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10-16-2014, 10:40 AM   #2131
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I see that you two guys are experts in Nikon Lore...out of curiosity can you tell me the exact manufacturing date of my FM? I can't find any valuable info about it, I think it's 1978 (like manntax I've a soft spot for camera with my same manufacturing date) but I'm not 100% sure, it's FM2441654.

The serial number of my F2AS is a little strange, it's 7372042,so it appears it's a 1974, but I find it suspicious that all the odd numbered F2s are chromed and the even numbered black, surely they weren't producing the camera in black for an entire year and then they switched production to the other finish. The AS finder number starts with 86 so I have been told it's late 1978, can anybody shed light in these numbers of confusion?

BTW, as usual I started to "hot rod" the little bulldog, here you can see it in this pretty bad digital picture in the actual configuration with 50 mm f1.8 AIs, HS-5 hood (I think it's correct for the lens) and eyecup

I would like to add a fingergrip like the FG's, would it fit?


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The M*300 to add to the K85 and K55







Its a bit battered but tight and looks good optically



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QuoteOriginally posted by Cuthbert Quote
I see that you two guys are experts in Nikon Lore...out of curiosity can you tell me the exact manufacturing date of my FM? I can't find any valuable info about it, I think it's 1978 (like manntax I've a soft spot for camera with my same manufacturing date) but I'm not 100% sure, it's FM2441654.

The serial number of my F2AS is a little strange, it's 7372042,so it appears it's a 1974, but I find it suspicious that all the odd numbered F2s are chromed and the even numbered black, surely they weren't producing the camera in black for an entire year and then they switched production to the other finish. The AS finder number starts with 86 so I have been told it's late 1978, can anybody shed light in these numbers of confusion?

I would like to add a fingergrip like the FG's, would it fit?
There seems to be reliable data for manufacturing dates for the F and F2 but nothing else. According to Nikon F2 Serial Numbers and Production Dates, your F2 body was produced between Feb - Apr of 1974. I don't know about the number and body color association but there is a black F2 with serial number 7134379 in Nikon F2 Camera Bodies.

You might want my plain prism F2 serial number 788XXXX as it could have been produced in 1978 . . .



The FM seemed to be separated between serial number ranges 2XXXXXX and 3XXXXXX. According to Nikon FM & FM2 Camera Bodies, yours maybe 1977-78.

The FG finger grip doesn't quite mold around the FM body.

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The M*300 to add to the K85 and K55
Nice chunk of glass there!
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She's arrived!



It's a brick!

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She's arrived!



It's a brick!
I want your lens.


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I want your lens.


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With that lens the 7s weights more than a K2.
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She's arrived!
It's a brick!
Very nice, looks in great shape! Hope everything functions as intended.



It looks like Canon's last interchangeable lens RF. Interesting statement by Canon, "Even though the writing was on the wall for rangefinder cameras, the 7s was introduced as the successor to the Canon 7." Canon Camera Museum | Camera Hall - Film Cameras
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She's arrived!
Indeed solid looking. The prices have kept me from the Canon and Nikon rangefinders. Anyway, with 18 Retina/Retinettes and five Yashica Lynx, I have to stop somewhere. Of course, if a bargain ......

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QuoteOriginally posted by hoopsontoast Quote
The M*300 to add to the K85 and K55







Its a bit battered but tight and looks good optically


I've got that same M* 300, mine is pretty banged up on the body and hood too, but the glass is clean,
Focus was always a bit stiff with that lens, nice it did not creep, but could be hard to move it fast when you were tracking a bird.
I've tried it on my DSLRs, but not been very happy with it, maybe a different screen for manual focus...
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My newly aquired Nikon FT2 needed a lens. I found this one which came in it's original box and wrappings. Seems to have had little use.
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QuoteOriginally posted by LesDMess Quote
Very nice, looks in great shape! Hope everything functions as intended.



It looks like Canon's last interchangeable lens RF. Interesting statement by Canon, "Even though the writing was on the wall for rangefinder cameras, the 7s was introduced as the successor to the Canon 7." Canon Camera Museum | Camera Hall - Film Cameras
Almost...the last rangefinder was the Canon 7sz, or 7s2, or 7 markII, whatever the fans calls it, a refined 7s with larger rewind knob and some say better viewfinder, that was produced in 68-69 in limited quantities.

The difference between the standard 7 and the 7s is more remarkable, they replaced the selenium cell with a proper battery powered light meter, I checked it yesterday against my slrs and it appears to be accurate, unlike the Nikon rangefinder the Canons are cheap(besides the 7sz), I've seen a 7 with dead selenium meter going for less than $100, I bought this 7s not in mint condition for $200 (plus $400 for the golden lens), most people in the rangefinder world find them "ugly" and big...like the Leica m5.
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I suppose Canon didn't consider those variations of the 7S noteworthy enough - and the limited production, to identify it separately in their museum.
Looks like the weight and size were in line with cameras of the era - even less than the SLRs. I suppose then that something weighty and substantial made you think you were getting your moneys worth . . .

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My newly aquired Nikon FT2 needed a lens. I found this one which came in it's original box and wrappings. Seems to have had little use.
Nice lens but you need a non-AI lens to keep it in character. . .
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QuoteOriginally posted by arnold Quote
Indeed solid looking. The prices have kept me from the Canon and Nikon rangefinders. Anyway, with 18 Retina/Retinettes and five Yashica Lynx, I have to stop somewhere. Of course, if a bargain ......
My Canon P (EX+ condition) was not too expensive, but the price of Canon glass has resulted in nothing but FSU lenses being mated with that camera. The Soviet stuff is good, but I still miss the fit and finish of a good Japanese or German lens.


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QuoteOriginally posted by stevebrot Quote
My Canon P (EX+ condition) was not too expensive, but the price of Canon glass has resulted in nothing but FSU lenses being mated with that camera. The Soviet stuff is good, but I still miss the fit and finish of a good Japanese or German lens.


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What Soviet stuff do you use? I'm trying to explain on the rangefinder form that Soviet lenses aren't just trash, but the Laicamen don't understand and they got offended when I said I've a Jupiter 12 that performs better than my Summaron on my M3. Also, the story of the Summicron 50 mm dual range being "the sharpest lens ever" is a complete fabrication.

However, today I was in London for a function and when I was free I went to one the most infamous Leica shop where I bought a camera for my 1940 Summarit...I think I'll also procure a collapsible Industar 50 because the Leitz glass glows...because of flares.



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I suppose Canon didn't consider those variations of the 7S noteworthy enough - and the limited production, to identify it separately in their museum.
Looks like the weight and size were in line with cameras of the era - even less than the SLRs. I suppose then that something weighty and substantial made you think you were getting your moneys worth . . .
Yes indeed you're right, but as I was explaining to Steve, the rangefinder people think differently, you notice a lot when you post in both places. I call it "Barnack's course": for them the camera must be as little as possible and as unsophisticated as possible, and in the Canon range a lot of people think the P is the best, not the Vi or the 7. After a while you realise why the Spotmatic killed the rangefinders in the 60s.

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What Soviet stuff do you use? I'm trying to explain on the rangefinder form that Soviet lenses aren't just trash, but the Laicamen don't understand and they got offended when I said I've a Jupiter 12 that performs better than my Summaron on my M3.
I agree about Soviet lenses and the Leicistas' response. If they pay thousands for a Leitz lens and can't see improved performance over that of a Jupiter, they have to rationalize the expense somehow.

I have one Leica lens, the collapsible Summar 50mm f/2, which came attached to my 1936 IIIa--it may be the original lens. I just had the camera and lens CLA'd, and the Summar is a lot clearer now, but it's not coated, so I don't expect super imaging from it even after cleaning and polishing. If I were to buy another $250-$300 lens, it wouldn't be a Summar.

For most photography with the camera I use an Industar 61 (50/2.8) and a Jupiter 12 (35/2). If I get another lens to use on the Leica, it will probably be a Jupiter 8.
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