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07-08-2021, 11:52 PM - 1 Like   #7906
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07-11-2021, 10:12 AM - 7 Likes   #7907
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Probably one of the beast deals I ever found was this Olympus OM-3 listed on KEH AS-IS, NOT WORKING, PARTS ONLY. It's a fully manual body and the batteries are only required for metering and self timer. The most advanced in a manual body that includes center weighted average, spot, multi spot, highlight and shadow.



KEH didn't used to include pics of the item itself so I was surprised by the outside condition as it looked great. It is a fully manual camera and everything mechanical about it seemed to function just fine. So I put new batteries in and it matched up to my Sekonic meter perfectly. Now I'm waiting for the part that something will fall off it but after running some rolls of film through it some years now it's still perfectly fine.
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QuoteOriginally posted by LesDMess Quote
Probably one of the beast deals I ever found was this Olympus OM-3 listed on KEH AS-IS, NOT WORKING, PARTS ONLY. It's a fully manual body and the batteries are only required for metering and self timer. The most advanced in a manual body that includes center weighted average, spot, multi spot, highlight and shadow.



KEH didn't used to include pics of the item itself so I was surprised by the outside condition as it looked great. It is a fully manual camera and everything mechanical about it seemed to function just fine. So I put new batteries in and it matched up to my Sekonic meter perfectly. Now I'm waiting for the part that something will fall off it but after running some rolls of film through it some years now it's still perfectly fine.
It looks like someone at KEH goofed up in a major way, but to your advantage. What luck!


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It looks like someone at KEH goofed up in a major way, but to your advantage. What luck!


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Maybe this is just their form of rebate for all the purchases I've made with them . . .

As much as KEH goes through tons of manual cameras, I don't see this listed there often so they may not be that familiar with it although it is functionally just like the OM1.

To be sure, the price was still high specially considering the listed condition.


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07-12-2021, 01:15 AM - 1 Like   #7910
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QuoteOriginally posted by LesDMess Quote
Probably one of the beast deals I ever found was this Olympus OM-3 listed on KEH AS-IS, NOT WORKING, PARTS ONLY. It's a fully manual body and the batteries are only required for metering and self timer. The most advanced in a manual body that includes center weighted average, spot, multi spot, highlight and shadow.



KEH didn't used to include pics of the item itself so I was surprised by the outside condition as it looked great. It is a fully manual camera and everything mechanical about it seemed to function just fine. So I put new batteries in and it matched up to my Sekonic meter perfectly. Now I'm waiting for the part that something will fall off it but after running some rolls of film through it some years now it's still perfectly fine.

Nice! OM3s are at insane prices now. I have the poor mans cousin - the OM4Ti, which is also creeping up in price.
I have only shot one roll, but so far really like the camera. The spot metering system is brilliantly implemented, as is the viewfinder display. If only they had found a way to display the aperture in the finder it would of been perfect.

The downside of the OM4Ti is that they used butter as a priming layer before applying the black paint, so it flakes off by sneezing in the general direction of the camera. The OM3Tis have an anodized finish which is far superior. My OM4Ti has the famous ‘coffee grinder’ wind-on feel, however this is exaggerated when there is no film loaded. With a film loaded the advance feels fine.

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QuoteOriginally posted by LesDMess Quote
Probably one of the beast deals I ever found was this Olympus OM-3 listed on KEH AS-IS, NOT WORKING, PARTS ONLY. It's a fully manual body and the batteries are only required for metering and self timer. The most advanced in a manual body that includes center weighted average, spot, multi spot, highlight and shadow.



KEH didn't used to include pics of the item itself so I was surprised by the outside condition as it looked great. It is a fully manual camera and everything mechanical about it seemed to function just fine. So I put new batteries in and it matched up to my Sekonic meter perfectly. Now I'm waiting for the part that something will fall off it but after running some rolls of film through it some years now it's still perfectly fine.
The OM cameras are handsome indeed. I've fancied one for ages even though they do nothing my existing cameras don't, but never come across any good deals.
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QuoteOriginally posted by LesDMess Quote
Probably one of the beast deals I ever found was this Olympus OM-3 listed on KEH AS-IS, NOT WORKING, PARTS ONLY. It's a fully manual body and the batteries are only required for metering and self timer. The most advanced in a manual body that includes center weighted average, spot, multi spot, highlight and shadow.



KEH didn't used to include pics of the item itself so I was surprised by the outside condition as it looked great. It is a fully manual camera and everything mechanical about it seemed to function just fine. So I put new batteries in and it matched up to my Sekonic meter perfectly. Now I'm waiting for the part that something will fall off it but after running some rolls of film through it some years now it's still perfectly fine.

Looks like there's a dent in the upper corner at the winder end. May that's what prompted the "as is" label.

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Nice! OM3s are at insane prices now. I have the poor mans cousin - the OM4Ti, which is also creeping up in price.
I have only shot one roll, but so far really like the camera. The spot metering system is brilliantly implemented, as is the viewfinder display. If only they had found a way to display the aperture in the finder it would of been perfect.

The downside of the OM4Ti is that they used butter as a priming layer before applying the black paint, so it flakes off by sneezing in the general direction of the camera. The OM3Tis have an anodized finish which is far superior. My OM4Ti has the famous ‘coffee grinder’ wind-on feel, however this is exaggerated when there is no film loaded. With a film loaded the advance feels fine.
Of course Olympus lenses I have seem to have their aperture rings on the end of the lenses too. Although I have a third party lens with the ring at the base because the same lens is available for other brand bodies. The only other camera I have with the shutter speed on the lens mount is the Nikkormat FT3 and it also doesn't have an aperture window. I wonder if this design precludes that?



It seems odd to me that one would paint a Titanium body . . .



Yeah my OM3 & 4 are not winning the smoothest film advance contest.

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The OM cameras are handsome indeed. I've fancied one for ages even though they do nothing my existing cameras don't, but never come across any good deals.
No doubt availability in different regions vary. Even Pentax had different model designations in different parts of the world. What are the most common manual cameras there?

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Looks like there's a dent in the upper corner at the winder end. May that's what prompted the "as is" label.
I know that KEH is very conservative in their ratings so I didn't expect much for an AS-IS camera so I was more then pleasantly surprised considering it's a black body too . . .



Yeah, no dents on this gem!

Of course the real qualifier on the OM3 & 4 is whether or not it "eats" batteries quickly. The quick test is to turn the battery test on and if it stops beeping after 30 seconds then it has the newer electronics and both of mine pass this test as well as in real world use.

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QuoteOriginally posted by LesDMess Quote
The only other camera I have with the shutter speed on the lens mount is the Nikkormat FT3.
I have always thought that the OM's were very desirable cameras, and have tried owning one on a couple of occasions. I just never could get on with the shutter speed dial round the lens throat, though I do like the aperture positioning at the end of the lens (most Canon FL lenses and TTartisan ones I like partly for this reason also). I recently went to my local camera store and they had a very good condition FT3 in the window which I could not resist a play of. I much prefer Nikon's implementation of the shutter speed dial to that of Olympus, it being much easier for me to change and to see. I am still wondering whether or not to get the FT3, but I do have a lot of old film cameras already and I am not sure it would ever get used due to it being quite a bit bigger and heavier than my FM2s of FA.
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As much as I like the look of the OM series cameras, I am trying to keep GAS in check by sticking to Pentax 35mm SLRs. It doesn't stop me buying non-Pentax folders, pinhole, large format... ugh.

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QuoteOriginally posted by LesDMess Quote
No doubt availability in different regions vary. Even Pentax had different model designations in different parts of the world. What are the most common manual cameras there?
It's not that the Oly cameras aren't that common, just that there aren't any bargains to be found on them. I see quite a few of their power-AF cameras for sale but they don't appeal at all.

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As much as I like the look of the OM series cameras, I am trying to keep GAS in check by sticking to Pentax 35mm SLRs. It doesn't stop me buying non-Pentax folders, pinhole, large format... ugh.

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Yep, each new mount opens up a whole new world of GAS. Of course with a digital mirrorless a new mount is only €20 away in the form of an adapter...
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QuoteOriginally posted by LesDMess Quote
Of course Olympus lenses I have seem to have their aperture rings on the end of the lenses too. Although I have a third party lens with the ring at the base because the same lens is available for other brand bodies. The only other camera I have with the shutter speed on the lens mount is the Nikkormat FT3 and it also doesn't have an aperture window. I wonder if this design precludes that?
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There are two design choices that preclude an aperture display in the VF. Firstly, placing the aperture scale at the front of the lens precludes the use of an optical ‘Judas window’. Secondly the mechanical couplings of the OM mount only tells the camera how many stops the lens aperture is stopped down, it doesn’t tell the camera the lens maximum aperture which is needed to calculate the actual aperture value. A separate coupling would be required for this, which could then be used to display the selected aperture in the VF, by rotating a mechanical disc or electronic display.

I suppose the design of the OM1 with the top cover prism housing closely sculpted to the shape of the glass prism ruled out the inclusion of a mechanical aperture indicator. Electronic displays were still some time off in 1972 so the designers didn’t have the foresight to include the required lens coupling so the aperture could be displayed in future cameras.

The Contax 139 is a great example of a compact SLR which is the same size and weight as an OM camera but with a mechanical aperture indicator in the VF. The aperture display is actually much easier to read than the Judas window design.

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It's not that the Oly cameras aren't that common, just that there aren't any bargains to be found on them.[COLOR="Silver"
It depends what your threshold for a bargain is. If it is <€£$50 then I agree, you can’t get an interesting Olympus for that.
However if your threshold is a bit higher I think the OM2N is an incredibly good buy now. I was lucky enough to find one from a UK dealer at £90 in mint condition with new seals. These are beautifully made cameras designed for professional use.

OM1s are generally not cheap now and have the annoying problem of needing a mercury battery adapter.
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Here is my 139 just back from a full strip down and rebuild from Peter Robinson. For those that don’t know, Peter is the ‘Sover Wong’ for Contax, specialising in the 139. Check out his web site here: Contax 139 Resource

Now I need to find some nice Zeiss lenses on ebay. Not cheap, but not as expensive as Leica.


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Here is my 139 just back from a full strip down and rebuild from Peter Robinson. For those that don’t know, Peter is the ‘Sover Wong’ for Contax, specialising in the 139. Check out his web site here: Contax 139 Resource

Now I need to find some nice Zeiss lenses on ebay. Not cheap, but not as expensive as Leica.


Serious looking camera!
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Now I need to find some nice Zeiss lenses on ebay. Not cheap, but not as expensive as Leica.
I recommend the 85mm f2.8, 45mm f2.8* and 50mm f1.7 in the Zeiss range. However, on a budget that 50mm ML is a fine lens, as is the DSB 55mm** f2, the ML 55mm f2.8 Macro and ML 35mm f2.8. I use the Ziess lenses for B&W and the Yashica ones for colour.

* Not up to the usual build quality of Zeiss lenses (unless you pay a fortune for a Ltd edition one), but optically superb especially with B&W film
** Needs a hood as flare can otherwise be an issue, but it is very cheap. Mine came attached to an old working Yashica FX-2 for £15.
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