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04-29-2015, 06:45 AM   #2806
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QuoteOriginally posted by AroundTokyo Quote
I love looking at these film cameras, but I would doubt my ability to be able to use one!
I think film cameras are easier to use than digital cameras are. But, that's just me.

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QuoteOriginally posted by AroundTokyo Quote
I love looking at these film cameras, but I would doubt my ability to be able to use one!
The EXIF on your Tokyo Moonrise photo shows you used manual mode. If so then there is no reason you could not have made the same exposure on film. Very nice picture BTW.
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Tokyo Moonrise ... That is a real nice picture.
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All of these are X-posted from other threads, but Jean Poitier is the only name I recognize off-hand as participants on this thread so others may be interested in this gear. All photographed in a history-of-photography exhibit in a science & technology museum in Berlin.
1) Contax rangefinder with a Zeiss stereo attachment;
2) A similar stereo attachment on an Exacta fitted with a binocular screen viewer that I guess provides stereo when viewing;
3) A classic monster studio view camera intended for formal portraiture; probably 11X14 format;
4) Sinar Digital P3 - wonder how many of these were made/sold, but don't want to know the price;
5) Miscellaneous spy cameras - I especially like the cigarette lighter unit. (bad lighting = poor IQ for this image).


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Some lenses at the Berlin science & technology museum.
1) Astro-Technar 150mm f1.8 with reflex housing for attachment to a rangefinder camera - notice the high lever over the shutter release for lifting the mirror before tripping the shutter;
2) Cutaway of a Leitz Tri-Elmar 28-35-50mm - I found the complex mechanics of this lens especially intriguing;
3) Vario-Sonnar 85-200mm f4.0, a beast of a zoom, enormously expensive - small wonder the Contarex was never a great seller;
4) A monster of a reflex lens, as I recall, 1000mm f5.6 - notice the little focusing wheel on the back adjacent to the camera, and also the spring-wound auto-film advance base plate on the Praktina (it had a reputation for ripping the film if you tried to use it past the end of a roll.

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QuoteOriginally posted by WPRESTO Quote
Some lenses at the Berlin science & technology museum.
1) Astro-Technar 150mm f1.8 with reflex housing for attachment to a rangefinder camera - notice the high lever over the shutter release for lifting the mirror before tripping the shutter;
2) Cutaway of a Leitz Tri-Elmar 28-35-50mm - I found the complex mechanics of this lens especially intriguing;
3) Vario-Sonnar 85-200mm f4.0, a beast of a zoom, enormously expensive - small wonder the Contarex was never a great seller;
4) A monster of a reflex lens, as I recall, 1000mm f5.6 - notice the little focusing wheel on the back adjacent to the camera, and also the spring-wound auto-film advance base plate on the Praktina (it had a reputation for ripping the film if you tried to use it past the end of a roll.
Some fascinating exhibits. Thanks for posting them. K.
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For those interested in or at least fascinated by the Sinar P3 designed for digital photography, as best I can determine, the camera body without lens or back is roughly $7000 (US $). A Hasselblad digital back can be attached ($15,000 to $33,000, depending on MP - 40 to 80mp available). A lens can be had for as little as $1200 but for a digitally-optimized lens with a large enough image circle to take advantage of all those geared movements you'll have to dish out $4400 to $7000. So the basic camera + a 60mp back + a lower end large image circle lens, plus the adapter to fit the Hasselblad back, and a slider to move it laterally so you can focus on the screen, and oh yes, a screen magnifier ($1,000 from Sinar) will set you back a bit over $40,000. If you want a polarizing filter, Sinar offers one for about $700. Are they still on the same planet?
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QuoteOriginally posted by LesDMess Quote
The EXIF on your Tokyo Moonrise photo shows you used manual mode. If so then there is no reason you could not have made the same exposure on film. Very nice picture BTW.
Thanks kindly for the comment. But how to meter? Select a focus point? Do HD? I doubt my brain could adapt to these things! Like, most of the stuff is manual, right?

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That reflex lens might be the 1000mm version of the Heinz Kilfitt Sport Reflectar. I have the 500mm version, which has a similar overall look, and I know there was a 1000mm 5.6 version made.

QuoteOriginally posted by WPRESTO Quote
Some lenses at the Berlin science & technology museum.
1) Astro-Technar 150mm f1.8 with reflex housing for attachment to a rangefinder camera - notice the high lever over the shutter release for lifting the mirror before tripping the shutter;
2) Cutaway of a Leitz Tri-Elmar 28-35-50mm - I found the complex mechanics of this lens especially intriguing;
3) Vario-Sonnar 85-200mm f4.0, a beast of a zoom, enormously expensive - small wonder the Contarex was never a great seller;
4) A monster of a reflex lens, as I recall, 1000mm f5.6 - notice the little focusing wheel on the back adjacent to the camera, and also the spring-wound auto-film advance base plate on the Praktina (it had a reputation for ripping the film if you tried to use it past the end of a roll.
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QuoteOriginally posted by dcshooter Quote
That reflex lens might be the 1000mm version of the Heinz Kilfitt Sport Reflectar. I have the 500mm version, which has a similar overall look, and I know there was a 1000mm 5.6 version made.
Thanks for comment. Think I wrote down more specifics on the lens, but where did I put them?? For other equipment in the exhibit I had wits enough to photograph a label.
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QuoteOriginally posted by AroundTokyo Quote
Thanks kindly for the comment. But how to meter? Select a focus point? Do HD? I doubt my brain could adapt to these things! Like, most of the stuff is manual, right?
You will need to learn how to meter as each have their own idiosyncrasies (patterns) but negative film has such a wide latitude - especially on the overexposure side, that you only need to be in the ballpark.
Manual focusing is of course much easier given the huge and bright viewfinders. I am fairly renewed into manual cameras coming from the latest and greatest but got used to manual focusing quickly. Great for me as I like to take night shots myself.
You can do HD on film too of course. As a matter of fact, this picture below was three scans of the same frame of Kodak Ektar 100 film combined into 1.

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Finally the beast has arrived...Canon F-1, May 1977, near mint conditions..then when I placed the battery inside I realised why, the lightmeter is gone.

Nevertheless it's the most imposing cameras I've ever handled, with the 55 mm f.12 S.S.C. we are in the 1.3 kg range, a real heavyweight, nothing handles like that, it even dwarves its successor, the F-1N, that looks nimble and puny in comparison to its antecessor.
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Here are a couple of my non-Pentax film cameras - a Yashica rangefinder and a Praktica SLR (with a very nice Vivitar 35/2.8). The Praktica I bought a couple of years ago but didn't load it with film until last Autumn. It still has that first roll of Fomapan 100 in it. The Yashica has had a roll of film through it and works fine. Both light meters are messed up.


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QuoteOriginally posted by Cuthbert Quote
Finally the beast has arrived...Canon F-1, May 1977, near mint conditions..then when I placed the battery inside I realised why, the lightmeter is gone.

Nevertheless it's the most imposing cameras I've ever handled, with the 55 mm f.12 S.S.C. we are in the 1.3 kg range, a real heavyweight, nothing handles like that, it even dwarves its successor, the F-1N, that looks nimble and puny in comparison to its antecessor.
Titans for sure and excellent representatives of their era!

Too bad about the meter although I wouldn't be uncomfortable with shooting it without a meter in daylight.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Jonathan Mac Quote
Here are a couple of my non-Pentax film cameras - a Yashica rangefinder and a Praktica SLR (with a very nice Vivitar 35/2.8). The Praktica I bought a couple of years ago but didn't load it with film until last Autumn. It still has that first roll of Fomapan 100 in it. The Yashica has had a roll of film through it and works fine. Both light meters are messed up.
Too bad about the meter but those are really tidy looking!

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QuoteOriginally posted by WPRESTO Quote
Some lenses at the Berlin science & technology museum.
1) Astro-Technar 150mm f1.8 with reflex housing for attachment to a rangefinder camera - notice the high lever over the shutter release for lifting the mirror before tripping the shutter;
2) Cutaway of a Leitz Tri-Elmar 28-35-50mm - I found the complex mechanics of this lens especially intriguing;
3) Vario-Sonnar 85-200mm f4.0, a beast of a zoom, enormously expensive - small wonder the Contarex was never a great seller;
4) A monster of a reflex lens, as I recall, 1000mm f5.6 - notice the little focusing wheel on the back adjacent to the camera, and also the spring-wound auto-film advance base plate on the Praktina (it had a reputation for ripping the film if you tried to use it past the end of a roll.
Thanks for sharing. At a PMA show, I got to try a couple of the multi tens of thousand $$$ lenses where you put the camera on the lens and not the other way around that I was used to.

With my first manual focus camera - a Minolta Hi-Matic 9, I ripped the film without even trying hard which was a complete surprise to me.
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QuoteOriginally posted by LesDMess Quote
Titans for sure and excellent representatives of their era!

Too bad about the meter although I wouldn't be uncomfortable with shooting it without a meter in daylight.[COLOR="Silver"]
Yesterday night I started to clean the battery compartment and I re-awoke the lightmeter of the old dinosaur.



Today I went out to shoot a test film and really, I can't imagine how the pros of that era could go in jungle in Vietnam for hours with these cameras at the neck, I assume I need to find a wider strap, however it really feels...quality...even more than a Nikon F2 and a LX.

A special thanks to Michael "Cooltouch" for all the useful info on the Canon FDs, he's the real expert of the board on the matter.

BTW, today I received the last piece of the FD puzzle: after Godzilla the Terminator model T90, aka as the camera from the Future who travelled back in time to change history of SLRs. I'm still studying the substantial literature the T90 came with (brochure, owner's manual and Huenecke's book) and my brain is alreay on fire...I can't forget Godzilla's simplicity: level needle, circle...needle in the middle of the circle. This is what you have to do, ALL you have to do!

Pictures of the Terminator tomorrow.

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