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09-30-2012, 08:02 AM   #16
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QuoteOriginally posted by Jonathan Mac Quote
I've never heard of that film before, I wonder if it's any good. Has Superia 1600 been discontinued?
Discontinued in the states but alive and well in Japan. The new portra 400 is supposed to push better than the 800 because it has the vision 2 technology. I have seen some really good examples of portra 400 pushed to 3200 with 120 but would gess 1600 would be reasonable with 35mm

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Although I haven't tried it yet, given Kodak Portra 400's excellent latitude - even a minus 2 EV underexposure is useable, I would expect that using at 1600 and pushing in developing would return perfectly good results.


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I can't provide scann from negative film, because I tried them about 10-12 years ago and the result was so bad that I simply threw out negatives. Grain spoiled the image already on a 15х20cm print. It were Fuji Press 1600 and 800 films. Probably I got excited accusing all negative films, especially modern. But Fuji Provia 400F pushed to 1600ISO grain doesn't exceed some grain modern 400ISO negative films.
I have some full res ISO 1600 examples from the Nikon Coolscan 4000dpiI can share . . .

This one is Fuji Press 1600 with and without grain reduction.

Full res -> http://www.fototime.com/96DFC2A35FE7DA6/orig.jpg

I have plenty others that I will upload from Natura, Portra and others.
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QuoteOriginally posted by LesDMess Quote
This one is Fuji Press 1600 with and without grain reduction.
Hm... Good result. My result was much worse. Our seller badly stored a film, apparently.

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Provia 400F 120 push up 1600 ISO. Nikon CoolScan 8000. 100% crop.



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This one is from Fuji Natura shot and metered at ISO1600 scanned with the Coolscan 9000 with and without grain reduction. I wish they would make Natura available in the US!

Full res -> http://www.fototime.com/22E55310B690D7B/orig.jpg

BTW, I believe that the grain advantage is with slide films given the same ISO and exposure. However, I don't know if this is true with pushed characteristics. Of course "grain" is another one of those film characteristics that depend on ones personal taste.
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Provia 400F 120 push up 1600 ISO. Nikon CoolScan 8000. 100% crop.
Grain well under control. Was there post processing applied? Hard to really say as I can't seem to find critical focus.
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With all of this talk of pushing, do you guys change your development times for either film or prints?

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QuoteOriginally posted by LesDMess Quote
Grain well under control. Was there post processing applied? Hard to really say as I can't seem to find critical focus.
This picture was made on the old TLR camera "Lubitel-166" which lens (simple triplex) authorizes much less permission of the scanner. Impression of absence of focus therefore. My friend scanned this shot in the Silver Fast program and I don't know what settings were there. I asked to scan with the maximum details without filters. I received tiff and made of it this crop (jpg quality is 80).

I changed development time according to the instruction for a set of chemistry of Fuji Hunt. I am push Provia 400F to 800, 1600 and 3200 ISO. Push to 800 doesn't bring to voice-frequency misstatement and to appreciable growth of grain. Push to 1600 brings to accepted to grain and misstatements. Push to 3200 leads to notable misstatements of color and tone, a slide too dense for scanning, but grain remains acceptable. FujiFilm Provia 400X is issued now. This film is suitable for push better according to the producer. But I had no experience with it.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Simian Summit Quote
With all of this talk of pushing, do you guys change your development times for either film or prints?
Time of development changes for the film.
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