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08-01-2016, 08:27 AM   #1
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Help starting with film

Hey guys, I want to start a hobby in a hobby, being that hobby, film, I shoot manual most of the time, I have a few old lenses, I learned with those, and I still enjoy using them, I enjoy them so much in fact, that I would like to try my luck with film, being already a Pentax owner, could you guys help me choosing a camera, and maybe more important share what I should stay away from?
Thinking on a K1000, but I feel the price is a bit high,due to the "status"...

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I would suggest getting one that is fully functional unless you have good service available to you. Any of the following manual K mounts like the KM, KX, K2, MX, LX or perhaps the Ricohs like the XR series depending on what features you want/need and the price you're willing to pay.

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Re: Help starting with film

QuoteOriginally posted by Nuno Almeida Quote
Hey guys, I want to start a hobby in a hobby, being that hobby, film, I shoot manual most of the time, I have a few old lenses, I learned with those, and I still enjoy using them, I enjoy them so much in fact, that I would like to try my luck with film, being already a Pentax owner, could you guys help me choosing a camera, and maybe more important share what I should stay away from?
Thinking on a K1000, but I feel the price is a bit high,due to the "status"...
You can get a used K1000 for under $100. You can get more features in a less iconic camera like an MX or ME Super for similar prices. If you want the end-all be-all of Pentax manual cameras, you can probably find an LX for $200-$300.
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My favorite film camera for Pentax is the PZ-1 (or Z-1) or the variant PZ-1p (Z-1p). However that is an autofocus camera with mild motor drive built in etc. That may not be what you want. If that isn't then the MX, followed by the ME Super, followed by the K series bodies would be my choice. The LX is absolutely the ultimate manual focus body but the prices are still at a premium. The MX is likely tougher and hence my recommendation. As mentioned above the camera will need to have had a recent CLA to ensure light seals are good, shutter is calibrated, etc.

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The K1000 would be a great body to start your film adventure.
The KM is nearly identical with a couple of useful extra features i.e. depth-of-field preview and self-timer.
Despite the additional features the KM often costs less than the K1000.

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Some while back I got a Ricoh XR7 and a matching Sears KS-2 (same camera, only sold under the Sears label) off eBay for nearly nothing. I had to replace the old foam seals in the back, which is not difficult, and then I put them into service. They are very solid cameras with some nice features, they work with readily available batteries, and they do accept Pentax K-mount lenses.
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For film, if you're looking for something on the cheap side to try, take a look at Kentmere B&W film on Adorama, the 100 ISO is $2.95 & the 400 ISO is $3.95
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For film, if you're looking for something on the cheap side to try, take a look at Kentmere B&W film on Adorama, the 100 ISO is $2.95 & the 400 ISO is $3.95
Thank you, but I live in Europe.

And thank you all, at the moment the ME Super is looking good, time to attack Ebay.

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KM or Spotmatic F get my vote, more than the ME Super IMO.
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KM or Spotmatic F get my vote, more than the ME Super IMO.
May I ask why?
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May I ask why?
They are totally manual, the lightmeter just requires a small battery you can find anywhere, they are sturdy and easy to use, unlike the K1000 they have DOF preview and selftimer (that I use as a replacement for the cable on the tripod).

Plus they usually come with a 55mm f1.8 lens that is one of the best of their era,and for less than 100 euros.

Isn't it enough?
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Another option is the KX, it's fully manual and has a nice metering system.

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They are totally manual, the lightmeter just requires a small battery you can find anywhere, they are sturdy and easy to use, unlike the K1000 they have DOF preview and selftimer (that I use as a replacement for the cable on the tripod).

Plus they usually come with a 55mm f1.8 lens that is one of the best of their era,and for less than 100 euros.

Isn't it enough?
Thank you, I would prefer to stay with the K mount, has I already have lenses for it, and can always convert from m42 to K.
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The ME super is fully manual as well as Aperture preferred (if desired). It is electronic in controls and uses two A76 batteries. It is smaller and lighter than the K1000 but does lack a depth of field preview option. It is one of the highest rated manual focus K mount cameras in the Pentax Forums database at 8.87. The KX, MX, and LX are some of the ones that are rated higher.

Pentax ME Super - Pentax Manual Focus Film SLRs - Pentax Camera Reviews and Specifications
Pentax ME Super Review

I'm totally clueless why the hate is directed so little love is given to at this great camera - the K1000 and variants of it are much less sophisticated. I guess the concerns may be about the long term reliability of the electronics package that controls shutter speed? In any case - I think it is a lovely camera - think Nikon FE but Pentax style.

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QuoteOriginally posted by UncleVanya Quote
The ME super is fully manual as well as Aperture preferred (if desired). It is electronic in controls and uses two A76 batteries. It is smaller and lighter than the K1000 but does lack a depth of field preview option. It is one of the highest rated manual focus K mount cameras in the Pentax Forums database at 8.87. The KX, MX, and LX are some of the ones that are rated higher.

Pentax ME Super - Pentax Manual Focus Film SLRs - Pentax Camera Reviews and Specifications
Pentax ME Super Review

I'm totally clueless why the hate is directed at this great camera - the K1000 and variants of it are much less sophisticated. I guess the concerns may be about the long term reliability of the electronics package that controls shutter speed? In any case - I think it is a lovely camera - think Nikon FE but Pentax style.
I don't think it is hate just more reliable so more expensive. Personally I never use depth of field or self timer anyway.
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