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07-16-2014, 09:17 AM - 1 Like   #1786
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QuoteOriginally posted by dcshooter Quote
Incidentally, the Retina lenses perform really well adapted to Pentax Digital with a DKL-PK adapter.

The Schneider Retina-Xenon 50mm f/1.9 is a true gem, stacking up favorably to comparably specced Leica and Zeiss glass, but at a fraction of the cost due to the relative anonymity of the Retina-Deckel mount.
Now you've done it. I thought I had whipped the LBA thing and now you have awakened the beast...


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QuoteOriginally posted by stevebrot Quote
Now you've done it. I thought I had whipped the LBA thing and now you have awakened the beast...


Steve

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Schneider Xenon 50mm f/1.9 and Kodak Retina IV



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Kodak Retina IV, the film rewind is at the bottom. And the shutter release is not on the top plate but on the body and I find it easy to hit the shutter



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Schneider Xena 45mm f/2.8 pancake was gone


The Schneider Xenon 50mm f/1.9 is very good when I tried it on Sony digital bodies.


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I originally get the lens aperture stuck on the Xenon and I managed to get it loosen up and now I have a unused body. Tempting to let go as I have too much gear, is Kodak Retina IV a worthy body to keep?. It looks very well built. The body has a leaf shutter and it is amazing to watch the leaf shutter in working with the shutter release.

A picture shot with the Tele-Xenar 135mm f/4.0


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beautiful chrome Schneider Tele-Xena 135mm f/4.0


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QuoteOriginally posted by stevebrot Quote
Now you've done it. I thought I had whipped the LBA thing and now you have awakened the beast...


Steve
Yep ... another Pandora's box to open, discover and collect aggresively ... (sigh)

And hin ... you're just throwing fuel on the fire !!!
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I'm just doing what the thread says posting camera porn.
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Keep it comming! We can take more. Nice line up

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The Tele-Xenar 135 f/4 on a K-01, with and without a Takumar 200 hood. The Tele-Xenar is a fine lens, certainly as sharp as the Super-Tak 135 f/3.5, and looks great on the black K-01. Unfortunately, its minimum focus distance is 14 feet.
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QuoteOriginally posted by hinman Quote
Tempting to let go as I have too much gear, is Kodak Retina IV a worthy body to keep?. It looks very well built. The body has a leaf shutter and it is amazing to watch to leaf shutter in working with the shutter release.
I don't have a Retina Reflex, but know they are a very complicated beast, with the leaf shutter mechanism. To look through the lens, the leaf shutter must be open, which necessitates another shutter blocking the film. Push the button, and the leaf shutter closes, the blocking shutter opens, and then the leaf shutter opens. I suspect that the Zeiss Contaflex operates much the same way with it's leaf shutter. Anyway, yours look lovely, and it is certainly a beautiful model to own, especially if it is still functional. I would not want to use this for everyday shooting though, due to expensive servicing needs. The range finder Retinas are more practical, and are made to last a lifetime.
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If you want to use Retina S/Reflex lenses on a somewhat more reliable film body, get a Voigtländer Bessamatic, which also uses the Deckel mount. A little modification of the lens mount with a Dremel grinder, and the lens will fit both makes. Note that I say "somewhat." The Bessamatic is also a bear to service if something does go wrong.

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Luckily, the Retina lens selection is rather small, and they tend to go fairly cheaply, so you aren't in as much danger as you might be with other systems. The fixed-aperture lenses probably aren't worth collecting for anything more than completeness's sake, but the adjustable aperture primes are all very nice. If you can find the Rodenstock versions of any of these lenses, they tend to be quite valuable, since they are much rarer and (I believe) were marketed in Germany only.

QuoteOriginally posted by Jean Poitiers Quote
Yep ... another Pandora's box to open, discover and collect aggresively ... (sigh)

And hin ... you're just throwing fuel on the fire !!!


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Per Wikipedia, the Complete list of Retina Deckel-Mount lenses:

  • Schneider-Kreuznach Retina-Curtagon 28mm f/4
  • Rodenstock Retina-Eurygon 30mm f/2.8
  • Rodenstock Retina-Eurygon 35m f/4
  • Schneider-Kreuznach Retina-Curtagon 35mm f/2.8
  • Schneider-Kreuznach Retina-Xenar 45mm f/2.8 (for Instamatic-Reflex, can be used with Retina-Reflex but not with the Retina IIIS)
  • Rodenstock Retina-Ysarex 50mm f/2.8
  • Schneider-Kreuznach Retina-Xenar 50mm f/2.8
  • Rodenstock Retina-Heligon 50mm f/1.9
  • Schneider-Kreuznach Retina-Xenon 50mm f/1.9
  • Rodenstock Retina-Rotelar 85mm f/4
  • Schneider-Kreuznach Retina-Tele-Arton 85mm f/4
  • Schneider-Kreuznach Retina-Tele-Arton 90mm f/4
  • Rodenstock Retina-Rotelar 135mm f/4
  • Schneider-Kreuznach Retina-Tele-Xenar 135mm f/4
  • Schneider-Kreuznach Retina-Tele-Xenar 200mm f/4.8 (does not have the rangefinder cam necessary for use with the Retina IIIS)


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Schneider Xenar 45mm f/2.8 is a pancake that can be converted to M42 and stays as pancake in terms of size.


Among the three Schneider Xena 45mm f/2.8, Xenon 50mm f/1.9 and the Tele-Xena 135mm f/4.0 that I have tried, the best image quality comes from the Schneider Xenon 50mm f/1.9. The performance on the 135mm f/4.0 is excellent but the long minimal focusing distance at 14 feet make it harder to use unless your subject focus is far. The 45mm f/2.8 is the cutest one as an alternative pancake with reasonable performance.

A word of caution on the DKL mount, many of the DKL to M42 or DKL to K mount adapters are priced in the $35 to $50 range many of them are poorly made with all sorts of failing issues after few usage. I ran through three DKL to M42 adapters to get one good one out of three. They all work initially and after a few mount, they lose the tight mounting or fail to lock the DKL lens into place.



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Xenar pancake on top, M42 to DKL adapter, M42 to Konicar AR, Konicar AR to Sony E, Sony A7 on bottom
A pancake with three adapters .... Oh my but still quite small



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Shot with Schneider Xenar 45mm f/2.8


Cheers,
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QuoteOriginally posted by hinman Quote
IMGP8426
Schneider Xenon 50mm f/1.9 and Kodak Retina IV



IMGP8431
Kodak Retina IV, the film rewind is at the bottom. And the shutter release is not on the top plate but on the body and I find it easy to hit the shutter



IMGP8432
Schneider Xena 45mm f/2.8 pancake was gone


The Schneider Xenon is very good when I tried it on Sony digital bodies.


IMGP8433

I originally get the lens aperture stuck on the Xenon and I managed to get it loosen up and now I have a unused body. Tempting to let go as I have too much gear, is Kodak Retina IV a worthy body to keep?. It looks very well built. The body has a leaf shutter and it is amazing to watch the leaf shutter in working with the shutter release.

A picture shot with the Tele-Xenar 135mm f/4.0


DSC07175
beautiful chrome Schneider Tele-Xena 135mm f/4.0


DSC02728
Hin...you are no help...


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QuoteOriginally posted by stevebrot Quote
Hin...you are no help...


Steve
Ditto !!!
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I had let go my excellent+ copy of Pentax 645N and today, I am taking consolation with my Yashica 124mat G. I took some gear porn on the Yashica Mat 124G when I first got it in 2010. It is a beauty.


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I had it today with me and contemplating which roll of expired film to use among Ektar, Portra, Acros, Tri-X and Agfa Rollei. I got the roll of Agfa Rollei Retra 80X from Steve and that is the only roll that has not expired. All of my other roll films expired in the range between 2011 and 2013.

I used to have Rolleiflex Automat and when I researched today, I find this Yashica versus Rollei twin-lens reflex cameras from Frugal Photographer

QuoteOriginally posted by Frugal Photographer:
f what you have is a 'Mat, LM, EM, C, D, 635, 12, 24, 124, or 124-G, then use it. Don't worry about trading "up" to a Rolleicord or f3.5 Tessar or Xenar Rolleiflex. You have nothing practical to gain, and the spiritual frisson some enthusiasts get from fondling Rollei gear doesn't impress me. Knob wind film advance is just fine, not as sexy or as fast as lever wind and it doesn't automatically cock the shutter, but it's perfectly useful (and it lets you double-expose, if you're into that).
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Hin...you are no help...


Steve
Steve, I am so sick that I buy cameras just for the look and gear porn pictures. Look at what I have done to the film gift from you -- the Agfa Rollei Retro.


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I took these product shots earlier contemplating which roll to go first. All of my roll films expired except the Rollei Retro that Steve gave me as a gift.


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And I found my vintage camera strap working well with my Yashica.


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I will hopefully find time to use my 120 films.

Film alert I go about online recently shopping for some color 135 films and I find fewer places with good discount and I wonder if the Agfa Vista Plus 400 is worth trying as it cost cheaper to test my unused camera with Contax 137MA -- my red camera.

AgfaPhoto Vista Plus 400 135-36 Film 1175259

Anyone using this film?

Thanks,
Hin

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The Yashica Mat is a lovely camera. Very beautiful and fun to use, I haven't used mine since last year though. I was considering taking it on holiday to Berlin in a week but I think a 35mm SLR will be more practical.

I think Agfa 400 is the same as Fuji Superia 400, but I'm not 100% certain. I know Agfa 200 is Fuji C200 and I've had decent results with it.
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QuoteOriginally posted by hinman Quote
I had let go my excellent+ copy of Pentax 645N and today, I am taking consolation with my Yashica 124mat G. I took some gear porn on the Yashica Mat 124G when I first got it in 2010. It is a beauty.
I am sorry that the 645N had to leave, but I know you had been considering a sale for some time. It is a beautiful camera and I thoroughly enjoyed the time I spent with it a few years ago. Thank you again for loaning it to me. I would have made an offer when you first discussed selling, but was not sure how much I would have actually used it.

Perhaps you will start using the Yashica now?


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