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10-04-2015, 10:19 PM   #3451
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QuoteOriginally posted by chickentender Quote
One of these days soon, I'm going to have to drag all my cameras out and do a full 'family reunion portrait' of sorts.
I'm a little afraid.
Even my 15mm wouldn't be wide enough in my case. When I croak, they will curse me for leaving them to get rid of all the gear. I just can't resist some of these classics.

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QuoteOriginally posted by chickentender Quote
One of these days soon, I'm going to have to drag all my cameras out and do a full 'family reunion portrait' of sorts.
I'm a little afraid.
LOL, I JUST found my long lost micro 110 camera I have been searching for the last few years.

Now I can finally do a 110 family portrait.

I am fairly certain that I don't have a table large enough to do a full family portrait, although I just got an idea that might let me do that trick.
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Well, the Bessa R3M came on Thursday and the lens (Nokton 40/1.4) came over the weekend. The camera is not particularly photogenic, but I did manage a fruitful low-key session...




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Another low-key image of the Bessa R3M...


On the Dial 2 - 4 - 8




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QuoteOriginally posted by stevebrot Quote
Another low-key image of the Bessa R3M...


On the Dial 2 - 4 - 8




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Me likey. Mine should be here any day. (No Nokton for me though... just an LTM to M adapter )

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QuoteOriginally posted by 45 Mike Quote
LOL, I JUST found my long lost micro 110 camera I have been searching for the last few years.

Now I can finally do a 110 family portrait.

I am fairly certain that I don't have a table large enough to do a full family portrait, although I just got an idea that might let me do that trick.
We'll be waiting.

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QuoteOriginally posted by arnold Quote
Even my 15mm wouldn't be wide enough in my case. When I croak, they will curse me for leaving them to get rid of all the gear. I just can't resist some of these classics.
I think I can help - I'll PM you my mailing address to pass on to your next-of-kin... We don't want to put them out after all.
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QuoteOriginally posted by chickentender Quote
Me likey. Mine should be here any day. (No Nokton for me though... just an LTM to M adapter )
I will be interested in reading your thoughts regarding handling. I took mine out shooting today and am not falling in love with the controls. The issue might be with the Nokton...it is virtually a pancake and pretty cramped. My LTM → M adapter is going to be here sometime this week so perhaps the J-8 will feel more familiar.


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QuoteOriginally posted by arnold Quote
I have to stop this. My third Nikkormat, this one bought for the lens, delivered for C$101. My other two are mint like silver. This black one not quite that standard. The lens made 1974-77
Nice find!

Phil.

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QuoteOriginally posted by stevebrot Quote
Another low-key image of the Bessa R3M...


On the Dial 2 - 4 - 8




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Beautiful! Enjoy it!

Phil.

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QuoteOriginally posted by arnold Quote
When I croak, they will curse me for leaving them to get rid of all the gear. I just can't resist some of these classics.
I'm in the same boat!

Phil.
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QuoteOriginally posted by chickentender Quote
One of these days soon, I'm going to have to drag all my cameras out and do a full 'family reunion portrait' of sorts.
I'm a little afraid.
Hell, I'm wondering how far back you will have to stand to get them all in the shot.
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Hell, I'm wondering how far back you will have to stand to get them all in the shot.
I'm not in the same I-need-to-reserve-a-gymnasium boat as some folks around here, but my 20mm is gonna have challenge.
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I pared back but am considering a Petri Color 35, anyone here own one? I almost bought one a few years ago and they are pretty snazzy little guys.
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QuoteOriginally posted by stevebrot Quote
I will be interested in reading your thoughts regarding handling. I took mine out shooting today and am not falling in love with the controls. The issue might be with the Nokton...it is virtually a pancake and pretty cramped. My LTM → M adapter is going to be here sometime this week so perhaps the J-8 will feel more familiar.

Steve
*Very* initial impressions. Has more heft/weight than I imagined but slightly smaller as well. Overall feels good, very solid, in the hand - not at all plastic-ey. Slightly scrappy in operation - genuinely reminds me of my MX in this way... doesn't have the smooth refinement of some cameras (LX). Feels (again, like the MX) like a boxer, not a martial artist. Mine has a slight fiddliness to the film-door in that it doesn't *quite* seat perfectly but certainly is not loose or rattly.

Have just the Industar-61 mounted on at the moment and I may need to send back the Fotodiox LTM-->M adapter as the tiny indent meant lock it in the mount is *just* shy of being large enough for the tab-latch on the Bessa body to fit in and work properly. A tiny bit of filing may just do the trick.

The RF patch is VERY picky about your eye's angle of view, e.g. if you are slighlty off-center from the finder it practically disappears - this will take some getting used to particularly because I find that I need to angle my gaze just slightly downward to get a good/sharp read on the exposure indication lights at the bottom of the finder. When I'm straight on I see them, just not clearly. I'm sure as I adjust to where the indicators are and their spacing relative to one another it won't really matter if they're dim/blurred (in fact possibly beneficial, less distracting). Frame lines are clear and not distracting. Viewfinder overall.... IT IS BRIGHT AND WONDERFUL. This is practically worth the price of admission. Honestly I was not sure if I'd keep this camera but now in the first hour I'm leaning toward "yes, keep". I adore shooting with a 50mm on the MX, KX, LX variety with that lovely 1:1 both-eyes-open shooting. This replicates that at any focal length used.

I like the feel of the advance lever - again, scrappy and utilitarian but not sloppy whatsoever. I like the feel of the shutter speed dial - not loose, not stiff. The latching/rewind controls seems a little odd to me but again, likely get used to them.

This is my 5 minute review following 30-45 minutes of initial playtime.... aka, don't give it much thought.
Overall I like it quite a bit thus far. Just loaded some Provia into it. Will have a go in the next few days.


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QuoteOriginally posted by chickentender Quote
Mine has a slight fiddliness to the film-door in that it doesn't *quite* seat perfectly but certainly is not loose or rattly.
Mine is the same. The lower left of the film door is sprung out a little, though with film loaded the "play" disappears.

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I may need to send back the Fotodiox LTM-->M adapter as the tiny indent meant lock it in the mount is *just* shy of being large enough for the tab-latch on the Bessa body to fit in and work properly.
Hmmmm...I have not gotten my Fotodiox LTM --> M adapter yet. I would not expect that sort of problem. The tab dimensions should be standard to the mount.

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The RF patch is VERY picky about your eye's angle of view, e.g. if you are slighlty off-center from the finder it practically disappears
I have not had the problem, but I tend to press my eye pretty close. What I have noticed is that I will probably need a +1 diopter.

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I like the feel of the advance lever - again, scrappy and utilitarian but not sloppy whatsoever.
I was a bit put off with the lever feel with the camera empty, but with film tension it comes into its own. The action is cam'ed such that the action is fast and easy even with a short throw. The ratchet works well too.

I have yet to figure out where the shutter release is. I keep trying to push down the shutter dial (long fingers) My FED-2 has very similar dimensions (yes the Bessa is THAT small), but with the FED things fall right to hand. Find the aperture tabs and focus tab on the Nokton 40/1.4 is also a challenge. I have found that folding my left index finger back and using the first knuckle to engage the focus tab (thumb braced against the camera left side works well. I don't even try adjusting the aperture on the fly...too hard to find the pair of aperture tabs. They are prominent enough, just harder to find than a knurled ring.

BTW, that "Zebra" I-61 looks pretty sweet on the Bessa. Did it come with your FED or did you buy it separately? Edit: I just noticed, it is the same lens as in your earlier photo, just looking shinier.


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QuoteOriginally posted by stevebrot Quote
Mine is the same. The lower left of the film door is sprung out a little, though with film loaded the "play" disappears.
Same - after loading film it doesn't concern me.

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Hmmmm...I have not gotten my Fotodiox LTM --> M adapter yet. I would not expect that sort of problem. The tab dimensions should be standard to the mount.
Strangely (or perhaps not) this has ceased to be a problem. After mounting/dismounting lenses a few times it now seems to seat and properly each time. So that's good.

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I was a bit put off with the lever feel with the camera empty, but with film tension it comes into its own. The action is cam'ed such that the action is fast and easy even with a short throw. The ratchet works well too.
Very much agreed. Now that I've film loaded it feels far, far nicer. VERY quick with just the right amount of resistance to me.

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I have yet to figure out where the shutter release is. I keep trying to push down the shutter dial (long fingers) My FED-2 has very similar dimensions (yes the Bessa is THAT small), but with the FED things fall right to hand. Find the aperture tabs and focus tab on the Nokton 40/1.4 is also a challenge. I have found that folding my left index finger back and using the first knuckle to engage the focus tab (thumb braced against the camera left side works well. I don't even try adjusting the aperture on the fly...too hard to find the pair of aperture tabs. They are prominent enough, just harder to find than a knurled ring.
Can't help you there - I've only lenses that I have at least a couple weeks using to deal with, but that Nokton sure sounds nice. Of my two 50s I do prefer the Jupiter-8 slightly due to the focus ring being placed further forward than the Industar. I find the top panel controls completely natural actually - they rather match the MX/LX configuration. I've admittedly searched with my finger in vain for the shutter button lock.

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BTW, that "Zebra" I-61 looks pretty sweet on the Bessa. Did it come with your FED or did you buy it separately? Edit: I just noticed, it is the same lens as in your earlier photo, just looking shinier.
Yup - same one - You noticed my buffing? It really is purdy on on the bessa, but I've a late model black Jupiter nearly here that is going to live on the body for the most part. I DO wish the J12 would be possible.
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Why are you doing this to me??? I am fighting very hard to keep using SLR for my 35mm asignments, but since I got a Leica M3, I fell in love with rangefinder and seems the way to go... but that means I have to leave my OM3 and the LX at home, and a Leica is to expensive, so the Bessa is a very good option... I don't know how much I will be able to resist....
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