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**grhazelton** · 10-13-2018, 08:08 AM - **2 Likes**

I have both the K1000 and the KX. I think, as has been expressed here, that the vast number of K1000s out there has led to its general recommendation as an ideal beginner's camera. Strange are the ways of the market! I scored an immaculate KX adorned with the f1.4 50mm for just over $100! IMO the KX is a far better introduction to film than the K1000. It has full exposure info in the viewfinder, depth of field preview, mirror lockup - good for long exposures, and meter on/off. Pity there was no winder available. But since "everyone" has heard of the K1000 it has become the choice for many photography classes. And so it goes....

Kim Coxon · 10-13-2018, 08:13 AM

Originally posted by grhazelton

I have both the K1000 and the KX. I think, as has been expressed here, that the vast number of K1000s out there has led to its general recommendation as an ideal beginner's camera. Strange are the ways of the market! I scored an immaculate KX adorned with the f1.4 50mm for just over $100! IMO the KX is a far better introduction to film than the K1000. It has full exposure info in the viewfinder, depth of field preview, mirror lockup - good for long exposures, and meter on/off. Pity there was no winder available. But since "everyone" has heard of the K1000 it has become the choice for many photography classes. And so it goes....

No winder for the KX but there was a motor drive available for the MD version as there was for the KM. But good luck finding one. lol

**boriscleto** · 10-13-2018, 09:15 AM

I just received a Nikon FM that doesn't need a CLA from Seattle Goodwill. $94 after shipping, very happy at that price...

stevebrot · 10-13-2018, 10:41 AM

Originally posted by boriscleto

I just received a Nikon FM that doesn't need a CLA from Seattle Goodwill. $94 after shipping, very happy at that price...

That is an excellent price! Did it come attached to a lens?

Steve

**boriscleto** · 10-13-2018, 11:13 AM

Originally posted by stevebrot

That is an excellent price! Did it come attached to a lens?

Steve

Just an E series 50/1.8. But I see those selling for $40 and up on eBay...

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/14-general-talk/99051-your-latest-acquis...ml#post4489947

Nikon prices are kind of crazy compared to Pentax prices. I see EMs sell for more than $100...

stevebrot · 10-13-2018, 11:22 AM

Originally posted by boriscleto

Nikon prices are kind of crazy compared to Pentax prices. I see EMs sell for more than $100...

Agreed. I have long wanted an FM2, but the body cost has continued to be out-of-reach regardless of condition.

Steve

**ChrisPlatt** · 10-13-2018, 12:55 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by stevebrot

I have long wanted an FM2, but the body cost has continued to be out-of-reach regardless of condition.

Last time I checked the Nikon FM is still a bargain.

I owned and used Nikon FM, FE, FM2n and FE models.
IMO build quality is a bit better on the earlier FM/FE.

FWIW using normal speed films I seldom needed the higher shutter speeds on my FM2n and FE2...

Chris

**ChrisPlatt** · 10-13-2018, 04:36 PM

Original FE seems to be an even better buy. The FE loses the 3 red LED dots,
adds needle and bar on a scale for aperture priority AE or manual exposure,
much like K2DMD; it even has ADR to show selected aperture in viewfinder.

Other nice features are AE memory lock, user interchangeable focusing screens,
mirror prefire with self-timer, and 3.5 fps motor capability with MD-11 or MD-12.

FE and FE2 have electronic shutters and are battery-dependent.
The Nikon DB-2 remote battery pack fits these and other models.

Chris

Jellygeist · 10-13-2018, 05:12 PM

Brandon, Manitoba still keeping it reasonable

**boriscleto** · 10-13-2018, 05:54 PM

Originally posted by ChrisPlatt

FE and FE2 have electronic shutters and are battery-dependent.

Which is why I bought a FM. I'm concentrating mostly on all mechanical SLRs at the moment. I want cameras that will work even if the electronics die...

I've got plenty of Pentax Ks and Spotmatics...I have 2 Konica Autoreflex, a Minolta SR-T, 2 Zenit, Praktica, Sears TLS & Tower 37A, Ihagee Exa, Topcon Super RE, Ricoh XR-2 & a couple Cosina made cameras.

I think my next two will be an Olympus OM-1 & a Canon FTb...

**ChrisPlatt** · 10-14-2018, 04:33 AM

Originally posted by boriscleto

Which is why I bought a FM. I'm concentrating mostly on all mechanical SLRs at the moment. I want cameras that will work even if the electronics die...

..I think my next two will be an Olympus OM-1 & a Canon FTb...

All good choices and also still bargains. I too prefer mechanical cameras.

But absent an Eric Hendrickson for the other brands they are all pretty much
disposable. Fortunately at current prices they can be considered as such.

The FE is miles ahead of the FM in features. It's like a K2DMD, only more refined.
I sold off my Nikon FM, FM2n and FE2 bodies. I still own 2 FEs, silver and black.

Chris

**monochrome** · 10-14-2018, 05:53 AM

Originally posted by ChrisPlatt

All good choices and also still bargains. I too prefer mechanical cameras.

But absent an Eric Hendrickson for the other brands they are all pretty much
disposable. Fortunately at current prices they can be considered as such.

The FE is miles ahead of the FM in features. It's like a K2DMD, only more refined.
I sold off my Nikon FM, FM2n and FE2 bodies. I still own 2 FEs, silver and black.

Chris

I’ve fooled around with an F1a and FE2 but neither inspired me. They’re both on the way out.

LesDMess · 10-14-2018, 07:40 AM

Originally posted by ChrisPlatt

All good choices and also still bargains. I too prefer mechanical cameras.

But absent an Eric Hendrickson for the other brands they are all pretty much
disposable. Fortunately at current prices they can be considered as such.

Chris

I would classify John Hermanson as the Olympus counterpart to Eric -> Camtech Photo Services and I have used his service too.

---------- Post added 10-14-18 at 09:41 AM ----------

Originally posted by monochrome

I’ve fooled around with an F1a and FE2 but neither inspired me. They’re both on the way out.

What is an F1a?

**monochrome** · 10-14-2018, 07:51 AM

Originally posted by LesDMess

What is an F1a?

A typo. F2A (Photomic if you prefer) with DP-11 Head.

LesDMess · 10-14-2018, 08:14 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by monochrome

A typo. F2A (Photomic if you prefer) with DP-1 Head.

I got one of those . . .

10-14-2018, 07:51 AM	#134
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by LesDMess What is an F1a? A typo. F2A (Photomic if you prefer) with DP-11 Head. Last edited by monochrome; 10-14-2018 at 10:15 AM.

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10-13-2018, 08:08 AM - 2 Likes	#121
grhazelton Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Jonesboro, GA Photos: Albums Posts: 1,972	I have both the K1000 and the KX. I think, as has been expressed here, that the vast number of K1000s out there has led to its general recommendation as an ideal beginner's camera. Strange are the ways of the market! I scored an immaculate KX adorned with the f1.4 50mm for just over $100! IMO the KX is a far better introduction to film than the K1000. It has full exposure info in the viewfinder, depth of field preview, mirror lockup - good for long exposures, and meter on/off. Pity there was no winder available. But since "everyone" has heard of the K1000 it has become the choice for many photography classes. And so it goes....

10-13-2018, 08:13 AM	#122
Kim Coxon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Posts: 135	Originally posted by grhazelton I have both the K1000 and the KX. I think, as has been expressed here, that the vast number of K1000s out there has led to its general recommendation as an ideal beginner's camera. Strange are the ways of the market! I scored an immaculate KX adorned with the f1.4 50mm for just over $100! IMO the KX is a far better introduction to film than the K1000. It has full exposure info in the viewfinder, depth of field preview, mirror lockup - good for long exposures, and meter on/off. Pity there was no winder available. But since "everyone" has heard of the K1000 it has become the choice for many photography classes. And so it goes.... No winder for the KX but there was a motor drive available for the MD version as there was for the KM. But good luck finding one. lol

10-13-2018, 09:15 AM	#123
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,477	I just received a Nikon FM that doesn't need a CLA from Seattle Goodwill. $94 after shipping, very happy at that price...

10-13-2018, 10:41 AM	#124
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by boriscleto I just received a Nikon FM that doesn't need a CLA from Seattle Goodwill. $94 after shipping, very happy at that price... That is an excellent price! Did it come attached to a lens? Steve

10-13-2018, 11:13 AM	#125
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,477	Originally posted by stevebrot That is an excellent price! Did it come attached to a lens? Steve Just an E series 50/1.8. But I see those selling for $40 and up on eBay... https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/14-general-talk/99051-your-latest-acquis...ml#post4489947 Nikon prices are kind of crazy compared to Pentax prices. I see EMs sell for more than $100...

10-13-2018, 11:22 AM	#126
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by boriscleto Nikon prices are kind of crazy compared to Pentax prices. I see EMs sell for more than $100... Agreed. I have long wanted an FM2, but the body cost has continued to be out-of-reach regardless of condition. Steve

10-13-2018, 12:55 PM - 1 Like	#127
ChrisPlatt Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Rockaway Beach NYC Posts: 7,697	Originally posted by stevebrot I have long wanted an FM2, but the body cost has continued to be out-of-reach regardless of condition. Last time I checked the Nikon FM is still a bargain. I owned and used Nikon FM, FE, FM2n and FE models. IMO build quality is a bit better on the earlier FM/FE. FWIW using normal speed films I seldom needed the higher shutter speeds on my FM2n and FE2... Chris

10-13-2018, 04:36 PM	#128
ChrisPlatt Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Rockaway Beach NYC Posts: 7,697	Original FE seems to be an even better buy. The FE loses the 3 red LED dots, adds needle and bar on a scale for aperture priority AE or manual exposure, much like K2DMD; it even has ADR to show selected aperture in viewfinder. Other nice features are AE memory lock, user interchangeable focusing screens, mirror prefire with self-timer, and 3.5 fps motor capability with MD-11 or MD-12. FE and FE2 have electronic shutters and are battery-dependent. The Nikon DB-2 remote battery pack fits these and other models. Chris

10-13-2018, 05:12 PM	#129
Jellygeist Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Brandon, MB Photos: Albums Posts: 334	Brandon, Manitoba still keeping it reasonable

10-13-2018, 05:54 PM	#130
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,477	Originally posted by ChrisPlatt FE and FE2 have electronic shutters and are battery-dependent. Which is why I bought a FM. I'm concentrating mostly on all mechanical SLRs at the moment. I want cameras that will work even if the electronics die... I've got plenty of Pentax Ks and Spotmatics...I have 2 Konica Autoreflex, a Minolta SR-T, 2 Zenit, Praktica, Sears TLS & Tower 37A, Ihagee Exa, Topcon Super RE, Ricoh XR-2 & a couple Cosina made cameras. I think my next two will be an Olympus OM-1 & a Canon FTb...

10-14-2018, 04:33 AM	#131
ChrisPlatt Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Rockaway Beach NYC Posts: 7,697	Originally posted by boriscleto Which is why I bought a FM. I'm concentrating mostly on all mechanical SLRs at the moment. I want cameras that will work even if the electronics die... ..I think my next two will be an Olympus OM-1 & a Canon FTb... All good choices and also still bargains. I too prefer mechanical cameras. But absent an Eric Hendrickson for the other brands they are all pretty much disposable. Fortunately at current prices they can be considered as such. The FE is miles ahead of the FM in features. It's like a K2DMD, only more refined. I sold off my Nikon FM, FM2n and FE2 bodies. I still own 2 FEs, silver and black. Chris

10-14-2018, 05:53 AM	#132
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by ChrisPlatt All good choices and also still bargains. I too prefer mechanical cameras. But absent an Eric Hendrickson for the other brands they are all pretty much disposable. Fortunately at current prices they can be considered as such. The FE is miles ahead of the FM in features. It's like a K2DMD, only more refined. I sold off my Nikon FM, FM2n and FE2 bodies. I still own 2 FEs, silver and black. Chris I’ve fooled around with an F1a and FE2 but neither inspired me. They’re both on the way out.

10-14-2018, 07:40 AM	#133
LesDMess Pentaxian Join Date: May 2011 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,235	Originally posted by ChrisPlatt All good choices and also still bargains. I too prefer mechanical cameras. But absent an Eric Hendrickson for the other brands they are all pretty much disposable. Fortunately at current prices they can be considered as such. Chris I would classify John Hermanson as the Olympus counterpart to Eric -> *Camtech Photo Services* and I have used his service too. ---------- Post added 10-14-18 at 09:41 AM ---------- Originally posted by monochrome I’ve fooled around with an F1a and FE2 but neither inspired me. They’re both on the way out. What is an F1a?

10-14-2018, 08:14 AM - 1 Like	#135
LesDMess Pentaxian Join Date: May 2011 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,235	Originally posted by monochrome A typo. F2A (Photomic if you prefer) with DP-1 Head. I got one of those . . .

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