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**monochrome** · 11-21-2017, 06:57 PM

Originally posted by Lord Lucan

It could be an M-Series style box (silver) and cap. I have plenty of those. I don't know what A series stuff came in, also silver? I don't think there ever was an M-Series 1:1.2 so the K-Series version continued to be sold through the M-Series time and of course they would have sold it in the then up-to-date silver boxes.

A nuisance with the 1:1.2 is its 52mm filter size while most of the smaller M-Series lenses standardised on 49mm; inevitable perhaps as the glass had to be bigger. Nice to see one on a K2 though; it was "meant" for the K2. The pair were the top-of-the-range kit option I believe, as shown in the K2 handbook and in advertising brochures.

Nuisance? Most of the K series lenses < long telephoto had 52mm filter threads - unless they were larger. The M’s were of course intentionally reduced in size to match the smaller M camera bodies.

Last edited by monochrome; 11-21-2017 at 07:04 PM.

timw4mail · 11-21-2017, 07:35 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

Nuisance? Most of the K series lenses < long telephoto had 52mm filter threads - unless they were larger. The M’s were of course intentionally reduced in size to match the smaller M camera bodies.

Or just back to the size of the Takumar equivalents. It seems most of the Takumars (Super/S-M-C/SMC) < ~100mm have 49mm threads.

longbow · 11-21-2017, 08:35 PM

Originally posted by Lord Lucan

Nice to see one on a K2 though; it was "meant" for the K2.

Thanks, I agree

stevebrot · 11-21-2017, 11:29 PM

Originally posted by Lord Lucan

It could be an M-Series style box (silver) and cap.

I was thinking the same. The cap that came with my M 50/1.7 (bought new in 1982) is the same style.

Steve

**gofour3** · 11-23-2017, 09:39 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Lord Lucan

It could be an M-Series style box (silver) and cap. I have plenty of those. I don't know what A series stuff came in, also silver?

The M Series box was blue/red/green/white in colour, but I've never seen it used for lenses just camera bodies and accessories.

The M series lenses were in the same red/black/white boxes as the K Series.

The original M Series lens caps still should have "Asahi Pentax" on the cap. The latter M & A Series dropped the word "Asahi",

Of course if a lens was in production for a long period, the box changed as well to the latest version.

Phil.

stevebrot · 11-23-2017, 10:54 AM

Originally posted by gofour3

Of course if a lens was in production for a long period, the box changed as well to the latest version.

The smc Pentax 50/1.2 production bridged the M-series time frame, so it is quite possible that caps and packaging might have changed during that time.

I am not sure, but I my recollection is that the my M 50/1.7 came in the silver box (late 1982). I may have still have it somewhere along with the box and manual for my Ricoh XR7 (purchased together).

Edit: The product code printed on the box and on the lens cap sticker is "20947" which is the catalog number for the "SMC" and "smc" 50/1.2. The catalog number for the Pentax-A 50/1.2 was "20987". I think that is pretty good evidence the packaging and cap are original.

Steve

Jonathan Mac · 11-25-2017, 11:55 PM - **2 Likes**

My 645 with 55mm f/2.8 taken with my Yashica Mat 124G

Yashica Mat 124G Portra 160NC primavera 001a by Jonathan MacDonald, on Flickr

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nickthetasmaniac · 11-26-2017, 10:16 PM - **4 Likes**

My 'new' MX and K50/f1.2.

This is the first body I've had serviced by Eric. I actually took a punt on this one from a dubious classifieds add and had it posted directly to Eric's workshop. Worked out ok in the end and it's one of the nicest bodies I've used - one for the keepers

**arnold** · 11-27-2017, 04:43 PM

Originally posted by nickthetasmaniac

My 'new' MX and K50/f1.2.

This is the first body I've had serviced by Eric. I actually took a punt on this one from a dubious classifieds add and had it posted directly to Eric's workshop. Worked out ok in the end and it's one of the nicest bodies I've used - one for the keepers

Perfect! The MX and KX are my favorites.

nickthetasmaniac · 11-28-2017, 10:14 PM

Originally posted by arnold

Perfect! The MX and KX are my favorites.

I haven't had a chance to play with a KX

vyoufinder · 11-29-2017, 12:45 AM - **2 Likes**

Sorry about the double subject matter, but after recently CLA both of these, I can't decide which one to keep. Strangely, these are the only Takumars I've ever owned in which the grease had dried out and gotten stiff. Possibly my all time favorite from Pentax is the Takumar 35mm 1:4. Colors unmatched. The one on the left is in mint condition without the box. I've been using the one on the right, which is in perfect shape.

cooltouch · 11-29-2017, 06:09 AM

Sometimes slower lenses can deliver unmatched performance. I'm reminded of the Leitz collapsible 50mm f/3.5 Elmar. An incredible lens.

Nice that you have a metal hood! So these early Takumars would have typically been paired with which Pentax model? I'm a little hazy on the early ones.

IgorZ · 11-29-2017, 07:02 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by vyoufinder

Sorry about the double subject matter, but after recently CLA both of these, I can't decide which one to keep. Strangely, these are the only Takumars I've ever owned in which the grease had dried out and gotten stiff. Possibly my all time favorite from Pentax is the Takumar 35mm 1:4. Colors unmatched. The one on the left is in mint condition without the box. I've been using the one on the right, which is in perfect shape.

I recently got a 58mm f2 Takumar. Now I want to get all of those early ones... You really have to hold one to realize how well they are made. I think the one I have is better made than the FA 43...

vyoufinder · 11-29-2017, 09:10 PM

Originally posted by cooltouch

Sometimes slower lenses can deliver unmatched performance. I'm reminded of the Leitz collapsible 50mm f/3.5 Elmar. An incredible lens.

Nice that you have a metal hood! So these early Takumars would have typically been paired with which Pentax model? I'm a little hazy on the early ones.

1957, the same year as the release of this lens was the era of the "Asahi Pentax" camera. It was the first M42 screw mount camera, and why he term "Pentax screw mount" is still commonly used to describe M42.

**WPRESTO** · 11-30-2017, 06:29 AM

Originally posted by vyoufinder

1957, the same year as the release of this lens was the era of the "Asahi Pentax" camera. It was the first M42 screw mount camera, and why he term "Pentax screw mount" is still commonly used to describe M42.

1957, the year I bought my first Pentax (Asahi Pentax S with f2.2 preset Takumar). Neither the original Nikon F nor the original Canonflex had been released at the time. The Pentax was very popular, but in truth, it was the Nikon F that made a 35mm SLR the camera of choice for the rest of the century, displacing the post-war increasing popularity of a 35mm rangefinder (especially Leica M and Nikon S) and decreasing popularity of the 4X5 press camera (especially Graflex and Linhof). At the time, 4X5 was considered "standard" or "professional" and 35mm was still commonly called a "miniature camera." 21/4 square (Rollei et all, and the newcomer Hasselblad) were always a tag-along segment of the market.

11-23-2017, 09:39 AM - 1 Like	#5150
gofour3 Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 8,090	Originally posted by Lord Lucan It could be an M-Series style box (silver) and cap. I have plenty of those. I don't know what A series stuff came in, also silver? The M Series box was blue/red/green/white in colour, but I've never seen it used for lenses just camera bodies and accessories. The M series lenses were in the same red/black/white boxes as the K Series. The original M Series lens caps still should have "Asahi Pentax" on the cap. The latter M & A Series dropped the word "Asahi", Of course if a lens was in production for a long period, the box changed as well to the latest version. Phil. Last edited by gofour3; 11-23-2017 at 09:51 AM. Reason: added line

11-23-2017, 10:54 AM	#5151
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by gofour3 Of course if a lens was in production for a long period, the box changed as well to the latest version. The smc Pentax 50/1.2 production bridged the M-series time frame, so it is quite possible that caps and packaging might have changed during that time. I am not sure, but I my recollection is that the my M 50/1.7 came in the silver box (late 1982). I may have still have it somewhere along with the box and manual for my Ricoh XR7 (purchased together). Edit: The product code printed on the box and on the lens cap sticker is "20947" which is the catalog number for the "SMC" and "smc" 50/1.2. The catalog number for the Pentax-A 50/1.2 was "20987". I think that is pretty good evidence the packaging and cap are original. Steve Last edited by stevebrot; 11-23-2017 at 11:02 AM.

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11-21-2017, 06:57 PM	#5146
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by Lord Lucan It could be an M-Series style box (silver) and cap. I have plenty of those. I don't know what A series stuff came in, also silver? I don't think there ever was an M-Series 1:1.2 so the K-Series version continued to be sold through the M-Series time and of course they would have sold it in the then up-to-date silver boxes. A nuisance with the 1:1.2 is its 52mm filter size while most of the smaller M-Series lenses standardised on 49mm; inevitable perhaps as the glass had to be bigger. Nice to see one on a K2 though; it was "meant" for the K2. The pair were the top-of-the-range kit option I believe, as shown in the K2 handbook and in advertising brochures. Nuisance? Most of the K series lenses < long telephoto had 52mm filter threads - unless they were larger. The M’s were of course intentionally reduced in size to match the smaller M camera bodies. Last edited by monochrome; 11-21-2017 at 07:04 PM.

11-21-2017, 07:35 PM	#5147
timw4mail Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Driving a Mirage Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,670	Originally posted by monochrome Nuisance? Most of the K series lenses < long telephoto had 52mm filter threads - unless they were larger. The M’s were of course intentionally reduced in size to match the smaller M camera bodies. Or just back to the size of the Takumar equivalents. It seems most of the Takumars (Super/S-M-C/SMC) < ~100mm have 49mm threads.

11-21-2017, 08:35 PM	#5148
longbow Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: NW Oregon Posts: 905	Originally posted by Lord Lucan Nice to see one on a K2 though; it was "meant" for the K2. Thanks, I agree

11-21-2017, 11:29 PM	#5149
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by Lord Lucan It could be an M-Series style box (silver) and cap. I was thinking the same. The cap that came with my M 50/1.7 (bought new in 1982) is the same style. Steve

11-25-2017, 11:55 PM - 2 Likes	#5152
Jonathan Mac Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 10,894	My 645 with 55mm f/2.8 taken with my Yashica Mat 124G Yashica Mat 124G Portra 160NC primavera 001a by Jonathan MacDonald, on Flickr Last edited by Jonathan Mac; 11-28-2017 at 07:36 AM.

11-26-2017, 10:16 PM - 4 Likes	#5153
nickthetasmaniac Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 2,361	My 'new' MX and K50/f1.2. This is the first body I've had serviced by Eric. I actually took a punt on this one from a dubious classifieds add and had it posted directly to Eric's workshop. Worked out ok in the end and it's one of the nicest bodies I've used - one for the keepers

11-27-2017, 04:43 PM	#5154
arnold Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Queensland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,294	Originally posted by nickthetasmaniac My 'new' MX and K50/f1.2. This is the first body I've had serviced by Eric. I actually took a punt on this one from a dubious classifieds add and had it posted directly to Eric's workshop. Worked out ok in the end and it's one of the nicest bodies I've used - one for the keepers Perfect! The MX and KX are my favorites.

11-28-2017, 10:14 PM	#5155
nickthetasmaniac Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 2,361	Originally posted by arnold Perfect! The MX and KX are my favorites. I haven't had a chance to play with a KX

11-29-2017, 06:09 AM	#5157
cooltouch Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Houston, Texas Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 982	Sometimes slower lenses can deliver unmatched performance. I'm reminded of the Leitz collapsible 50mm f/3.5 Elmar. An incredible lens. Nice that you have a metal hood! So these early Takumars would have typically been paired with which Pentax model? I'm a little hazy on the early ones.

11-29-2017, 07:02 AM - 1 Like	#5158
IgorZ Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Ottawa Posts: 1,735	Originally posted by vyoufinder Sorry about the double subject matter, but after recently CLA both of these, I can't decide which one to keep. Strangely, these are the only Takumars I've ever owned in which the grease had dried out and gotten stiff. Possibly my all time favorite from Pentax is the Takumar 35mm 1:4. Colors unmatched. The one on the left is in mint condition without the box. I've been using the one on the right, which is in perfect shape. I recently got a 58mm f2 Takumar. Now I want to get all of those early ones... You really have to hold one to realize how well they are made. I think the one I have is better made than the FA 43...

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11-29-2017, 09:10 PM	#5159
vyoufinder Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Moab, Utah Photos: Gallery Posts: 90	Originally posted by cooltouch Sometimes slower lenses can deliver unmatched performance. I'm reminded of the Leitz collapsible 50mm f/3.5 Elmar. An incredible lens. Nice that you have a metal hood! So these early Takumars would have typically been paired with which Pentax model? I'm a little hazy on the early ones. 1957, the same year as the release of this lens was the era of the "Asahi Pentax" camera. It was the first M42 screw mount camera, and why he term "Pentax screw mount" is still commonly used to describe M42.

11-30-2017, 06:29 AM	#5160
WPRESTO Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Massachusetts Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 59,104	Originally posted by vyoufinder 1957, the same year as the release of this lens was the era of the "Asahi Pentax" camera. It was the first M42 screw mount camera, and why he term "Pentax screw mount" is still commonly used to describe M42. 1957, the year I bought my first Pentax (Asahi Pentax S with f2.2 preset Takumar). Neither the original Nikon F nor the original Canonflex had been released at the time. The Pentax was very popular, but in truth, it was the Nikon F that made a 35mm SLR the camera of choice for the rest of the century, displacing the post-war increasing popularity of a 35mm rangefinder (especially Leica M and Nikon S) and decreasing popularity of the 4X5 press camera (especially Graflex and Linhof). At the time, 4X5 was considered "standard" or "professional" and 35mm was still commonly called a "miniature camera." 21/4 square (Rollei et all, and the newcomer Hasselblad) were always a tag-along segment of the market.