You May Only Keep One

officiousbystander · 06-08-2017, 03:17 AM

This will be an unfashionable response and will also rely on the proviso that it's not going to break, but I'd go with the ME Super because it's so small and fun and was the family camera of my childhood. I'd team it with the K24 3.5 because it's gloriously sharp, contrasty enough on film, and going wide makes every shot interesting.

pathdoc · 06-08-2017, 03:52 AM

Originally posted by Xmas

Use an auto Tukmar its single coating flashes shadows adaptively to compress scenes, soften toe contrast and pastel colours, Cosina still make single coated lenses for this!

No! No more cameras and no more lenses! I have enough! Begone, thou LBA demon, begone!

(On a more serious note, I have no Auto Takumars but I do have a couple of Super Taks, and my 55/2.0 is among my favourite lenses for anything.)

ripper2860 · 06-08-2017, 06:42 AM

Ooooooh. Forgot about the Auto-Tak 85/1.9. Is there a lens swap-out window?

g026r · 06-08-2017, 08:06 AM

Originally posted by Swift1

I debated between the 2, and I feel (for me) the 90/2.8 is more versatile... but I could go either way.

For me, it was that I've only ever used the leaf shutter 90/2.8, so I don't really have a reference point for the regular version. Though choosing the 105 would probably limit me to black & white, since that lens goes yellow easily.

pathdoc · 06-08-2017, 08:20 AM

Originally posted by g026r

Though choosing the 105 would probably limit me to black & white, since that lens goes yellow easily.

If you scan and dabble in post, there are easy ways around that. If we are talking about wet printing only, probably not so much; some fancy filter work might be required at the colour print stage, and here I am waaaaaaay out of my depth.

Eyewanders · 06-08-2017, 10:07 AM

Original post... Edited. (Sorry for the delay. Was on the road a lot of yesterday.

)

Originally posted by Swift1

I thought about that combo, but I have never used the 75/2.8 so don't know if I would like it.

I haven't either, but I've seen enough examples and read enough comparisons that I feel comfortable plunging in - as much as I truly adore the 75/4.0, the extra stops would be welcome since this is hypothetical. As it is, given the price of the 75/2.8, I may never bother.

---------- Post added 06-08-17 at 10:09 AM ----------

Originally posted by pathdoc

Important questions:

1) Must we choose a body and lens in our current possession?

2) Are we allowed to assume that the camera WILL continue to function and that batteries (if rare) WILL continue to be available?

1) No.
2) No.

---------- Post added 06-08-17 at 10:11 AM ----------

Originally posted by Swift1

I debated between the 2, and I feel (for me) the 90/2.8 is more versatile... but I could go either way.

That would be my thought as well... which is actually why I went down yet another length, as much as I love the 105, it can be limiting.

---------- Post added 06-08-17 at 10:14 AM ----------

Originally posted by nickthetasmaniac

Assuming this is a perfect world where things never break...

LX, M28/f2 and Kodak 400TMAX

Assuming this is not a perfect world and things do break...

As above, but swap the LX for an MX - manual goodness

Yeah, my thinking for the OP was that it is NOT a perfect world. If it were, I'd go with the LX as well.

Robin CB · 06-08-2017, 10:48 AM

ME Super and a nifty fifty (1.8 for the fun of it) - just because I know what I am doing with it (or at least I think I remember what to do with it - must get it out again)

Eyewanders · 06-08-2017, 01:02 PM

Originally posted by g026r

For me, it was that I've only ever used the leaf shutter 90/2.8, so I don't really have a reference point for the regular version. Though choosing the 105 would probably limit me to black & white, since that lens goes yellow easily.

The 90/2.8 is way underrated. Hard to shine in the 105 shadow. I'd say it's definitely more versatile. That said, my VERY yellowed Tak 105 affected color not at all perceptiably so anyhow) even before I went to the trouble of de-yellowing it.

AquaDome · 06-08-2017, 05:14 PM - **1 Like**

From cameras I own? MZ-S with FA43/1.9

I'm also keeping my 645N with manual focus 75mm because its medium format and doesn't count.

jtkratzer · 06-08-2017, 05:23 PM

Never shot a 6x7 camera...Maybe the 645n and A35 or KX and either 28/3.5 or 35/3.5. KX will likely outlive my LX.

**onlineflyer** · 06-08-2017, 06:36 PM - **2 Likes**

For me, it's the KX and 30mm f2.8. These were two of my first Pentax acquisitions and I still have both today, including boxes.

timw4mail · 06-08-2017, 07:10 PM

Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 50/1.4 and... an SLR with the light-meter as the only requirement for a battery.

(My first thought was Minolta SRT-101, but that requires a mercury battery. So closest I can think of now is Ricoh KR-5 Super.)

**RobA_Oz** · 06-08-2017, 07:17 PM

Originally posted by timw4mail

Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 50/1.4 and... an SLR with the light-meter as the only requirement for a battery.

(My first thought was Minolta SRT-101, but that requires a mercury battery. So closest I can think of now is Ricoh KR-5 Super.)

A Spotmatic-F, perhaps?

pathdoc · 06-09-2017, 03:45 AM

Originally posted by RobA_Oz

A Spotmatic-F, perhaps?

The only logical choice, as while the camera is powered, you have open-aperture metering. When it's not, then you're back in Sunny 16 land but at least with a full set of shutter speeds unequivocally available (something I'm not sure any of the ES models offer).

The only thing which competes, IMO, is a non-Pentax camera and lens (Fujica ST705 with an EBC Fujinon that still has the tab on, which is like a Spotmatic F in an MX-sized package), but that's off the table here.

timw4mail · 06-09-2017, 05:23 AM

Originally posted by RobA_Oz

A Spotmatic-F, perhaps?

Originally posted by pathdoc

The only logical choice, as while the camera is powered, you have open-aperture metering. When it's not, then you're back in Sunny 16 land but at least with a full set of shutter speeds unequivocally available (something I'm not sure any of the ES models offer).

The only thing which competes, IMO, is a non-Pentax camera and lens (Fujica ST705 with an EBC Fujinon that still has the tab on, which is like a Spotmatic F in an MX-sized package), but that's off the table here.

And here I was so used to stop-down metering that I was thinking K-mount cameras

06-08-2017, 10:07 AM	#36
Eyewanders Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Land of the Salish Sea Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,343 Original Poster	Original post... Edited. (Sorry for the delay. Was on the road a lot of yesterday. ) Originally posted by Swift1 I thought about that combo, but I have never used the 75/2.8 so don't know if I would like it. I haven't either, but I've seen enough examples and read enough comparisons that I feel comfortable plunging in - as much as I truly adore the 75/4.0, the extra stops would be welcome since this is hypothetical. As it is, given the price of the 75/2.8, I may never bother. ---------- Post added 06-08-17 at 10:09 AM ---------- Originally posted by pathdoc Important questions: 1) Must we choose a body and lens in our current possession? 2) Are we allowed to assume that the camera WILL continue to function and that batteries (if rare) WILL continue to be available? 1) No. 2) No. ---------- Post added 06-08-17 at 10:11 AM ---------- Originally posted by Swift1 I debated between the 2, and I feel (for me) the 90/2.8 is more versatile... but I could go either way. That would be my thought as well... which is actually why I went down yet another length, as much as I love the 105, it can be limiting. ---------- Post added 06-08-17 at 10:14 AM ---------- Originally posted by nickthetasmaniac Assuming this is a perfect world where things never break... LX, M28/f2 and Kodak 400TMAX Assuming this is not a perfect world and things do break... As above, but swap the LX for an MX - manual goodness Yeah, my thinking for the OP was that it is NOT a perfect world. If it were, I'd go with the LX as well. Last edited by Eyewanders; 06-08-2017 at 10:20 AM.

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06-08-2017, 03:17 AM	#31
officiousbystander Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Sydney Photos: Gallery Posts: 916	This will be an unfashionable response and will also rely on the proviso that it's not going to break, but I'd go with the ME Super because it's so small and fun and was the family camera of my childhood. I'd team it with the K24 3.5 because it's gloriously sharp, contrasty enough on film, and going wide makes every shot interesting.

06-08-2017, 03:52 AM	#32
pathdoc Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2015 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,381	Originally posted by Xmas Use an auto Tukmar its single coating flashes shadows adaptively to compress scenes, soften toe contrast and pastel colours, Cosina still make single coated lenses for this! No! No more cameras and no more lenses! I have enough! Begone, thou LBA demon, begone! (On a more serious note, I have no Auto Takumars but I do have a couple of Super Taks, and my 55/2.0 is among my favourite lenses for anything.)

06-08-2017, 06:42 AM	#33
ripper2860 Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 890	Ooooooh. Forgot about the Auto-Tak 85/1.9. Is there a lens swap-out window?

06-08-2017, 08:06 AM	#34
g026r Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,074	Originally posted by Swift1 I debated between the 2, and I feel (for me) the 90/2.8 is more versatile... but I could go either way. For me, it was that I've only ever used the leaf shutter 90/2.8, so I don't really have a reference point for the regular version. Though choosing the 105 would probably limit me to black & white, since that lens goes yellow easily.

06-08-2017, 08:20 AM	#35
pathdoc Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2015 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,381	Originally posted by g026r Though choosing the 105 would probably limit me to black & white, since that lens goes yellow easily. If you scan and dabble in post, there are easy ways around that. If we are talking about wet printing only, probably not so much; some fancy filter work might be required at the colour print stage, and here I am waaaaaaay out of my depth.

06-08-2017, 10:48 AM	#37
Robin CB Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Sussex Posts: 92	ME Super and a nifty fifty (1.8 for the fun of it) - just because I know what I am doing with it (or at least I think I remember what to do with it - must get it out again)

06-08-2017, 01:02 PM	#38
Eyewanders Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Land of the Salish Sea Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,343 Original Poster	Originally posted by g026r For me, it was that I've only ever used the leaf shutter 90/2.8, so I don't really have a reference point for the regular version. Though choosing the 105 would probably limit me to black & white, since that lens goes yellow easily. The 90/2.8 is way underrated. Hard to shine in the 105 shadow. I'd say it's definitely more versatile. That said, my VERY yellowed Tak 105 affected color not at all perceptiably so anyhow) even before I went to the trouble of de-yellowing it.

06-08-2017, 05:14 PM - 1 Like	#39
AquaDome Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: New Carlisle, IN Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,475	From cameras I own? MZ-S with FA43/1.9 I'm also keeping my 645N with manual focus 75mm because its medium format and doesn't count.

06-08-2017, 05:23 PM	#40
jtkratzer Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Lancaster County, Pa Posts: 963	Never shot a 6x7 camera...Maybe the 645n and A35 or KX and either 28/3.5 or 35/3.5. KX will likely outlive my LX.

06-08-2017, 06:36 PM - 2 Likes	#41
onlineflyer Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: NW Ohio Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,092	For me, it's the KX and 30mm f2.8. These were two of my first Pentax acquisitions and I still have both today, including boxes.

06-08-2017, 07:10 PM	#42
timw4mail Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Driving a Mirage Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,670	Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 50/1.4 and... an SLR with the light-meter as the only requirement for a battery. (My first thought was Minolta SRT-101, but that requires a mercury battery. So closest I can think of now is Ricoh KR-5 Super.)

06-08-2017, 07:17 PM	#43
RobA_Oz Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tasmania, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,209	Originally posted by timw4mail Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 50/1.4 and... an SLR with the light-meter as the only requirement for a battery. (My first thought was Minolta SRT-101, but that requires a mercury battery. So closest I can think of now is Ricoh KR-5 Super.) A Spotmatic-F, perhaps?

06-09-2017, 03:45 AM	#44
pathdoc Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2015 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,381	Originally posted by RobA_Oz A Spotmatic-F, perhaps? The only logical choice, as while the camera is powered, you have open-aperture metering. When it's not, then you're back in Sunny 16 land but at least with a full set of shutter speeds unequivocally available (something I'm not sure any of the ES models offer). The only thing which competes, IMO, is a non-Pentax camera and lens (Fujica ST705 with an EBC Fujinon that still has the tab on, which is like a Spotmatic F in an MX-sized package), but that's off the table here.

06-09-2017, 05:23 AM	#45
timw4mail Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Driving a Mirage Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,670	Originally posted by RobA_Oz A Spotmatic-F, perhaps? Originally posted by pathdoc The only logical choice, as while the camera is powered, you have open-aperture metering. When it's not, then you're back in Sunny 16 land but at least with a full set of shutter speeds unequivocally available (something I'm not sure any of the ES models offer). The only thing which competes, IMO, is a non-Pentax camera and lens (Fujica ST705 with an EBC Fujinon that still has the tab on, which is like a Spotmatic F in an MX-sized package), but that's off the table here. And here I was so used to stop-down metering that I was thinking K-mount cameras