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04-15-2016, 10:52 AM - 2 Likes   #1
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K1000 -- k100?

If you're on the Pentaxians FB group, you may have seen these photos, but here's an odd K1000 body I picked up the other day.









Aside from the designation, this looks like a MiHK K1000. SN, screws, and other details all align with HK bodies. It has a metal film rewind spool and the AOCO logo on the prism. Everything on it works. There's no sign of the space for the third zero having been tampered with. The smart money right now is on this being a mis-engraved body that snuck past the QC team. If anyone has any ideas on this or has seen one before, it would be great to hear about it.

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That's quite the collector's item you've got there!
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Maybe the engraver broke and they said "Screw it, it looks good enough. No one will notice the missing 0..."
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QuoteOriginally posted by bertwert Quote
Maybe the engraver broke
Last one in the crate before it ships to the sellers. Internals check out fine. QC passed on functions. Who cares?

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A very early prototype of the K100 DSLR?

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---------- Post added 04-15-16 at 11:39 AM ----------

It also could be a replacement top cover that was mislabelled:

Pentax Asahi K1000 aog Top Cover | eBay

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The internals match MiHK bodies.
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"Centon K100"

After Pentax stopped manufacture of the K1000 apparently the Chinese used
some of the tooling and production lines to make some very similar cameras.

One of the K1000-based models was the Centon K100, pictured here:



The appearance is different though quite clearly it is based on the K1000.

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I would be very tempted to buy a Centon 100 as a cheap beginner film camera (if I didn't already have so many film bodies). Among other things, that front grip looks like it would be a bit more ergonomic for my hands than the K1000. Of course there is the workmanship issue you are taking a gamble on...
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I'm pretty sure the Centon is very different from a K1000. I would bet that not even a screw is interchangeable.
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QuoteOriginally posted by pentaxus Quote
I'm pretty sure the Centon is very different from a K1000. I would bet that not even a screw is interchangeable.
Probably true, but I think it might also be safe to say that the K1000 is where Centon learned to build cameras. As basic film cameras go, it's not a bad model to copy.
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QuoteOriginally posted by pentaxus Quote
I'm pretty sure the Centon is very different from a K1000. I would bet that not even a screw is interchangeable.
I believe that the Centon has the Cosina CT-1 as its root.


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Well, I shot a message to Ricoh and some photos. So, hopefully they have someone there who has some ideas. If not, then there's not a whole lot else for me to do to find out if this was a one-off error or part of a small batch, or what.
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Well, Ricoh never responded. So it looks like my only lead is a guess that it's a mis-engraved copy that slipped by QC. None of the camera repair people, including Eric, had ever seen anything like this. They did all comment in some fashion that it's probably rare.
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QuoteOriginally posted by K David Quote
Well, Ricoh never responded. So it looks like my only lead is a guess that it's a mis-engraved copy that slipped by QC. None of the camera repair people, including Eric, had ever seen anything like this. They did all comment in some fashion that it's probably rare.
Yep I think you have a unique camera there.

Ricoh is not very good in responding to Pentax historical questions. I emailed them once about a "Pentax Imaging" web page they nuked and never heard back. This page had Pentax historical release dates and was a great source of info, it was a shame Ricoh decided to delete it and many others that Pentax Imaging (Hoya) had. Frankly I don't think Ricoh cares at all about Pentax's past.

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