You May Only Keep One

gabriel_bc · 06-11-2017, 05:25 PM

Originally posted by chickentender

I've an LX and M 50/1.2

You either have a K 50/1.2 or an A 50/1.2 - there was no 50/1.2 in the M series.

/Pentax pedant

ripper2860 · 06-11-2017, 05:52 PM

Originally posted by gabriel_bc

You either have a K 50/1.2 or an A 50/1.2 - there was no 50/1.2 in the M series.

/Pentax pedant

M 50/1:2 perhaps?

gabriel_bc · 06-11-2017, 09:13 PM

Originally posted by ripper2860

M 50/1:2 perhaps?

Good point - if I had a nickel for every M50/2 listed as a "1.2" on ebay...

Eyewanders · 06-11-2017, 10:14 PM

Originally posted by gabriel_bc

You either have a K 50/1.2 or an A 50/1.2 - there was no 50/1.2 in the M series.

/Pentax pedant

You are correct. It's a K - I do that with that lens a lot likely because I find it so much like the M-50/1.4 I had first and for many years, which its very similar to obviously, though certainly larger.

Actually for that matter now that I think about it, I've a K 24/2.8 as well which seems even more like an M series.... it's tiny.

gabriel_bc · 06-11-2017, 10:17 PM

Originally posted by chickentender

Actually for that matter now that I think about it, I've a K 24/2.8 as well which seems even more like an M series

Interestingly, there was no 24mm in the M series either - the K24/2.8 was held over instead.

AtitG · 06-12-2017, 03:32 AM - **1 Like**

I love my 67 with the 105mm, but the mz-L with a 40mm xs makes film photography so accessible. its the camera combo i bring most of the time.

Eyewanders · 06-12-2017, 09:43 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by gabriel_bc

Interestingly, there was no 24mm in the M series either - the K24/2.8 was held over instead.

Yes, that's what I meant. Likely already fit the bill for their M lineup intentions, seeing as it is so compact.

**monochrome** · 06-12-2017, 01:54 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by chickentender

Yes, that's what I meant. Likely already fit the bill for their M lineup intentions, seeing as it is so compact.

They actually carried over quite a number of K lenses into the M era in the USA catalog.

The MX manual lists 12 SMC primes (mostly ultra-wide and wide, plus K50/1.2 and K200/2.5), two K specialty lenses, the two reflexes and two K zooms. The MX manual shows 18 M primes, 7 M zooms and 2 M Macros.

The early M lenses manual actually has 18 K-Series primes and only 8 M primes. I didn't count the others, but there was no overlap. The mid M lens manual continues most of those K lenses, but a complete complement of M's.

I suspect much of that was a matter of running down inventory, and Japan may have been very different.

**gofour3** · 06-13-2017, 03:51 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by gabriel_bc

Interestingly, there was no 24mm in the M series either - the K24/2.8 was held over instead.

Originally posted by chickentender

I've a K 24/2.8 as well which seems even more like an M series.... it's tiny

The K24/2.8 was released during the "M" series years to replace the K24/3.5, but was was identified as a "K" lens most likely due to the 52mm filter thread.

Phil.

johnpentax · 06-17-2017, 09:33 PM - **1 Like**

An easy choice. A K1000 SE in brown leatherette. A totally practical camera, wondrous shutter sound and by far the most beautiful camera made. But which lens? I'd choose the K 55mm f1.8 for versatility but am enjoying experimenting with the K 105mm f2.8.

gutter rock · 06-20-2017, 07:27 PM

Been thinking about this as my Pentax collection needs a diet. LX would be first choice except I don't really trust them. It would come down to the most reliable so for me it is a contest between the KX and MX. In the end I vote MX because I have the winder for it and I like the viewfinder better. I will go with the M50 1.7 as my lens.

nickthetasmaniac · 06-20-2017, 07:40 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by gabriel_bc

Good point - if I had a nickel for every M50/2 listed as a "1.2" on ebay...

Ah, but then there's the rare and magical moments when a 50/f1.2 is listed as a 50/f2 and priced accordingly - we can dream

gabriel_bc · 06-21-2017, 12:03 AM

Originally posted by nickthetasmaniac

Ah, but then there's the rare and magical moments when a 50/f1.2 is listed as a 50/f2 and priced accordingly - we can dream

I picked up mine for $100 Canadian along with an ME Super. The camera is in need of a CLA, but I'm not complaining.

pathdoc · 06-21-2017, 03:43 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by gabriel_bc

I picked up mine for $100 Canadian along with an ME Super. The camera is in need of a CLA, but I'm not complaining.

No, I can see why not!

I have the Rikenon P (Tomioka?) 55/1.2, so a 50/1.2 K would be functionally redundant in my collection, but if I ever stumble across a 50/1.2 A at that price I think my K-1 would thank me. Now that I actually have a 1.2 in my collection, I can afford to bide my time.

gabriel_bc · 06-21-2017, 07:37 AM

Originally posted by pathdoc

No, I can see why not!

"I have a particular set of skills" - and in my case, I knew from the blurry, small photo that it was the K50/1.2 based on its relative size to the camera (it was mounted on the ME Super). I think the seller knew the camera was dead, but I obviously did not care at all.

Craigslist has been good to me - I also got my very nice FA20-35/4 locally for $350 (if memory serves) many years ago. That seller knew it was a good lens, but wasn't pricing it quite to where it might have been priced.

06-12-2017, 01:54 PM - 1 Like	#68
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by chickentender Yes, that's what I meant. Likely already fit the bill for their M lineup intentions, seeing as it is so compact. They actually carried over quite a number of K lenses into the M era in the USA catalog. The MX manual lists 12 SMC primes (mostly ultra-wide and wide, plus K50/1.2 and K200/2.5), two K specialty lenses, the two reflexes and two K zooms. The MX manual shows 18 M primes, 7 M zooms and 2 M Macros. The early M lenses manual actually has 18 K-Series primes and only 8 M primes. I didn't count the others, but there was no overlap. The mid M lens manual continues most of those K lenses, but a complete complement of M's. I suspect much of that was a matter of running down inventory, and Japan may have been very different. Last edited by monochrome; 06-12-2017 at 02:04 PM.

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06-11-2017, 05:25 PM	#61
gabriel_bc Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Langley, BC Photos: Gallery Posts: 550	Originally posted by chickentender I've an LX and M 50/1.2 You either have a K 50/1.2 or an A 50/1.2 - there was no 50/1.2 in the M series. /Pentax pedant

06-11-2017, 05:52 PM	#62
ripper2860 Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 890	Originally posted by gabriel_bc You either have a K 50/1.2 or an A 50/1.2 - there was no 50/1.2 in the M series. /Pentax pedant M 50/1:2 perhaps?

06-11-2017, 09:13 PM	#63
gabriel_bc Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Langley, BC Photos: Gallery Posts: 550	Originally posted by ripper2860 M 50/1:2 perhaps? Good point - if I had a nickel for every M50/2 listed as a "1.2" on ebay...

06-11-2017, 10:14 PM	#64
Eyewanders Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Land of the Salish Sea Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,343 Original Poster	Originally posted by gabriel_bc You either have a K 50/1.2 or an A 50/1.2 - there was no 50/1.2 in the M series. /Pentax pedant You are correct. It's a K - I do that with that lens a lot likely because I find it so much like the M-50/1.4 I had first and for many years, which its very similar to obviously, though certainly larger. Actually for that matter now that I think about it, I've a K 24/2.8 as well which seems even more like an M series.... it's tiny.

06-11-2017, 10:17 PM	#65
gabriel_bc Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Langley, BC Photos: Gallery Posts: 550	Originally posted by chickentender Actually for that matter now that I think about it, I've a K 24/2.8 as well which seems even more like an M series Interestingly, there was no 24mm in the M series either - the K24/2.8 was held over instead.

06-12-2017, 03:32 AM - 1 Like	#66
AtitG Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 269	I love my 67 with the 105mm, but the mz-L with a 40mm xs makes film photography so accessible. its the camera combo i bring most of the time.

06-12-2017, 09:43 AM - 1 Like	#67
Eyewanders Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Land of the Salish Sea Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,343 Original Poster	Originally posted by gabriel_bc Interestingly, there was no 24mm in the M series either - the K24/2.8 was held over instead. Yes, that's what I meant. Likely already fit the bill for their M lineup intentions, seeing as it is so compact.

06-13-2017, 03:51 PM - 1 Like	#69
gofour3 Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 8,091	Originally posted by gabriel_bc Interestingly, there was no 24mm in the M series either - the K24/2.8 was held over instead. Originally posted by chickentender I've a K 24/2.8 as well which seems even more like an M series.... it's tiny The K24/2.8 was released during the "M" series years to replace the K24/3.5, but was was identified as a "K" lens most likely due to the 52mm filter thread. Phil.

06-17-2017, 09:33 PM - 1 Like	#70
johnpentax Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Now in Victoria Posts: 29	An easy choice. A K1000 SE in brown leatherette. A totally practical camera, wondrous shutter sound and by far the most beautiful camera made. But which lens? I'd choose the K 55mm f1.8 for versatility but am enjoying experimenting with the K 105mm f2.8.

06-20-2017, 07:27 PM	#71
gutter rock Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 42	Been thinking about this as my Pentax collection needs a diet. LX would be first choice except I don't really trust them. It would come down to the most reliable so for me it is a contest between the KX and MX. In the end I vote MX because I have the winder for it and I like the viewfinder better. I will go with the M50 1.7 as my lens.

06-20-2017, 07:40 PM - 2 Likes	#72
nickthetasmaniac Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 2,361	Originally posted by gabriel_bc Good point - if I had a nickel for every M50/2 listed as a "1.2" on ebay... Ah, but then there's the rare and magical moments when a 50/f1.2 is listed as a 50/f2 and priced accordingly - we can dream

06-21-2017, 12:03 AM	#73
gabriel_bc Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Langley, BC Photos: Gallery Posts: 550	Originally posted by nickthetasmaniac Ah, but then there's the rare and magical moments when a 50/f1.2 is listed as a 50/f2 and priced accordingly - we can dream I picked up mine for $100 Canadian along with an ME Super. The camera is in need of a CLA, but I'm not complaining.

06-21-2017, 03:43 AM - 1 Like	#74
pathdoc Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2015 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,381	Originally posted by gabriel_bc I picked up mine for $100 Canadian along with an ME Super. The camera is in need of a CLA, but I'm not complaining. No, I can see why not! I have the Rikenon P (Tomioka?) 55/1.2, so a 50/1.2 K would be functionally redundant in my collection, but if I ever stumble across a 50/1.2 A at that price I think my K-1 would thank me. Now that I actually have a 1.2 in my collection, I can afford to bide my time.

06-21-2017, 07:37 AM	#75
gabriel_bc Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Langley, BC Photos: Gallery Posts: 550	Originally posted by pathdoc No, I can see why not! "I have a particular set of skills" - and in my case, I knew from the blurry, small photo that it was the K50/1.2 based on its relative size to the camera (it was mounted on the ME Super). I think the seller knew the camera was dead, but I obviously did not care at all. Craigslist has been good to me - I also got my very nice FA20-35/4 locally for $350 (if memory serves) many years ago. That seller knew it was a good lens, but wasn't pricing it quite to where it might have been priced.