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11-19-2013, 03:25 PM   #16
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QuoteOriginally posted by Cuthbert Quote
Ok then it was the OEM lens for the KX and the K2? And does it perform? I've heard that it's a very good lens and I live 55 or 58 mm more than 50 mm.
Yes the K55/1.8 is a great lens and has the exact same optics as the K55/2.

When I bought my KX back in 1975 I choose the K55/1.8 because it was the least expensive standard lens and I also bought the K28/3.5 & K135/3.5.
The Pentax camera bodies were sold separately. You also got to choose the finish of black or chrome and the type of focusing screen, which were micro prism or split screen.

Example the list prices in Canadian for the standard lenses were:

K50/1.2 = $299.95
K50/1.4 = $199.95
K55/1.8 = $124.95

When the K1000 & K55/2 were released in 1976 they were an official Pentax kit and not something the camera store put together.

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It depends on what you want the camera for? If it's to shoot with, it doesn't really make a difference, even the 'plastic' (none Asahi) ones are well built, and being newer more likely to be in better condition. More important is the choice between the standard & SE models (the SE has the split image focus aid apparently - I've not seen one in the UK) and condition.

As so many were made, trying to piece together the production history and neatly put different versions into their respective boxes might not be straightforward. When you're making millions of something, machine tools wear out, components are sourced from different places and while the assembly might be very highly quality controlled, variants of components that fit the same are likely to get mixed up.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Cuthbert Quote
Ok then it was the OEM lens for the KX and the K2? And does it perform? I've heard that it's a very good lens and I live 55 or 58 mm more than 50 mm.
They all perform quite well. It's not like the 18-55s today where many people look down on. Even the 50/2 is a very nice lens. Just like I need more than one K1000, I need more than one 50. Now that you have a K1000, you'll need the 55/1.8, 50/2, 50/1.7, and the 50/1.4.
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In those days cameras didn't come with a lens direct from the OEM.
Not quite. Yes, a dealer could and would sell body-only bundled with a third-party lens and it was often enough done that way. That being said, the bodies were offered as a kit by Asahi in various versions just like today. My KX was offered with the K 55/1.8, K 50/1.4, and K 50/1.2. The K1000 was offered as a kit with various f/2 lenses.

As for the B&H pricing from 1991...the various offerings from that dealer, I don't see the standard kit, only the pricing for that dealer's bundles.


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QuoteOriginally posted by gofour3 Quote
Yes the K55/1.8 is a great lens and has the exact same optics as the K55/2.

When I bought my KX back in 1975 I choose the K55/1.8 because it was the least expensive standard lens and I also bought the K28/3.5 & K135/3.5.
The Pentax camera bodies were sold separately. You also got to choose the finish of black or chrome and the type of focusing screen, which were micro prism or split screen.

Example the list prices in Canadian for the standard lenses were:

K50/1.2 = $299.95
K50/1.4 = $199.95
K55/1.8 = $124.95

When the K1000 & K55/2 were released in 1976 they were an official Pentax kit and not something the camera store put together.

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Not quite. Yes, a dealer could and would sell body-only bundled with a third-party lens and it was often enough done that way. That being said, the bodies were offered as a kit by Asahi in various versions just like today. My KX was offered with the K 55/1.8, K 50/1.4, and K 50/1.2. The K1000 was offered as a kit with various f/2 lenses.

As for the B&H pricing from 1991...the various offerings from that dealer, I don't see the standard kit, only the pricing for that dealer's bundles.


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They all perform quite well. It's not like the 18-55s today where many people look down on. Even the 50/2 is a very nice lens. Just like I need more than one K1000, I need more than one 50. Now that you have a K1000, you'll need the 55/1.8, 50/2, 50/1.7, and the 50/1.4.
Well the camera hasn't arrived yet, but I was wondering if I need another Pentax, perhaps it is worth looking at the less fortunate sisters, like the KM and the K2...it seems that they offered a little more than the K1000 but they received not quite the same love.

On the other side at my desk I received this book:



I'm at work and I haven't had the time to read it at the moment, but I understand that these manuals for students also enhanced the popularity of the K1000.

P.S. At my desk I also received from Ukraine a Zenit 19, that weirdly recalls the K1000 or better the KM for what I understand...I should stop watching evilbay.

QuoteOriginally posted by johnha Quote
It depends on what you want the camera for? If it's to shoot with, it doesn't really make a difference, even the 'plastic' (none Asahi) ones are well built, and being newer more likely to be in better condition. More important is the choice between the standard & SE models (the SE has the split image focus aid apparently - I've not seen one in the UK) and condition.

As so many were made, trying to piece together the production history and neatly put different versions into their respective boxes might not be straightforward. When you're making millions of something, machine tools wear out, components are sourced from different places and while the assembly might be very highly quality controlled, variants of components that fit the same are likely to get mixed up.
I need the camera to shoot of course, but I was curious to know more about the long history of this model and the differences between the various models because it seems there is no reliable data on the matter. They all seem to be sturdy and well made cameras, even the "plastic" Chinese models.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Cuthbert Quote
On the other side at my desk I received this book:
I love it! The P3/30N (the famous Pentax "NEd" camera) receives second billing!


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(...real fan of the P3N...too bad it requires DX-encoded film...)
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QuoteOriginally posted by Cuthbert Quote
Well the camera hasn't arrived yet...
I hate waiting for new toys to arrive. I make a practice of reading the camera manual once or twice while waiting for them to arrive. If you don't have the K1000 manual, here it is: http://www.lensinc.net/manuals/Pentax_K1000L.pdf

QuoteOriginally posted by Cuthbert Quote
...but I was wondering if I need another Pentax, perhaps it is worth looking at the less fortunate sisters, like the KM and the K2...it seems that they offered a little more than the K1000 but they received not quite the same love...
You always need another Pentax. The KX and K2 receive quite a bit of love around here. I've owned every K-series body and the only one I sold was the K2, but I would never sell my K2 DMD. Of all the K-series bodies you'll find your own favorite, but mine have always been the K1000 and the K2 DMD.

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...and speaking of my K1000s and K2 DMDs, here they are (I haven't photographed my other K2 DMD yet):




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Ok. So I just won an auction for a Made in Japan K1000, 75xxxx serial, with a K 55/2 & a Sigma 28/2.8 XQ.

$40.00 plus shipping. I do need serious help. I have 2 K1000s already...and a K 55/1.8. Not to mention the SMC Tak 55/1.8 and Super Tak 55/2 and an Auto Tak 55/1.8?..

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I do need serious help.
Admitting you have a problem is the first step.


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Admitting you have a problem is the first step.


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What problem? I'd say congratulations on a great deal. Something like that for $40 has me browsing for something similar.
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What problem? I'd say congratulations on a great deal. Something like that for $40 has me browsing for something similar.
I lost a Spotmatic with a S-M-C Tak 28/3.5 earlier in the day because the bidding went to $61. I lost out on a Vivitar 28/2 in M42 the day before. The one that really hurt was losing the Ricoh XR-S with a Pentax M 50/1.4 on Sunday. I maxed out at $75 and it went for $76. Shopgoodwill just doesn't have the deals it did a couple of years ago...
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Love the K series love on this thread. My three cousins featured in the image above.
The 1000 is carrying the Zenitar 16 - if you aren't careful you end up taking pigs with your shoes in them.
The. K2 has the M40 2.8- almost pocketable
The KX has the Vivitar CF 28.2.8 - K02





K2 with Zenitar scanned and converted in PS 5

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