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10-18-2015, 11:51 AM   #3556
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The lens engraving is reversed?

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QuoteOriginally posted by wtlwdwgn Quote
The lens engraving is reversed?
No, it is correct, though the characters are not Latin script.


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Gelios 103 ...

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Anyone see what is strange about this photo?




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Contax/Kiev mount lens on M mount camera.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Jean Poitiers Quote
Gelios 103 ...
Yes...that is the lens. It is an Arsenal Helios-103 53/1.8 (aka Gelios) in Contax/Kiev mount.

I am so unfair. This one would only be obvious to people who are familiar with a wide range of interchangeable lens rangefinder cameras. Familiarity with FSU stuff helps too. The camera is my new Bessa R3M, which uses the Leica M mount. The lens was only made in Contax/Kiev mount and was originally sold as kit with Kiev 4M and 4AM bodies.

What is unusual is that the Helios is mounted to the Bessa. The two systems generally do not mix, for multiple reasons. People who are familiar with either system will scratch their heads at the appearance of what looks to be a Contax mount complete with both inner and outer bayonet on a Leica M mount camera. That mount face belongs to the fairly unusual Amedeo adapter which provides full rangefinder coupling for both internal and external bayonet Contax-mount lenses.


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QuoteOriginally posted by Swift1 Quote
Contax/Kiev mount lens on M mount camera.
Colton takes the prize. I will e-mail him the trophy.


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QuoteOriginally posted by stevebrot Quote
That mount face belongs to the fairly unusual Amedeo adapter which provides full rangefinder coupling for both internal and external bayonet Contax-mount lenses.
There are some dimensional issues with some lenses. A fairly comprehensive list may be found on the Rangefinder Forum Web site:

Compatibility of Nikon-S / old Contax lenses mounted on M-mount bodies using an Amede - Rangefinderforum.com


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10-18-2015, 01:30 PM   #3563
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You are getting warm, though I don't see anything Russian in this photo.
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How'd ya do that???? I wanna know (and yes, I see the strange... but I'll keep quiet before mounting an answer.) :-}

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How'd ya do that???? I wanna know (and yes, I see the strange... but I'll keep quiet before mounting an answer.) :-}
Too late...Colton beat you to it.
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Aw crap. I was too late - didn't read all the way.

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Too late...Colton beat you to it.
Hahahah - yeah that.
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Too late...Colton beat you to it.
Kolton is King ...
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QuoteOriginally posted by stevebrot Quote
Too late...Colton beat you to it.
I was too busy watching the Seahawks.
Steve - how does it handle/feel? I want one. That Helios is among my current favorites by a nautical mile.

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QuoteOriginally posted by chickentender Quote
I was too busy watching the Seahawks.
Steve - how does it handle/feel? I want one. That Helios is among my current favorites by a nautical mile.
If you are ever looking for in a M42 and the "44" series, drop me a PM ... I have a drawer full of double/triple copies ...
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QuoteOriginally posted by Jean Poitiers Quote
If you are ever looking for in a M42 and the "44" series, drop me a PM ... I have a drawer full of double/triple copies ...
I have looked at them a few times, but on PK ( I have no screw mount Pentax bodies) I have a ton of coverage in that length. But thanks - might take you up.

I'm interested in that Amedeo adapter.
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QuoteOriginally posted by chickentender Quote
Steve - how does it handle/feel? I want one. That Helios is among my current favorites by a nautical mile.
It handles and feels much the same as if it were mounted to a Contax or Kiev. The focus direction is the same, as is the stand-off from the body.

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If you are ever looking for in a M42 and the "44" series, drop me a PM ... I have a drawer full of double/triple copies ...
Wrong Helios. There is a good discussion regarding the Helios-103, its relation to the Biotar/Helios-44, and its relation to the 1979 Summicron 50/2 on the Manual Lens Forum Web site:

Russian Summicron?

Here are three diagrams taken from that thread:

Helios-103 53/1.8




Biotar 58/2




Summicron-M 50/2 (1979 version)




Yes, the Helios-103 does resemble the Leitz product. I am thinking that an image search on Flickr might be in order.


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