Show us your grain!

Jonson PL · 12-20-2008, 03:11 PM

Originally posted by Lowell Goudge

Just a small observation here.

The way you have re-posted these images is from copies in your own site. I am not sure forum members will appreciate you posting these elsewhere (image shack) without credit and implying that they are your images.

I had no trouble with it. Was kinda proud that he had chosen one of mine. Besides, they were pictures from the thread, so people could easily see that they wasn't his. So I can't see that he was taking credit for the images, quite the contrary

jgredline · 12-20-2008, 08:36 PM

jgredline · 12-20-2008, 08:40 PM

k100d · 12-20-2008, 09:46 PM

press 800, no clue about the shutter or aperture, probably wide open

**dadipentak** · 12-20-2008, 10:05 PM

like this?

**dadipentak** · 12-20-2008, 10:10 PM

how about this?

Wombat · 12-21-2008, 12:35 AM

Originally posted by Jonson PL

I had no trouble with it. Was kinda proud that he had chosen one of mine. Besides, they were pictures from the thread, so people could easily see that they wasn't his. So I can't see that he was taking credit for the images, quite the contrary

Likewise. I'm sure there was no intention to deceive.

Wombat · 12-21-2008, 12:40 AM

Originally posted by dadipentak

how about this?

That's so grainy you could just about bake it and serve it up with lashings of butter and wild honey!

Jonson PL · 12-21-2008, 04:15 AM

Originally posted by jgredline

Very strong image

jgredline · 12-23-2008, 09:17 AM

Originally posted by Jonson PL

Very strong image

Thank you very much. !

**Lowell Goudge** · 12-23-2008, 09:26 AM

Originally posted by Jonson PL

I had no trouble with it. Was kinda proud that he had chosen one of mine. Besides, they were pictures from the thread, so people could easily see that they wasn't his. So I can't see that he was taking credit for the images, quite the contrary

Just to clarify, I have no objection in the thread of reposting stuff that was already posted, by placing links in the thread back to the origonal post or what ever, and like you, I was somewhat pleased that one of mine was also in the grouping.

In fact, I had seen this for several days before I commented, as at that point I thought he had just quoted / pasted links to past forum images.

I only commented because I happened to click on one of the images he had reposted, and got taken to another site totally where these were posted without any credits / comments as his images. That was the real objection.

He has since removed them and I accept that he had not intended to claim credit, but there are many forum members who have posted threads about the ownership of images and taken a really hard line about protecting their rights of ownership. I am not usually one of those, as I post in reduced resolution when ever I post, and consider myself a hobbiest, not someone who is looking to move into photography to earn income, but there are many that are.

jgredline · 12-23-2008, 09:45 AM

Originally posted by Lowell Goudge

Just to clarify, I have no objection in the thread of reposting stuff that was already posted, by placing links in the thread back to the origonal post or what ever, and like you, I was somewhat pleased that one of mine was also in the grouping.

In fact, I had seen this for several days before I commented, as at that point I thought he had just quoted / pasted links to past forum images.

I only commented because I happened to click on one of the images he had reposted, and got taken to another site totally where these were posted without any credits / comments as his images. That was the real objection.

He has since removed them and I accept that he had not intended to claim credit, but there are many forum members who have posted threads about the ownership of images and taken a really hard line about protecting their rights of ownership. I am not usually one of those, as I post in reduced resolution when ever I post, and consider myself a hobbiest, not someone who is looking to move into photography to earn income, but there are many that are.

Folks
Really I did not take offense as I fully understand where Lowell is coming from.. I know my intentions so I am at peace with it. Heck I do not even watermark my images...

But if I can use two examples as to why I understand.
In another forum I post in there was a Macro contest and one guy started to post up these amazing images of insects. it turns out that another member recognized them and called him on it. When he denied it and insisted they where his, it just got ugly from there. Turns out the fellow stole them from art wolfes photo site. Can you imaging stealing photos from art wolfe and claiming them as yours? By the way to be clear, it was NOT art wolfe who caught him, but one of the many who follow his work..

A second example is that I ran into a competitor of mine who stole pictures from my company website to put them on his own website..That's nerve..When I called him on it, he quickly removed them, but who knows how many customers he stole from us with my images...

So I do understand where Lowell is coming from and will be more careful on how I re post images in the future...One thing for sure, I can really appreciate good photographs and can't contain my joy on many of them, so I comment.

vitalsax · 12-23-2008, 05:59 PM

jgredline · 12-23-2008, 11:16 PM

A few strangers caught on film. ''Literally''

jgredline · 12-23-2008, 11:20 PM

Here are some color film images. Kodak hi def 400

And a stranger,

12-20-2008, 10:05 PM	#80
dadipentak Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,590	Grain! like this? Attached Images

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jgredline Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: LosAngeles, Ca. Photos: Albums Posts: 10,628	Here are some color film images. Kodak hi def 400 And a stranger, Last edited by jgredline; 01-19-2009 at 04:30 PM.

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12-20-2008, 03:11 PM	#76
Jonson PL Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Copenhagen Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,842	Originally posted by Lowell Goudge Just a small observation here. The way you have re-posted these images is from copies in your own site. I am not sure forum members will appreciate you posting these elsewhere (image shack) without credit and implying that they are your images. I had no trouble with it. Was kinda proud that he had chosen one of mine. Besides, they were pictures from the thread, so people could easily see that they wasn't his. So I can't see that he was taking credit for the images, quite the contrary

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12-20-2008, 08:40 PM	#78
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12-20-2008, 09:46 PM	#79
k100d Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 3,911	press 800, no clue about the shutter or aperture, probably wide open

12-21-2008, 12:35 AM	#82
Wombat Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: South Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 901	Originally posted by Jonson PL I had no trouble with it. Was kinda proud that he had chosen one of mine. Besides, they were pictures from the thread, so people could easily see that they wasn't his. So I can't see that he was taking credit for the images, quite the contrary Likewise. I'm sure there was no intention to deceive.

12-21-2008, 12:40 AM	#83
Wombat Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: South Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 901	Originally posted by dadipentak how about this? That's so grainy you could just about bake it and serve it up with lashings of butter and wild honey!

12-21-2008, 04:15 AM	#84
Jonson PL Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Copenhagen Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,842	Originally posted by jgredline Very strong image

12-23-2008, 09:17 AM	#85
jgredline Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: LosAngeles, Ca. Photos: Albums Posts: 10,628	Originally posted by Jonson PL Very strong image Thank you very much. !

12-23-2008, 09:26 AM	#86
Lowell Goudge Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,886	Originally posted by Jonson PL I had no trouble with it. Was kinda proud that he had chosen one of mine. Besides, they were pictures from the thread, so people could easily see that they wasn't his. So I can't see that he was taking credit for the images, quite the contrary Just to clarify, I have no objection in the thread of reposting stuff that was already posted, by placing links in the thread back to the origonal post or what ever, and like you, I was somewhat pleased that one of mine was also in the grouping. In fact, I had seen this for several days before I commented, as at that point I thought he had just quoted / pasted links to past forum images. I only commented because I happened to click on one of the images he had reposted, and got taken to another site totally where these were posted without any credits / comments as his images. That was the real objection. He has since removed them and I accept that he had not intended to claim credit, but there are many forum members who have posted threads about the ownership of images and taken a really hard line about protecting their rights of ownership. I am not usually one of those, as I post in reduced resolution when ever I post, and consider myself a hobbiest, not someone who is looking to move into photography to earn income, but there are many that are.

12-23-2008, 09:45 AM	#87
jgredline Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: LosAngeles, Ca. Photos: Albums Posts: 10,628	Originally posted by Lowell Goudge Just to clarify, I have no objection in the thread of reposting stuff that was already posted, by placing links in the thread back to the origonal post or what ever, and like you, I was somewhat pleased that one of mine was also in the grouping. In fact, I had seen this for several days before I commented, as at that point I thought he had just quoted / pasted links to past forum images. I only commented because I happened to click on one of the images he had reposted, and got taken to another site totally where these were posted without any credits / comments as his images. That was the real objection. He has since removed them and I accept that he had not intended to claim credit, but there are many forum members who have posted threads about the ownership of images and taken a really hard line about protecting their rights of ownership. I am not usually one of those, as I post in reduced resolution when ever I post, and consider myself a hobbiest, not someone who is looking to move into photography to earn income, but there are many that are. Folks Really I did not take offense as I fully understand where Lowell is coming from.. I know my intentions so I am at peace with it. Heck I do not even watermark my images... But if I can use two examples as to why I understand. In another forum I post in there was a Macro contest and one guy started to post up these amazing images of insects. it turns out that another member recognized them and called him on it. When he denied it and insisted they where his, it just got ugly from there. Turns out the fellow stole them from art wolfes photo site. Can you imaging stealing photos from art wolfe and claiming them as yours? By the way to be clear, it was NOT art wolfe who caught him, but one of the many who follow his work.. A second example is that I ran into a competitor of mine who stole pictures from my company website to put them on his own website..That's nerve..When I called him on it, he quickly removed them, but who knows how many customers he stole from us with my images... So I do understand where Lowell is coming from and will be more careful on how I re post images in the future...One thing for sure, I can really appreciate good photographs and can't contain my joy on many of them, so I comment.

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12-23-2008, 11:16 PM	#89
jgredline Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: LosAngeles, Ca. Photos: Albums Posts: 10,628	A few strangers caught on film. ''Literally''