do you know what this is?

Yes, this is film loading failure resulting in 15 overlapped photos on the first frame. Now that frame looked almost black, but the lab that scanned it managed to pull this out of it. Immense dynamic range, I might say. Digital would have hit pitch white after the second shot.

mtansley · 01-30-2012, 08:47 AM

Back in the late 80s (1980s that is) I had a new Minolta Dynax 7000i and it did everything of course, 1 button automatic film rewind as well.

However, it also used little plug in programming cards (like SD cards) and it came with the 'Custom Function' card that would let you set various options. One of the most useful options it let you set was to rewind the film by pressing the rewind button BUT leave the leader sticking out. I set that option the first day and left it set.

You could accidentally rewind the film and then reload it and advance to about the frame you'd left it at (as long as you remembered) by taking a load of photos with the lens cap on and the viewfinder covered.

I don't know who the genius at Minolta was who put that option in it but it did save me embarrassment several times.

hooverfocus · 01-30-2012, 09:00 AM

Well just recently I decided to take my MX for a ride... but on the back window there was still a piece of cardboard indicating I had some Ilford FP4+ inside. The counter, though, was set on the dot before the 0, so I was immediately assailed by doubts: "is the film inside?", "have I loaded it but haven't forwarded it yet?", "have I rewinded it already but left it in the camera?". So I spent the next 20 minutes trying to remeber what the case was, all the while searching online for frame indicator signals that could point me in either direction. As I eventually found out, the camera resets the counter to the dot every time you open the back, so I popped it open, and sure enough, nothing was inside... but I had just wasted enough time that the light outside was gone!

**monochrome** · 01-30-2012, 09:08 AM

Originally posted by bam431

. . . I feel like an idiot right now . . . ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS MAKE SURE THE REWIND KNOB SPINS.

The difference between chagrined and Doh! - Idiot! is whether it was the first or second time you did it.

And yes, it is a VERY large Club.

01-30-2012, 07:04 AM	#23
ChrisPlatt Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Rockaway Beach NYC Posts: 7,694	As mentioned by others we've all done this. In fact this is an official 35mm film shooter's rite of passage. Welcome to the club! Chris Last edited by ChrisPlatt; 01-30-2012 at 07:12 AM.

01-30-2012, 07:17 AM	#25
jimmm18 Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: San Francisco Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 290	Did it just a few weeks ago in on the first roll of film I loaded after many years! I even wrote down all the exposure info for the first time ever. Something wasn't right when I hit 28 on a 24 experience roll. I am sure it wasn't the first time I did it. Last edited by jimmm18; 01-31-2012 at 12:23 AM.

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01-30-2012, 04:55 AM	#16
Stone G. Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: North Zealand, Denmark Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,516	And I have managed with my K1000 somehow to tear the perforation holes upon loading. Took some 20 exposures in a single frame, before I noticed that the rewind knob didn't turn as it should.

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01-30-2012, 05:45 AM	#18
mickeyobe Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,759	You could buy a film extractor. Or, if you are lucky, your friendly photo shop might have one and extract the leader for you. Mickey

01-30-2012, 06:12 AM	#19
8540tomg Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Waterloo, Ontario Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,461	I don’t have an “ OH s**t, I dropped a lens moment” but I think this one qualifies in this category.. My story goes back to my film days. Rick Hansen was doing his "Wheels in Motion" tour crossing Canada in a wheelchair for charity and passed through our town. It was –30 C that day as I positioned myself to catch him silhouetted against the sky coming up the overpass. The light was perfect as I blasted away with my MX/winder combination. He later spoke at the local arena to a gathering of students. I was close enough to see the filthy rags of adhesive tape he used to protect his hands, They were hanging down like dirty icicles as he gripped the wheel and I thought wow that image tells the whole story. I zeroed in on the hands and top of the wheel. I took multiple shots. I was certain I had nailed the shot. I arrived home later that day only to find the leader in the film canister had ripped off due to the cold. I suspect I lost some of the best shots I (almost) ever took that day. The images are still burned in my mind but I have no evidence. Tom G

01-30-2012, 06:12 AM	#20
LesDMess Pentaxian Join Date: May 2011 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,235	Who knew that "photo shop" can also be used to extract film . . . ;-) Done it myself a few times but I wonder how much more of this were attributable to some camera designs like the Nikon F, F2 & F3 (and others?) where the rewind knob can be covered-up by a flash as it is also the flash mount? Or how about the take up sppol design of the ME Super and the like?

01-30-2012, 06:22 AM	#21
TomB_tx Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Texas Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,446	Getting to frame 42 is always an eye-(and brain)-opener. Happened to me after capturing the sights in Washington DC in 1970. I blame it on the Army - it had been a wile since I handled a camera.

01-30-2012, 06:30 AM	#22
blackcloudbrew Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Cotati, California USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,460	Been there done that. The other one is to open the back not realizing that the film hasn't been rewound. Done that too.

01-30-2012, 07:07 AM	#24
johnmflores Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Somerville, NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,361	I toured Europe years ago with an Olympus XA2 in my fanny pack. Yes, a fanny pack - they were cool back then. Anyways, I would sometimes pass the time at train stations and on trains pressing the little button on the bottom of the camera, the one that you press when rewinding a finished roll, and ended up with a lot of double-exposures as a result! Doh!

01-30-2012, 07:19 AM	#26
bam431 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Ottawa, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 45 Original Poster	Originally posted by victordeamorin Hey, just did the same thing last week! Anyone knows how I could still use that roll of film now that it's fully rewinded inside the plastic box??? I did that on my first roll by accident after about 4 shots. This time around I managed to save the roll.

01-30-2012, 08:28 AM	#27
vladimiroltean Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Bucharest, Romania Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,465	Do you know what this is? Yes, this is film loading failure resulting in 15 overlapped photos on the first frame. Now that frame looked almost black, but the lab that scanned it managed to pull this out of it. Immense dynamic range, I might say. Digital would have hit pitch white after the second shot.

01-30-2012, 08:47 AM	#28
mtansley Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ajax, Ontario, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,139	Back in the late 80s (1980s that is) I had a new Minolta Dynax 7000i and it did everything of course, 1 button automatic film rewind as well. However, it also used little plug in programming cards (like SD cards) and it came with the 'Custom Function' card that would let you set various options. One of the most useful options it let you set was to rewind the film by pressing the rewind button BUT leave the leader sticking out. I set that option the first day and left it set. You could accidentally rewind the film and then reload it and advance to about the frame you'd left it at (as long as you remembered) by taking a load of photos with the lens cap on and the viewfinder covered. I don't know who the genius at Minolta was who put that option in it but it did save me embarrassment several times.

01-30-2012, 09:00 AM	#29
hooverfocus Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 210	Well just recently I decided to take my MX for a ride... but on the back window there was still a piece of cardboard indicating I had some Ilford FP4+ inside. The counter, though, was set on the dot before the 0, so I was immediately assailed by doubts: "is the film inside?", "have I loaded it but haven't forwarded it yet?", "have I rewinded it already but left it in the camera?". So I spent the next 20 minutes trying to remeber what the case was, all the while searching online for frame indicator signals that could point me in either direction. As I eventually found out, the camera resets the counter to the dot every time you open the back, so I popped it open, and sure enough, nothing was inside... but I had just wasted enough time that the light outside was gone!

01-30-2012, 09:08 AM	#30
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by bam431 . . . I feel like an idiot right now . . . ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS MAKE SURE THE REWIND KNOB SPINS. The difference between chagrined and Doh! - Idiot! is whether it was the first or second time you did it. And yes, it is a VERY large Club.