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03-12-2020, 10:23 AM   #1
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Suggestions wanted - best and inexpensive way to store negatives and prints

okay I've got the Z-1, Super Program and M E Super
[ haven't used the ME Super yet ]

thoughts about storing the negatives and prints ????

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I store negatives in archival loose-leaf sleeves placed in oversized binders along with a "proof sheet"* for each roll. I don't store prints except for snapshots and those are in a box in the envelope they came in.


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* Not a true contact print proof sheet...rather, a single sheet print of thumbnails from the scans with reference numbers below each.
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I can't say what's the best of the least expensive ways to store film/prints. But, like Steve, I store my negatives in archive sleeves in 3-ring binders on a book shelf. And I now cover the tops of the binders with a cloth. I'm blown away how dust/pollen can still get on the negatives stored this way. I find a dust cover over the 3-ring binders helps for long term storage. Prints I've made many years ago have been stored in the very boxes the print paper came in on a shelf now. They looked fine last I checked.

Here is a quick read on general Film Storage And Handling information to perhaps brush up on.

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I store my A1 and A2 prints in archival cardboard boxes, with each print separated with a sheet of archival tissue paper. Working well.

The supplier I use is: https://www.preservationequipment.com/

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QuoteOriginally posted by stevebrot Quote
I store negatives in archival loose-leaf sleeves placed in oversized binders along with a "proof sheet"* for each roll. I don't store prints except for snapshots and those are in a box in the envelope they came in.


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* Not a true contact print proof sheet...rather, a single sheet print of thumbnails from the scans with reference numbers below each.
My parents and I do something similar as well, we have these albums with extra sleeves for the negative strips. IIRC they have a flappy cover on the top to provide some dust protection.
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I decided to get one of these from B H


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Besfile Archival Binder with Rings (Black)

The black Archival Binder with Rings from Besfile is constructed from polypropylene with three 1" O-rings that are compatible with pages measuring 11.6 x 10.3". The binder box closes with fold-over snap closures and protects the contents against moisture and dust.
thanks for all the hints and suggestions
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Negative storage:

With time, negatives degrade, due to the ageing of the plastic and the emulsion. So, for important negatives, how do you slow that ageing?
Ideally, you should store negatives in plastic sleeves in a controlled humidity environment, at a cool temperature. Most archivists recommend 13degC and 50% humidity. For long term storage, colder temperatures (-23degC) can be used but bringing film back to room temperature can be problematic and humidity control is difficult unless you have a special low-humidity freezer. So, unless you have specialist gear like that, the best bet is 13degC and 50% humidity or as close to that as you can get.

As all of this is in the too hard basket for most of us, the safest simple solution is a dark, cool, dry space. A bit like wine, but with less humidity!

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I've found storing mounted slides over the years a lot easier than negatives/prints. (I have less than 20 rolls of prints done in almost 50 years of shooting)

I use museum grade archival storage boxes for my mounted slides and they are all numbered & cataloged via a spreadsheet. (yes I'm a Virgo)

For my negatives I do the same as above, using "Print File" archival sheets stored in a binder.

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I've got hundreds of rolls of 35mm (and some larger format) negatives going back to the '60's. They've all been stored in what were supposed to be good quality sleeved sheets in suitably sized ring binders. However, a couple of years ago, when I happened to re-visit some old holiday snaps stored in commercial photo-albums I was disappointed to realise that the colours had faded dramatically, despite reasonable domestic storage in a dark dry cupboard.
Time to drag out the scanner and regenerate the pictures, I thought, confident that I had well-stored negatives.
That was when I found that a lot of the negatives, (mostly Agfa), had also started to deteriorate. Whilst most were recoverable (just) some were too far gone to be any real use
So, I'll probably never know if the problem was bad storage or poor processing initially, but I do know that if I ever "get back into film" I'll be scanning the negatives at the earliest opportunity and making sure I've got at least two copies of the scans on different media!
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QuoteOriginally posted by kypfer Quote
. . . I do know that if I ever "get back into film" I'll be scanning the negatives at the earliest opportunity and making sure I've got at least two copies of the scans on different media!
I've gotten scans on a thumb drive when I got the film developed

now they are on an external hard drive

so what I am really doing is trying to figure out what to do with the negatives and prints

without " paying an arm and a leg " as they say
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I've gotten scans on a thumb drive when I got the film developednow they are on an external hard drive so what I am really doing is trying to figure out what to do with the negatives and printswithout " paying an arm and a leg " as they say

The prints are your end result, do with them as you will in the "confidence" you can re-generate them, should the need arise, from the digital scans.


In this day and age, these prints are likely to be digital prints (from a printer) rather than analogue prints from a chemical development, so their archival requirements will likely be different to an "old-fashioned" photograph. However, these prints will likely to have been generated from the scans supplied on the thumb drive you received, so if there are any you are not totally satisfied with, colour cast, shadow/highlight detail etc., now would be the best time to re-scan the negative before anything "goes wrong".


Good luck
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I store my negatives same as Steve and others have said. I have a three ring binder with archival sleeves, that is holding 3000 negatives (perhaps more) because I shot film until a year after I joined PF, going on 25 years until then, they all seemed fine last time I looked at them.
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