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02-14-2014, 01:43 PM   #1
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Asahiflex H2

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Are there anyone who knows about the number of cameras that were produced and marked as Ashiflex and sold in South Africa? I also found an ad that states it was named Asahiflex also in Finland.


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Axahiflex was Asahi Optical's single lens reflex preceding the Pentax. It had a waist level viewfinder. The name was world wide. In 1957 they put a Pentaprism on it, enlarged the mount to M42-1 and called it the Pentax.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Canada_Rockies Quote
The name was world wide.
except the US where it was sold by Sears under the Tower brand name.
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No, I believe Baard is asking about this type of Asahiflex ( from a recent eBay sale ):

Asahiflex H2 H 2 Asahi Pentax S2 55 2 Takumar RARE for South African Market | eBay

I saw this ad and someone else was quicker than I to hit the button!

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QuoteOriginally posted by Moe49 Quote
No, I believe Baard is asking about this type of Asahiflex ( from a recent eBay sale ):

Asahiflex H2 H 2 Asahi Pentax S2 55 2 Takumar RARE for South African Market | eBay

I saw this and someone was quicker than me to hit the button!
The Contax trademark was still recognized by South Africa, so no Pentax for Asahi there...
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Thanks, Boriscleto - I did not know that one. Definitely a pentaprism on that one. Thanks.
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QuoteOriginally posted by boriscleto Quote
The Contax trademark was still recognized by South Africa, so no Pentax for Asahi there...


According to Screwmount, Pentax was registered by Pentacon in South Africa so Pentax used Asahiflex or Pentar (not Pentax). Pictures in there too.


I have no idea about the numbers though.

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No, I believe Baard is asking about this type of Asahiflex ( from a recent eBay sale ):

Asahiflex H2 H 2 Asahi Pentax S2 55 2 Takumar RARE for South African Market | eBay

I saw this ad and someone else was quicker than me to hit the button!
Well, It might have been I who got that one.... There was one up for auction last week as well, that one went for more than 500USD.

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Here is the ad where it states that Asahi Pentax H2 (mainly in Europe) (or even Asahi Pentax S2 (Japan, Europe), as well as Heiland Pentax H2 (US market)) was branded Asahiflex H2 in south Africa, Finland and some other markets.

Does anyone have any other documentation about this?
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QuoteOriginally posted by LesDMess Quote
According to Screwmount, Pentax was registered by Pentacon in South Africa so Pentax used Asahiflex or Pentar (not Pentax). Pictures in there too.


I have no idea about the numbers though.
QuoteOriginally posted by Baard-Einar Quote
Here is the ad where it states that Asahi Pentax H2 (mainly in Europe) (or even Asahi Pentax S2 (Japan, Europe), as well as Heiland Pentax H2 (US market)) was branded Asahiflex H2 in south Africa, Finland and some other markets.

Does anyone have any other documentation about this?
Asahi acquired the Pentax trademark in 1957, two years before Pentacon was formed. At the end of WWII all German trademarks and patents were voided by the Allies. But some countries, like South Africa and Finland, continued to recognize them. Pentacon was formed from the merger of several Dresden camera manufacturers, including VEB Kamerawerke Freital which had originally been Contax Zeiss Ikon Kamerawerke of Dresden.
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Asahi acquired the Pentax trademark in 1957, two years before Pentacon was formed. At the end of WWII all German trademarks and patents were voided by the Allies. But some countries, like South Africa and Finland, continued to recognize them. Pentacon was formed from the merger of several Dresden camera manufacturers, including VEB Kamerawerke Freital which had originally been Contax Zeiss Ikon Kamerawerke of Dresden.
Thanks, that was useful information
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This came up on ebay and was sold for a nice price, AU $870

Note the text on the prism Penta Asahiflex

Never seen this before. Can anyone shed some light on this?
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They had to use Asahiflex in some countries early on due to a claim on the name Pentax by a German company (I forget which. That's why South African bodies, for instance, are called Pentars.

I would assume this to be a fairly rare bird.
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They had to use Asahiflex in some countries early on due to a claim on the name Pentax by a German company (I forget which. That's why South African bodies, for instance, are called Pentars.

I would assume this to be a fairly rare bird.
The model called S or K was sold as Pentar in South Africa. The model S2 was sold as Asahiflex in South Africa and some other markets. This was due to the fact that Pentax was already a registered trademark of Pentacon of East Germany.

But a camera marked Penta Asahiflex is really rare. I found one sold at Christies auction i 1998(!) for USD948 (!!!). And then this one that I posted about yesterday that came for sale at ebay that also was sold for a high price.

There is a Asahiflex H2 for sale now on eBay, without the Word Penta.
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