I love my K1000

jgredline · 04-04-2008, 09:59 PM

Here are some I took at the San Gabriel Mission...

Last edited by jgredline; 04-04-2008 at 10:44 PM.

jgredline · 04-04-2008, 10:05 PM

Here I am at Olvera Street.

jgredline · 04-04-2008, 10:09 PM

These are at A cemetery in Culver city where many ''movie stars'' are in the grave...It would seem appropriate that I end this series with Dracula..

ftpaddict · 04-05-2008, 12:25 AM

Har har. Dracula was a myth. And a Romanian one at that...

johnsey · 04-05-2008, 12:29 AM

Just something I thought of while i am half awake here at almost 3 am...
I noticed about 3 slight shade variations in your scans, for consistency's sake you may want to re look at your work flow for toning and contrast.

woof · 04-05-2008, 08:07 PM

Javier,

I really enjoy your photography, especially because I know many of these places, and because I think you have a lot of talent. These scans are cool, but they are still in RGB mode... that is, the mode is color, and it is imparting a bluish tint to the pictures that actually makes them a little... cold.

I hope you will not mind me taking the liberty of copying one of your photos, changing it to greyscale, then punching up brightness and contrast. Just for comparison sake. It is subtle, but I think it makes a big difference.

I think you might like the result. Have a look and let me know what you think and then I'll remove it from my host. If the color cast is intentional, I apologize... Either way, this is good stuff.

Best,

woof

johnsey · 04-05-2008, 08:34 PM

yeah, sorry i wasn't trying to take away from what were some real nice shots, I just figured I should point that out. just a force of habit after the last four years of critique

Steinback · 04-05-2008, 08:37 PM

I've actually been quite impressed by how well my K1000 works with the DA18-55 off of my K10. (Hopefully the code for embedding this shot works...).

Steinback · 04-05-2008, 08:58 PM

That came out a bit larger than I was hoping for. I'm going to look around and see if I can come up with a better way to imbed photos in my posts. In the meantime here's a link to another DA18-55 photo off of my K1000 at ~55mm (so no vignetting):

84130001 on Flickr - Photo Sharing!

Edit: There we go, those sizes look a little more reasonable.

jgredline · 04-05-2008, 10:07 PM

Woof, Thank You!
That does look allot better. That is what it was missing. As far as the critique goes, I never mind, in fact in the other forum I post in, I have it in my sig. I will add it here as well.... Your edit looks great...

ftpaddict..Bella Lagosi was the actor who played the original dracula in the black and white version...It turns out most folks do not know this..

johnsey, As I said earlier, I do not mind the critique..This is how I learn..Believe, me..I am my own worst critic..

Thanks folks for all the comments...

mel · 04-06-2008, 12:01 PM

I took my K1000 for a spin for the first time in ages while in London. It's funny how fast we adapt to new technology. While shooting, I kept looking at the back of the camera after releasing the shutter to see what my shot looked like. Oops.

It took me an entire roll of film to remember how to use it.

jgredline · 04-06-2008, 08:08 PM

Here are a few more I took these past couple of days...

jgredline · 04-06-2008, 08:09 PM

Originally posted by Steinback

That came out a bit larger than I was hoping for. I'm going to look around and see if I can come up with a better way to imbed photos in my posts. In the meantime here's a link to another DA18-55 photo off of my K1000 at ~55mm (so no vignetting):

84130001 on Flickr - Photo Sharing!

Edit: There we go, those sizes look a little more reasonable.

This is very cool and interesting. I will have to try that. What focal length did you use?

Steinback · 04-06-2008, 08:47 PM

@jgredline:

The photo of the apartment building was taken somewhere between 40 and 55mm and at 1/60 of a second (I do kind of miss EXIF data when I'm shooting film). The car photo that I posted was taken at around 20mm and 1/30.

The biggest problem with the DA lens on film was that without an aperature ring you only have very limited control of F-stop. Zoomed all the way out you are at F22 and zoomed all the way in you are at something like F38. I shot half a roll of film with the lens on a fairly bright day and was impressed by how well the K1000's light meter worked at higher F-stops, as the exposures on all of my photos were very good. If you take a look at my Flickr stream the last 8 photos were all taken with the DA18-55 on my K1000 and I only did very minor retouching from the negative scans the developer gave me.

I found that vignetting disappeared at about 24mm. I really don't mind the vignetting for snapshots as it draws your attention to the centre of the photo and I find it to be an interesting effect in moderation. The vignetting is very easy to control as you can see it quite clearly through the viewfinder. I was shooting without the lens hood on because it clips off the top and bottom of the image at ~24mm and wider, but at longer focal lengths the hood should work just fine. Working at 1/30 to 1/90 of a second under bright sunlight felt a bit odd but that range is still quite easy to hand hold, especially at the wider end of the zoom range.

As a side note, using the K10d kit lens on my K1000 has convinced me to buy a split prism focusing screen for the K10d because it's amazing how much easier the lens is to use when you can precisely set the focus.

Mike Cash · 04-07-2008, 05:08 AM

Javier,

Are you finding yourself using your film cameras more and more and your digital less and less? That has certainly been the case with me here lately.

Cost and all that sort of thing aside, there is some undefinable "something" about shooting with film and with the build and handling of the "old" cameras. I now find my K100D unspeakably ugly and more than ever despise that godawful butt-ugly built-in flash protrusion. And I suppose part of it comes from the fact that it will always be a 6mp camera where I typically get close to 15mp from my 35mm cameras and, as I type this, am scanning in some nice 20mp images from a 1953 Mamiya medium format folder.

I've sort of held off on jonesing for a K10D, K200D, or K20D (which is totally out of my reach) mostly on the grounds that whatever is wrong with my photography isn't going to be fixed by a few more megapixels. But still, they sure are nice coming off of film. And all my many film cameras are 15mp and up, thanks to having an up-to-date good quality scanner.

04-04-2008, 10:05 PM	#32
jgredline Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: LosAngeles, Ca. Photos: Albums Posts: 10,628 Original Poster	Here I am at Olvera Street. Last edited by jgredline; 04-04-2008 at 10:44 PM.

04-05-2008, 12:29 AM	#35
johnsey Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Fargo, ND Posts: 113	Just something I thought of while i am half awake here at almost 3 am... I noticed about 3 slight shade variations in your scans, for consistency's sake you may want to re look at your work flow for toning and contrast. Last edited by johnsey; 04-05-2008 at 10:00 AM.

04-05-2008, 08:37 PM	#38
Steinback Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: GTA, ON, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,673	I've actually been quite impressed by how well my K1000 works with the DA18-55 off of my K10. (Hopefully the code for embedding this shot works...). Last edited by Steinback; 04-05-2008 at 09:04 PM. Reason: Trying to fix HTML, gave up on HTML, went to IMG tags, finally got code working

04-05-2008, 08:58 PM	#39
Steinback Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: GTA, ON, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,673	That came out a bit larger than I was hoping for. I'm going to look around and see if I can come up with a better way to imbed photos in my posts. In the meantime here's a link to another DA18-55 photo off of my K1000 at ~55mm (so no vignetting): 84130001 on Flickr - Photo Sharing! Edit: There we go, those sizes look a little more reasonable. Last edited by Steinback; 04-05-2008 at 09:05 PM.

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04-04-2008, 09:59 PM	#31
jgredline Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: LosAngeles, Ca. Photos: Albums Posts: 10,628 Original Poster	Here are some I took at the San Gabriel Mission... Last edited by jgredline; 04-04-2008 at 10:44 PM.

04-04-2008, 10:09 PM	#33
jgredline Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: LosAngeles, Ca. Photos: Albums Posts: 10,628 Original Poster	These are at A cemetery in Culver city where many ''movie stars'' are in the grave...It would seem appropriate that I end this series with Dracula..

04-05-2008, 12:25 AM	#34
ftpaddict Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Yurp Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,666	Har har. Dracula was a myth. And a Romanian one at that...

04-05-2008, 08:07 PM	#36
woof Inactive Account Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In the present Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,870	Javier, I really enjoy your photography, especially because I know many of these places, and because I think you have a lot of talent. These scans are cool, but they are still in RGB mode... that is, the mode is color, and it is imparting a bluish tint to the pictures that actually makes them a little... cold. I hope you will not mind me taking the liberty of copying one of your photos, changing it to greyscale, then punching up brightness and contrast. Just for comparison sake. It is subtle, but I think it makes a big difference. I think you might like the result. Have a look and let me know what you think and then I'll remove it from my host. If the color cast is intentional, I apologize... Either way, this is good stuff. Best, woof

04-05-2008, 08:34 PM	#37
johnsey Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Fargo, ND Posts: 113	yeah, sorry i wasn't trying to take away from what were some real nice shots, I just figured I should point that out. just a force of habit after the last four years of critique

04-05-2008, 10:07 PM	#40
jgredline Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: LosAngeles, Ca. Photos: Albums Posts: 10,628 Original Poster	Woof, Thank You! That does look allot better. That is what it was missing. As far as the critique goes, I never mind, in fact in the other forum I post in, I have it in my sig. I will add it here as well.... Your edit looks great... ftpaddict..Bella Lagosi was the actor who played the original dracula in the black and white version...It turns out most folks do not know this.. johnsey, As I said earlier, I do not mind the critique..This is how I learn..Believe, me..I am my own worst critic.. Thanks folks for all the comments...

04-06-2008, 12:01 PM	#41
mel Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Virginia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,531	I took my K1000 for a spin for the first time in ages while in London. It's funny how fast we adapt to new technology. While shooting, I kept looking at the back of the camera after releasing the shutter to see what my shot looked like. Oops. It took me an entire roll of film to remember how to use it.

04-06-2008, 08:08 PM	#42
jgredline Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: LosAngeles, Ca. Photos: Albums Posts: 10,628 Original Poster	Here are a few more I took these past couple of days...

04-06-2008, 08:09 PM	#43
jgredline Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: LosAngeles, Ca. Photos: Albums Posts: 10,628 Original Poster	Originally posted by Steinback That came out a bit larger than I was hoping for. I'm going to look around and see if I can come up with a better way to imbed photos in my posts. In the meantime here's a link to another DA18-55 photo off of my K1000 at ~55mm (so no vignetting): 84130001 on Flickr - Photo Sharing! Edit: There we go, those sizes look a little more reasonable. This is very cool and interesting. I will have to try that. What focal length did you use?

04-06-2008, 08:47 PM	#44
Steinback Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: GTA, ON, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,673	@jgredline: The photo of the apartment building was taken somewhere between 40 and 55mm and at 1/60 of a second (I do kind of miss EXIF data when I'm shooting film). The car photo that I posted was taken at around 20mm and 1/30. The biggest problem with the DA lens on film was that without an aperature ring you only have very limited control of F-stop. Zoomed all the way out you are at F22 and zoomed all the way in you are at something like F38. I shot half a roll of film with the lens on a fairly bright day and was impressed by how well the K1000's light meter worked at higher F-stops, as the exposures on all of my photos were very good. If you take a look at my Flickr stream the last 8 photos were all taken with the DA18-55 on my K1000 and I only did very minor retouching from the negative scans the developer gave me. I found that vignetting disappeared at about 24mm. I really don't mind the vignetting for snapshots as it draws your attention to the centre of the photo and I find it to be an interesting effect in moderation. The vignetting is very easy to control as you can see it quite clearly through the viewfinder. I was shooting without the lens hood on because it clips off the top and bottom of the image at ~24mm and wider, but at longer focal lengths the hood should work just fine. Working at 1/30 to 1/90 of a second under bright sunlight felt a bit odd but that range is still quite easy to hand hold, especially at the wider end of the zoom range. As a side note, using the K10d kit lens on my K1000 has convinced me to buy a split prism focusing screen for the K10d because it's amazing how much easier the lens is to use when you can precisely set the focus.

04-07-2008, 05:08 AM	#45
Mike Cash Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Japan Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,950	Javier, Are you finding yourself using your film cameras more and more and your digital less and less? That has certainly been the case with me here lately. Cost and all that sort of thing aside, there is some undefinable "something" about shooting with film and with the build and handling of the "old" cameras. I now find my K100D unspeakably ugly and more than ever despise that godawful butt-ugly built-in flash protrusion. And I suppose part of it comes from the fact that it will always be a 6mp camera where I typically get close to 15mp from my 35mm cameras and, as I type this, am scanning in some nice 20mp images from a 1953 Mamiya medium format folder. I've sort of held off on jonesing for a K10D, K200D, or K20D (which is totally out of my reach) mostly on the grounds that whatever is wrong with my photography isn't going to be fixed by a few more megapixels. But still, they sure are nice coming off of film. And all my many film cameras are 15mp and up, thanks to having an up-to-date good quality scanner.