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06-14-2016, 03:50 PM   #4291
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QuoteOriginally posted by Cuthbert Quote
Mine is the quietest SLR I have, even quieter than the LX. The mirror is marvelously damped (like the Ftb as well, they have it mounted on two springs).

The T80 is a scary noisy thing with a sort of alarm beep when it nails focus...which is rare.
Maybe they fixed the mirror slap on the F-1n (?) Mine was just an F-1 (MK1)
The T series Canons are VERY ugly cameras. From reading about it, they seem to have trashed the FD T series lenses and started again with EOS. Probably for good reason.

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QuoteOriginally posted by doggy1972 Quote
Maybe they fixed the mirror slap on the F-1n (?) Mine was just an F-1 (MK1)
The T series Canons are VERY ugly cameras. From reading about it, they seem to have trashed the FD T series lenses and started again with EOS. Probably for good reason.
I like the industrial design of the T80 (very sci-fi of the middle 80s, that means Robotech to me) and the organic design of the T90 from Colani, here you can see some of his other work, including the medium format Canon 645 that didn't make to production and the T99, which looks like a combination of the T80 with the T90:

The Bulging, Twisty Future, As Imagined by Designer Luigi Colani

The EOS AF system with the servomotors in the lens instead of in the body appears to be a development of the T80, but they diameter of the mount became much bigger, evidently they needed more electronic connections between body and lens.

The main problem of the T80 is that it's a camera designed for amateurs who wanted to have more automation as possible, there are just five programs, you don't know at what f stop and shutter speed you are shooting...besides that it feels better in the hand than in the pictures. Actually the "skin" feels better than the T90s.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Cuthbert Quote
I like the industrial design of the T80 (very sci-fi of the middle 80s, that means Robotech to me) and the organic design of the T90 from Colani, here you can see some of his other work, including the medium format Canon 645 that didn't make to production and the T99, which looks like a combination of the T80 with the T90:

The Bulging, Twisty Future, As Imagined by Designer Luigi Colani

The EOS AF system with the servomotors in the lens instead of in the body appears to be a development of the T80, but they diameter of the mount became much bigger, evidently they needed more electronic connections between body and lens.

The main problem of the T80 is that it's a camera designed for amateurs who wanted to have more automation as possible, there are just five programs, you don't know at what f stop and shutter speed you are shooting...besides that it feels better in the hand than in the pictures. Actually the "skin" feels better than the T90s.
Not REALLY a big fan of Colani's stuff but, spose that personal taste. TBH, I've never touched a T series so, I can't judge too well. I'm sure you can still take good photos with them even with all that automation. I own some EOS kit and, despite all the plastic, I quite like it. The Elan II is quite a nice full featured camera and dead quiet, to say it has a motor drive (gotta love that eye control hehe) E-TTL as well.

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Sold just recently.



Canon FDn 24mm f/2.8



Tokina 17mm f/3.5

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OM Zuiko 50mm f/1.4

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just a lil cross-processed Sensia200 goodness to feature this strapping fine lad.

pentax mx | m 28/2.8 | fujichrome sensia 200 xpro | pakon f135 scan

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Not bad colours at all for cross-processing. A bit orange-ish, but still fairly recognizable.
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Not bad colours at all for cross-processing. A bit orange-ish, but still fairly recognizable.
For the most part I let the Pakon figure out what it wanted to do - I bump the sliders on some frames but can't really remember which was which. This one has that slight orange like you mention which I think were the original Pakon "interpretation".
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QuoteOriginally posted by Cuthbert Quote
I like the industrial design of the T80 (very sci-fi of the middle 80s, that means Robotech to me) and the organic design of the T90 from Colani, here you can see some of his other work, including the medium format Canon 645 that didn't make to production and the T99, which looks like a combination of the T80 with the T90:

The Bulging, Twisty Future, As Imagined by Designer Luigi Colani

The EOS AF system with the servomotors in the lens instead of in the body appears to be a development of the T80, but they diameter of the mount became much bigger, evidently they needed more electronic connections between body and lens.

The main problem of the T80 is that it's a camera designed for amateurs who wanted to have more automation as possible, there are just five programs, you don't know at what f stop and shutter speed you are shooting...besides that it feels better in the hand than in the pictures. Actually the "skin" feels better than the T90s.
That is some ugly design there. I quite like some of the 80s cameras - I have a Pentax SFXn which is big, heavy, ugly - but it's extremely comfortable to hold (and goes to 1/4000s which is handy). I also have a Ricoh X-RM which is similar (not quite so ugly) and very comfortable due to the big grip (which has four AAs in it).

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Not REALLY a big fan of Colani's stuff but, spose that personal taste. TBH, I've never touched a T series so, I can't judge too well. I'm sure you can still take good photos with them even with all that automation. I own some EOS kit and, despite all the plastic, I quite like it. The Elan II is quite a nice full featured camera and dead quiet, to say it has a motor drive (gotta love that eye control hehe) E-TTL as well.[COLOR="Silver"]
The Elan II is the EOS 30 (I think), which is quite nice. Very DSLR-like in appearance and operation and AF is miles ahead of that found in Pentax's film SLRs.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Jonathan Mac Quote
That is some ugly design there. I quite like some of the 80s cameras - I have a Pentax SFXn which is big, heavy, ugly - but it's extremely comfortable to hold (and goes to 1/4000s which is handy). I also have a Ricoh X-RM which is similar (not quite so ugly) and very comfortable due to the big grip (which has four AAs in it).



The Elan II is the EOS 30 (I think), which is quite nice. Very DSLR-like in appearance and operation and AF is miles ahead of that found in Pentax's film SLRs.
The Elan II is the EOS 50. My version is the Elan IIe with eye control which, works surprisingly well (for me) The autofocus really surprised me. Snappy and responsive. Quite a bargain for the prices they sell for these days and, my E-TTL flashes work with it. Usually like mechanical things but, this all electronic plastic camera just...works. Quiet as a mouse (mirror and motor drive are virtually inaudible)

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Actually, there is a photo. If you right click on the broken link into a new tab, the url works. The url is apparently https://www.instagram.com/p/BEbBvvetc1F/ , and it doesn't work in a forum [ img ] tag. They have an "embed code", though, but it's full of javascript. They are apparently trying to stop folks from stealing the photos off of instagram. The source for the photo is also a javascript class. They cannot, however, stop a screen grab. Here it is:
Thanks so much!! I didn't have a copy of the original in my phone so that had to do!
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QuoteOriginally posted by doggy1972 Quote
The T series Canons are VERY ugly cameras.
There is a Pentax equivalent, though without the saving grace of AF:



Intended as competition for the T50/T70 I remember when all three were on the shelves at the local camera store and my buddy and I just stared and shook our heads. Ugly on the shelf, clumsy in the hand, and cheap feeling.


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QuoteOriginally posted by stevebrot Quote
There is a Pentax equivalent, though without the saving grace of AF:



Intended as competition for the T50/T70


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Yes Steve, that's a real dog! Beauty is in the eye of the beholder though, or so they say (although I'm glad I don't have to behold that one too often )
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QuoteOriginally posted by doggy1972 Quote
Yes Steve, that's a real dog! Beauty is in the eye of the beholder though, or so they say (although I'm glad I don't have to behold that one too often )
I handled all three cameras back in the day and am surprised that any of them sold.


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I handled all three cameras back in the day and am surprised that any of them sold.


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A REALLY plug ugly point and shoot then?
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QuoteOriginally posted by doggy1972 Quote
A REALLY plug ugly point and shoot then?
Oh, those were pretty ugly too.


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Oh, those were pretty ugly too.


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