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05-13-2016, 04:16 AM   #4186
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QuoteOriginally posted by edmundrt Quote
Here's mine: Yashica-A. Takes lovely photos - there's something about triplet lenses that does it for me. Also worth mentioning is the Lubitel-2, which is a much smaller and lighter package, and gives much nicer results than its humble nature would suggest.
Some of my favourite photos were taken with my Lubitel 2. Huge guess-work involved in focussing etc., but I rather like the slightly random element involved in using it.

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I'd never heard of a Beautyflex. Entertaining choice of name! One day I'll treat myself to a Rolleiflex but it is hard to justify, really. I have a Yashicamat 124G and rarely use it.
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Funny thing and complicated story ... so, the Rolleiflex came from my now-ex-wife's family. Upon the divorce, her father very kindly said I should keep it, since I'm the only one among anyone they know who would actually use it. Fast forward a couple of years ... I have a girlfriend and she is now getting into film photography because of me (!!!). She wanted to try a TLR, but was both afraid of the Rolleiflex (for fear of breaking/misusing it, as it is somewhat valuable) and I think she also didn't like its origin much. So I was forming an idea to get her a TLR of her own -- a knockabout, affordable one, maybe a Ricohflex or Yashica. Now the funny part: Last summer, in a Victoria's Secret catalog that came in our mail, she saw a Beautyflex used as a prop in a picture -- being held by one of the busty babes in naughty knickers. She immediately said she wanted one of those cameras, because of its name! (As she likes to be a bit glamorous.) I didn't like the rationale much, but if it meant she would have a TLR that she was really keen on, that worked for me. After trawling eBay for a few months, I found a suitable one, and in fact I like it well enough that I invested in a CLA for it. (It arrived with all shutter speed settings yielding the same speed, about 1/60; now they all run properly.) I'm in it about US$200 altogether now, so yes I realize that with patience I could have had a Rolleicord for less; these are the things we do for our significant others.

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I had heard of a Beautyflex before, but I can't recall why. Perhaps because it was rebadged for other brands occasionally? (Or am I thinking of another TLR?)
Yes, as Wardflex at least (for US retailer Montgomery Ward) and I'm not sure what else. I have not found an instruction book for exactly this model of Beautyflex, but have found one for a Wardflex that appears to be precisely it (other than the nameplate).

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Your Beautyflex is probably very similar to my Toyocaflex.
Different shutters. Does your Beautyflex have a Tri-Lausar viewing lens?
Colton, the viewing lens is indeed a Tri-Lausar. This is among the worst lens names ever ... my immediate mental association with it is "three-time loser." It's right up there with Steinheil's Cassar (think: "broken" based on French) or the Lentar (think: "Slow"). And it gets worse: the shutter is a Rectus. They were probably thinking as in "rectilinear" or something, but I'm not sure it has that association. Yes, I have a Tri-Lausar above my Rectus. Beautyflexen alternatively came with "Synchro-MX" shutters (sounds rather generic) or Copal (now there's one we all know).

The taking lens is a Biokor, which I've read is a Tessar-like formula. It's actually good. (First pic from first pre-CLA test roll here: https://flic.kr/p/DBUYP2). The camera has an auto-advance system, more basic than the Rolleiflex's but serviceable. For a first-time TLR user, I thought it would simplify things to avoid futzing with a red window system.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Argenticien Quote


Colton, the viewing lens is indeed a Tri-Lausar. This is among the worst lens names ever ... my immediate mental association with it is "three-time loser." It's right up there with Steinheil's Cassar (think: "broken" based on French) or the Lentar (think: "Slow"). And it gets worse: the shutter is a Rectus. They were probably thinking as in "rectilinear" or something, but I'm not sure it has that association. Yes, I have a Tri-Lausar above my Rectus. Beautyflexen alternatively came with "Synchro-MX" shutters (sounds rather generic) or Copal (now there's one we all know).

The taking lens is a Biokor, which I've read is a Tessar-like formula. It's actually good. (First pic from first pre-CLA test roll here: https://flic.kr/p/DBUYP2). The camera has an auto-advance system, more basic than the Rolleiflex's but serviceable. For a first-time TLR user, I thought it would simplify things to avoid futzing with a red window system.

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Is there anyway you could check if the Biokor is a 4 element design or a triplet?
Most of the off brand Japanese TLRs usually had triplets for viewing and taking lenses. My Toyocaflex has Tri-Lausar for both lenses.
Many of the lenses for these Japanese TLRs were made by Tomioka. The Tri-Lausar was definitely made by Tomioka, but I can't find much info on the Biokor.
My Toyocaflex also has the auto stop film advance with automatic frame counter. I would guess it operates the same as your Beautyflex. Does yours have a advance lock release button located at the center of the advance knob?
FWIW, the Tri-Lausar is a very good lens.


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Showing off my cool used Kodak Retina IIa. It is the less common version with a Rodenstock Heligon 50mm f2 lens





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My current take away kit:

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QuoteOriginally posted by Swift1 Quote
Is there anyway you could check if the Biokor is a 4 element design or a triplet?
Most of the off brand Japanese TLRs usually had triplets for viewing and taking lenses. My Toyocaflex has Tri-Lausar for both lenses.
Many of the lenses for these Japanese TLRs were made by Tomioka. The Tri-Lausar was definitely made by Tomioka, but I can't find much info on the Biokor.
My Toyocaflex also has the auto stop film advance with automatic frame counter. I would guess it operates the same as your Beautyflex. Does yours have a advance lock release button located at the center of the advance knob?
FWIW, the Tri-Lausar is a very good lens.
Very interesting, Colton; these similarities are awfully fishy. The Beautyflex indeed has the advance lock button in the film wind knob. Meanwhile: I thought I had read somewhere online that the Biokor was a Tessar forumula, but if so, I can no longer find wherever that was. So I tried doing the "count the light reflections" test, with the shutter held open on Bulb setting, to figure out whether the Biokor is a triplet or four elements. I could only readily see three reflections, but read this fascinating piece from the eminent Rick Oleson: that fourth reflection can be hard to find. In fact when I tried the same on my Rolleiflex with Planar, I saw four, when there should be, I think, five. (It's a 2.8E, so Planars hadn't gone to six yet if I've got that right.) Now I don't know what to think!

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QuoteOriginally posted by Cuthbert Quote
My current take away kit:
That's a nice kit, I wouldn't mind taking it away from you (especially the K50/1.2 and the LX).

My usual kit looks quite similar but, alas, it will never fit on a K-1:

(Before you hang me as a traitor: There is one piece of Pentax gear in there!)



On occasion, I'll swap out the 85 & 200 for this little trinket:
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The hood I assume.

Sometimes I fancy about getting a Minolta XK or XD7, but then I wonder why I should start another system again.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Cuthbert Quote
The hood I assume.
Yes, it fits the MD85/2 very nicely.
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Sometimes I fancy about getting a Minolta XK or XD7, but then I wonder why I should start another system again.
The XK is a heavy beast and it doesn't really have any advantage over your LX. The XD/XD-7/XD-11 has a brilliant shutter priority mode.
There's a nice camera for every mount though (LX, XD-7, OM-4, F3, T90, R5, RX), I think the lenses should be the deciding factor.
If the two systems complement each other, it can make sense but if you end up getting similar lenses for both systems it's rather seems like a waste of money...

If I got my hands on a Canon FD 85/1.2L or 24/1.4L, I'd buy a T90(for the multi-spot metering) in an instant.
If an Olympus 90/2 Macro, 21/2 or 180/2 falls into my lap,it'll be an OM-4 and an LX if I get my hands on an A*85/1.4 or A*135/1.8.

The Minolta system has a lot of nice lenses but none quite as special as the ones mentioned above.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Boris_Akunin Quote
On occasion, I'll swap out the 85 & 200 for this little trinket:
Oooooooh shiny! Did you find that as new-old-stock today and just now open it from the original packaging like a forty-year-old time capsule?!

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QuoteOriginally posted by Argenticien Quote
Oooooooh shiny! Did you find that as new-old-stock today and just now open it from the original packaging like a forty-year-old time capsule?!

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Not quite, but I did find it neatly packed in the original lens case. The Lens by itself (w/o TC & caps) weighs 666g, maybe it's protected by satanic forces...

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QuoteOriginally posted by Boris_Akunin Quote
If I got my hands on a Canon FD 85/1.2L or 24/1.4L, I'd buy a T90(for the multi-spot metering) in an instant.
If an Olympus 90/2 Macro, 21/2 or 180/2 falls into my lap,it'll be an OM-4 and an LX if I get my hands on an A*85/1.4 or A*135/1.8.
Of course I have a T90, but to be honest I found it a camera too difficult to use with too many functions, also it doesn't stand by itself...if I have to suggest a FD body I'd say F-1N.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Boris_Akunin Quote
Not quite, but I did find it beatly packed in the original lens case. The Lens by itself (w/o TC & caps) weighs 666g, maybe it's protected by satanic forces...


Had one of those lenses in M42 for my Spotmatic, but not with the 1:1 unit. It's excellent, competitive with modern macros for resolution, although I don't think it has any ED elements so it may have some color fringing. Like the Tokina 90mm f2.5 (in K-mount) that replaced it, it feels like there's just one solid piece of glass inside.
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My current take away kit:
Beautiful!

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Testing the Yashinon DS-M 50mm f/1.4 which I got attached to this Electro AX. It has no auto/manual switch so on digital I can only use it wide open which isn't a problem as I intend to use it mostly on M42 film bodies anyway. I haven't had a 50/1.4 for M42 since I sold my Tak last year and for €25 (camera included) I'll take a nice fast fifty even if it only gets occasional use. It seems pretty sharp but has some green colour fringing in the out-of-focus areas.

I swapped the Yashinon for the Takumar 35/3.5 to use the new camera as the subject. Taken on my Fujifilm X-M1, a bit of extra contrast and sharpening added in post.


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