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05-30-2009, 09:42 AM   #76
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QuoteOriginally posted by Ratmagiclady Quote
I would have to go with a bunch. Canon F-1N would be my obvious favorite in practice. Also very fond of the Nikon FE2, (doubtless would find the FM3A even better) ...and the LX is probably of a class, though I haven't used one extensively.

Really have a soft spot for the Canon FTbn, as well.
Those all came to my mind as well. I was never fortunate enough to own any of them, but remember fondly handling them in the store and wishing they could be mine.

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Those all came to my mind as well. I was never fortunate enough to own any of them, but remember fondly handling them in the store and wishing they could be mine.

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Hee. Well, don't we all have that going on. Got to play with someone's Contax, once, and thought, 'If I get stupidly-rich, I'll get into this.'

Old Canons have rarely been really 'The best' you could have on any point, but I've always found them endearing for the almost total lack of 'quirks.' It either does something or it doesn't, no compatibility charts, no quirky design 'features' that later turn out to be a pain in the behind, at least under such and such condition, ... as little in the way as possible. Straightforward instruments for a hyperactive mind. (Conspicuous exceptions being their pre-TTL- ''dedicated flash' system. No, don't override my shutter speed selection. Limit it to synchable, maybe. But if I want 1/15, I want to turn a dial and have 1/15. )
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Thanks I'm looking forward to getting the camera, hope it looks as good as the picture.

There is a nice CLAed black K2 on eBay attracting some attention, bidding ends soon:

Black Asahi Pentax K2 35mm SLR Camera Refurbished K Mt on eBay.ca (item 300317216223 end time 30-May-09 15:00:00 EDT)
Ahhh, the temptation. Nice looking camera - but I got this



including a CLA by Eric, for about the same money

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Ahhh, the temptation. Nice looking camera - but I got this
including a CLA by Eric, for about the same money
Very nice, looks like a steal at that price!
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MESuper
ME-F
LX
SuperPROGRAM
SFX/SF1
SF7/SF10
PZ-10, PZ-20, Z-5n, PZ-70 (the rest are 8000)
all the MZ's except the 3, 5 (4000) and S (6000)
The MZ-6/ZX-L is also 1/4000. The MZ5/ZX5 and MZ5n/ZX5n are actually 1/2000.

Javier, basically all of the AF are at least 1/2000 or faster. As far as manual focus goes, only the SuperProgram, LX, ME Super and ME F are 1/2000.
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Thanks Monochrome and Blue.
The reason I asked is because the 1/2000 shutter speed is important to me. For most, this is not a problem, but for me, since I shoot mostly in the day with ASA 400-800 speed films @ F/8-F/16 preferring F/11. The reason for this is because I use the hyperfocal or zone focusing method 99% of the time.
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Thanks Monochrome and Blue.
The reason I asked is because the 1/2000 shutter speed is important to me. For most, this is not a problem, but for me, since I shoot mostly in the day with ASA 400-800 speed films @ F/8-F/16 preferring F/11. The reason for this is because I use the hyperfocal or zone focusing method 99% of the time.
It's good to have. I actually rarely use faster than 1/1000, with my lower-light-loving ways and general avoidance of bright sun, so I rarely even notice top shutter speeds. My K20d was on automatic yesterday, and I at first thought something was going haywire when the top LCD went to 1/3000.

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Thanks Monochrome and Blue.
The reason I asked is because the 1/2000 shutter speed is important to me. For most, this is not a problem, but for me, since I shoot mostly in the day with ASA 400-800 speed films @ F/8-F/16 preferring F/11. The reason for this is because I use the hyperfocal or zone focusing method 99% of the time.
In addition to the ttl flash, the 1/2000 shutter speed is another reason I like the SuperProgram.
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Back then, faster speeds weren't considered so desirable because most films were believed to suffer reciprocity failure at speeds greater than about 1/1000 sec. These days, 1/10,000 sec. is regarded as the upper limit.
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Not to mention, it might get a bit expensive with mechanical shutters to get past 1/1000. Electronic shutters are another thing.
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Not to mention, it might get a bit expensive with mechanical shutters to get past 1/1000. Electronic shutters are another thing.
expensive and very likely beyond the technological capabilities of the mechanical systems employed at the time. hell im not sure even a modern mechanical could reliably achieve 1/10,000, much less be able to do it for the shutters lifetime.
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Back then, faster speeds weren't considered so desirable because most films were believed to suffer reciprocity failure at speeds greater than about 1/1000 sec. These days, 1/10,000 sec. is regarded as the upper limit.
Also most people used much slower daylight film back then, like Kodachrome 25 & 64 ASA. You never needed a shutter speed faster than 1/1000th.
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I think it is very cool that for you ''back then'' folks, you can really appreciate the better films and shutter speeds that came along. You got to wait with anticipation of the new films coming out, via good old fashion news paper adds and perhaps the occasional tv commercial. Things that I had not even considered until just now.

No forums starting senseless rumors etc..
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1) Photography magazines and club letters 2) jawing at the camera store.

But yes, it's hard to believe I ever shot with ASA32 and 25 and 50 film. But I did.
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