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02-06-2016, 08:53 AM   #3961
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Heh heh heh, good old "Kevin Scam-era."

I've got to credit him for taking the psychological phenomenon of "more expensive must equal better quality" to its logical extreme. I once saw him trying to sell a Super Tak 50mm f/1.4 for over $500. Granted, it was 8 element, but that is still more than double what it should have been listed for. Some stuff he has listed is at over 10x retail value.

If you are interested in selling the Angenieux or using it yourself on your Pentax, you can send it to me - it might be an interesting K mount conversion project now that the original mount has been hacked up. It is a legendary lens. too bad about all the scratches on the front element.

QuoteOriginally posted by Jean Poitiers Quote
Thanks W. Appreciated.

I had already "eBay-ed" this Angénieux plus looked at similar copies on "Kevin Camera".

Not quite sure what to do next with this lens.


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QuoteOriginally posted by dcshooter Quote
Heh heh heh, good old "Kevin Scam-era." ...
Yeah ... he's VERY proud of his things for sale.

I was looking at his site for the basic lens images and to see the mount(s) ... J
02-06-2016, 03:06 PM   #3963
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I have been looking for this camera for some time. Less than $25, I am a happy guy!
Zeiss Ikonta model 521A 6x4.5cm on 120 roll film



75mm Novar, f:3.5 In a fully functioning Prontor SVS


Speeds bulb to 300th, and aperture to 32


Single window film counter!




Fit and finish is excellent, for a user camera.


I have every intention of using it. :-)
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I've been slowly paring down my film body collection for a while, running One Last Roll through many of them before putting them up for sale or giving them away. But the little-regarded ZX-30, when its turn came, unexpectedly grabbed my attention and affection. I believe it's my only film body that fully (i.e. the four basic shooting modes) supports modern lenses without aperture rings, and the eyepiece has diopter correction.

This particular body came to me several years ago for almost no money, and in almost-new condition; still, it has spent a lot of time since then sitting unused. Most recently it's been wearing the DA40XS lens that came with my K-01 digital body.



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RE: KevinCameras - he sells to collectors who are willing to overpay to fill a gap / get a hard-to-find item. I've never done it (though I was once close on the hood for a K24/3.5) but I know members here have bought from there.

Right now his K50/1.2 prices aren't that bad, but if the rest of his inventory is 100% overpriced I've still doubled my money. Crazy!

I refused to look at the K18's.

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02-06-2016, 05:15 PM   #3966
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QuoteOriginally posted by 45 Mike Quote
I have been looking for this camera for some time. Less than $25, I am a happy guy!
Zeiss Ikonta model 521A 6x4.5cm on 120 roll film
For a very short time about 1962 I had a very similar-looking Zeiss folder but it was 21/4 square on 120 film. Sadly, the negatives had flare in one area because of one or more pinholes at the folds in the bellows, and at that time it was almost impossible to track down someplace that could/would replace the bellows.
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QuoteOriginally posted by WPRESTO Quote
For a very short time about 1962 I had a very similar-looking Zeiss folder but it was 21/4 square on 120 film. Sadly, the negatives had flare in one area because of one or more pinholes at the folds in the bellows, and at that time it was almost impossible to track down someplace that could/would replace the bellows.
I did not find any bellows holes, and I have a roll of B&W in it at this time, for testing.
I really like my Zenobia, now I just need to decide which one will run color film, and which will be B&W.


I like my TLR bodies for 6x6 shots. My 6x9 folders are scale focus also, I do pretty well with those.
I noticed that this prontor shutter has a DOF scale on it. Which really helps with the scale focus shooting.
And unlike the 520/A that i gave my niece, it has a PC sync nipple!
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QuoteOriginally posted by dcshooter Quote
Heh heh heh, good old "Kevin Scam-era."

I've got to credit him for taking the psychological phenomenon of "more expensive must equal better quality" to its logical extreme. I once saw him trying to sell a Super Tak 50mm f/1.4 for over $500. Granted, it was 8 element, but that is still more than double what it should have been listed for. Some stuff he has listed is at over 10x retail value.

If you are interested in selling the Angenieux or using it yourself on your Pentax, you can send it to me - it might be an interesting K mount conversion project now that the original mount has been hacked up. It is a legendary lens. too bad about all the scratches on the front element.

Yes there are some scratches, but at the same time the linked article below had some eye opening information on front surface damage for me.

http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2008/10/front-element-scratches

I'm not associated with them, blah blah blah. I did manage do to some very visible damage (chips) to a front element on a sigma 28-200 and found their article to be pretty accurate as regards my experience with my lens.

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QuoteOriginally posted by 45 Mike Quote
I have been looking for this camera for some time. Less than $25, I am a happy guy!
Zeiss Ikonta model 521A 6x4.5cm on 120 roll film

75mm Novar, f:3.5 In a fully functioning Prontor SVS

Speeds bulb to 300th, and aperture to 32

Single window film counter!

Fit and finish is excellent, for a user camera.

I have every intention of using it. :-)
Nice find. I've been on the look-out for a 645 folder for a while as a small-as-possible medium format camera for travelling. Last summer I took my 6x6 Franka Solida III on holiday to the US and it did well but something more compact would have been nice.

QuoteOriginally posted by Sluggo Quote
I've been slowly paring down my film body collection for a while, running One Last Roll through many of them before putting them up for sale or giving them away. But the little-regarded ZX-30, when its turn came, unexpectedly grabbed my attention and affection. I believe it's my only film body that fully (i.e. the four basic shooting modes) supports modern lenses without aperture rings, and the eyepiece has diopter correction.

This particular body came to me several years ago for almost no money, and in almost-new condition; still, it has spent a lot of time since then sitting unused. Most recently it's been wearing the DA40XS lens that came with my K-01 digital body.
You've reminded me that I have an MZ-30 sitting in my cupboard that hasn't been tested yet. The bottom of the mirror box has a hole in it but the camera seems to work fine (not sure if that hole will let any light in though...). I like the feel of that camera. It's known for a failure in a plastic cog in the mirror mechanism but externally the build quality feels just as good (or rather, bad) as my MZ-5Ns.

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Yes there are some scratches, but at the same time the linked article below had some eye opening information on front surface damage for me.

LensRentals.com - Front Element Scratches

I'm not associated with them, blah blah blah. I did manage do to some very visible damage (chips) to a front element on a sigma 28-200 and found their article to be pretty accurate as regards my experience with my lens.
Front element damage is not a major problem. I believe it can increase flare and decrease contrast but I've never seen that in practice. It's rear-element damage you have to watch out for.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Jonathan Mac Quote
Last summer I took my 6x6 Franka Solida III on holiday to the US and it did well but something more compact would have been nice.
Roll film folders were once sold by Old-Yellow as "Pocket Kodaks." My father used to complain than men's coats, overcoats in particular, no longer had proper pockets, deep sacks large enough to easily swallow a folded newspaper. He selected my first such overcoat, and it did have pockets large enough to accommodate my first camera with variable aperture and shutter speeds - - his hand-me-down Kodak 616 "Pocket Kodak." When I started using a Super Ikonta C, also a hand-me-down, the camera seemed delightfully petite.
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QuoteOriginally posted by monochrome Quote
I was once close on the hood for a K24/3.5
I think I bought that hood many years ago, payed around $75.00 I believe??

About a month later I found two of those same hoods at a camera store in Austria and snapped them up as well. Don't think I've come across any of the 58mm wide angle hoods since, pretty hard to find.

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Yeah, I am well aware of the practical effects of scratches.

It's the valuation effects I am referring to. With a lens as rare as this one, we are talking several hundreds or even thousands of dollars difference in valuation. This is a lens that is worth up to 3 grand with clean glass. With the scratches and mount surgery on this one, it's worth probably less than a third of that. Still a great score, though.

QuoteOriginally posted by ambaker Quote
Yes there are some scratches, but at the same time the linked article below had some eye opening information on front surface damage for me.

LensRentals.com - Front Element Scratches

I'm not associated with them, blah blah blah. I did manage do to some very visible damage (chips) to a front element on a sigma 28-200 and found their article to be pretty accurate as regards my experience with my lens.
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QuoteOriginally posted by dcshooter Quote
Yeah, I am well aware of the practical effects of scratches.

It's the valuation effects I am referring to. With a lens as rare as this one, we are talking several hundreds or even thousands of dollars difference in valuation. This is a lens that is worth up to 3 grand with clean glass. With the scratches and mount surgery on this one, it's worth probably less than a third of that. Still a great score, though.
3 grand? There was one on EBAY offered at over $9500. That's an entire Pentax outfit, with all the good stuff, and extras, and ....
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Lots of people (Kevin Scamera, for example) offer items on ebay for waaaaaay more than they are worth.

Actual completed sales show prices between 1500 and 3000 for exakta mount samples of this lens.

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3 grand? There was one on EBAY offered at over $9500. That's an entire Pentax outfit, with all the good stuff, and extras, and ....
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QuoteOriginally posted by gofour3 Quote
I think I bought that hood many years ago, payed around $75.00 I believe??

About a month later I found two of those same hoods at a camera store in Austria and snapped them up as well. Don't think I've come across any of the 58mm wide angle hoods since, pretty hard to find.

Phil.
I actually found the clamp-on Takumar hood on ebay later - about the same price. That K24/3.5 and matching hood were sold locally for what I thought at the time was a crazy amount of money ($475) and bought the K24/2.8 and hood and a K105/2.8 with the proceeds.

They're on my regret list even though it was a good trade.
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