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06-02-2015, 05:21 PM   #1
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Hi all, new guy here (sorry I've been lurking for a while).


I came across this camera that is mechanically identical to the K1000 except it has a self timer like the KM. The meter is different in that it has 3 LED's in the viewfinder, a green LED indicating good exposure and a red LED above and below showing + and -.


It came with a Helios 44-K-4 58mm lens. Any thoughts on where it was made and by whom?

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06-02-2015, 05:48 PM   #2
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As you may know in its final years of production the Pentax K1000 was manufactured in China.
Rumor has it that after production ceased the original tooling was left behind and used by the Chinese to produce various SLR models.
If the camera body pictured is one of these it is probably the most "K1000-like" clone I have seen...

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06-02-2015, 05:56 PM   #3
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Do you have photos of the back, bottom, and insides?

I won't lie, if I saw that in a store I'd get my credit card.

I suspect Chris' idea is correct and that it was a post-K1000 production run body made from the tooling. The KM, when it was produced, used the same basic parts as the K1000, so adding a self timer in later wouldn't be hard for a production facility.
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Curious there isn't a badge of any sort. Is there any identifying features on the camera at all, (serial #, Made In China etc).

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QuoteOriginally posted by Scanogram Quote
The meter is different in that it has 3 LED's in the viewfinder, a green LED indicating good exposure and a red LED above and below showing + and -.
What you describe sounds familiar, though its heritage would not be traced to the K1000. IIRC, these were Asahi/Pentax prototypes for a LED-driven manual exposure display such as in the MX. As noted above, photographs of the bottom, top, and camera interior would be helpful. It would also be nice to see the battery holder (1 vs. 2 cells)


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QuoteOriginally posted by K David Quote
I suspect Chris' idea is correct and that it was a post-K1000 production run body made from the tooling.
I thought the Chinese K1000 were primarily plastic top/bottom plates. The camera above is definitely metal.


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06-03-2015, 04:36 AM   #8
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Here's some more pictures. It does have all metal covers and uses 2 batteries.

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Well, fascinating. That's not a battery chamber housing I've seen on a Pentax before, but the internals look like a K. And the light meter sounds like an MG or MV.

I'm guessing that you either have a between-line prototype, a pre-production body of some sort, or a really off-brand Chinese make using the old Pentax tooling and the light meters found in the Nikon FM10, Chinon, and other modern manual-focus SLRs being made in China still today.
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QuoteOriginally posted by K David Quote
And the light meter sounds like an MG or MV.
Except that both those models are Av only. The heritage here is definitely K-series, though highly unlikely to be K1000 IMHO. Both the top and bottom plates are obviously custom pressings. A full top view would be real nice, but that one is still missing. There have been a few other similar no-name prototypes with known provenance posted on this site, though finding the threads might be difficult.


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The K1000 was tools were sold to China and sold in the chinese market as MINGCA MC K1000. It was sold in large quantities but not often seen outside China.

Picture from Bosses really nice site Pentax K 1975-1997 - www.pentax-slr.com
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Here's a view of the top. Also with top cover removed and a regular K1000 for reference.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Baard-Einar Quote
The K1000 was tools were sold to China and sold in the chinese market as MINGCA MC K1000. It was sold in large quantities but not often seen outside China.

Picture from Bosses really nice site Pentax K 1975-1997 - www.pentax-slr.com
Thanks for the link!
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QuoteOriginally posted by Baard-Einar Quote
The K1000 was tools were sold to China and sold in the chinese market as MINGCA MC K1000. It was sold in large quantities but not often seen outside China.

Picture from Bosses really nice site Pentax K 1975-1997 - www.pentax-slr.com

From looking at the Mingca, it looks like my camera came out of the same factory.
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IMO it's quite obviously based on the Pentax K1000 - the resemblance is uncanny.
I have seen photos of the "Mingca MC K1000" before, but always in black paint.

FWIW many manual exposure cameras from the 1980's onward used a
3 LED meter readout powered by two 1.5V 44/76/357 button batteries.

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