weirdest thing. first roll K1000

LeGoGubbe · 05-04-2020, 01:30 AM

long time pentax/zenit user, got a "new" k1000 and the first roll went away.
but surprise, a few of the shots had a pretty weird thing in them. pretty sure it isnt a leak but im out of ideas. seals appear to be ok.
lens had no issues as I shoot on my K10d with it.

ideas?

thx for the help!

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MarkJerling · 05-04-2020, 02:54 AM

Were these shot with a tripod? (Long exposures?)

LeGoGubbe · 05-04-2020, 03:32 AM

No, handheld with at least 1/125.

LaHo · 05-04-2020, 03:36 AM - **1 Like**

Maybe you should check the shutter curtain. The light leak could be caused by a small pinpoint hole.

LeGoGubbe · 05-04-2020, 03:45 AM

Oh! Didnt thought of that. Next question is naturally, is it hard to replace of send it in and get it properly done?

LaHo · 05-04-2020, 04:25 AM

Originally posted by LeGoGubbe

Oh! Didnt thought of that. Next question is naturally, is it hard to replace of send it in and get it properly done?

Given the low cost of a K1000 I would think it would be cheaper to just buy a another used K1000.

LeGoGubbe · 05-04-2020, 04:29 AM

You are right, i have a colleague that collects and repairs cameras. Gonna give him a call. Otherwise a new one.. Even though im getting a zorki 4k delivered next week

tuco · 05-04-2020, 04:39 AM

There is a technique to lockup the mirror on a K1000 - a quick tap on the shutter button than doesn't press it all the way. You can then inspect the shutter curtain.

LeGoGubbe · 05-04-2020, 05:27 AM

Just took a look, no holes in the curtain. This is getting weirder

Vendee · 05-04-2020, 05:43 AM

Originally posted by LeGoGubbe

Just took a look, no holes in the curtain. This is getting weirder

Can you see the defect on the negatives? You say it only appeared on some shots. Perhaps a development issue?

gylfimag · 05-04-2020, 05:44 AM

There are many other possibilities than a light-leak in the camera. Something could have gone wrong during the processing of the film (a light leak at some stage before the fixer has done its job) or the canister been exposed to radiation. The canister itself could have had a hole in it - although I don't recall that ever being a problem. Something could have gone wrong during the production of the film. One way to find out is to shoot another roll!

LeGoGubbe · 05-04-2020, 05:48 AM

It could be a development issue, I saw the circle in a few but not all shots. Pretty weird!

https://flic.kr/p/2iBesPZ from the same roll.

Vendee · 05-04-2020, 06:31 AM

Originally posted by LeGoGubbe

It could be a development issue, I saw the circle in a few but not all shots. Pretty weird!

000024 | shot with k1000, testroll | l3gogubb3 | Flickr from the same roll.

I just looked at your Flickr shots. The artefact always seems to be in the same horizontal plane but sometimes a different vertical plane. Just out of interest, when you checked the shutter, did you check both curtains i.e. check it cocked and uncocked?

LeGoGubbe · 05-04-2020, 06:40 AM

Yes I checked both against the window to easily see. But nothing.

ChristianRock · 05-04-2020, 07:38 AM

Might be worth putting another roll in it, maybe a cheap one, just to make sure it wasn't the developer doing something funky...

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05-04-2020, 02:54 AM	#2
MarkJerling Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: May 2012 Location: Wairarapa, New Zealand Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 20,421	Were these shot with a tripod? (Long exposures?)

05-04-2020, 03:32 AM	#3
LeGoGubbe Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 47 Original Poster	No, handheld with at least 1/125.

05-04-2020, 03:36 AM - 1 Like	#4
LaHo Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Greater Copenhagen Area Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 430	Maybe you should check the shutter curtain. The light leak could be caused by a small pinpoint hole.

05-04-2020, 03:45 AM	#5
LeGoGubbe Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 47 Original Poster	Oh! Didnt thought of that. Next question is naturally, is it hard to replace of send it in and get it properly done?

05-04-2020, 04:25 AM	#6
LaHo Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Greater Copenhagen Area Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 430	Originally posted by LeGoGubbe Oh! Didnt thought of that. Next question is naturally, is it hard to replace of send it in and get it properly done? Given the low cost of a K1000 I would think it would be cheaper to just buy a another used K1000.

05-04-2020, 04:29 AM	#7
LeGoGubbe Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 47 Original Poster	You are right, i have a colleague that collects and repairs cameras. Gonna give him a call. Otherwise a new one.. Even though im getting a zorki 4k delivered next week

05-04-2020, 04:39 AM	#8
tuco Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pugetopolis Posts: 11,029	There is a technique to lockup the mirror on a K1000 - a quick tap on the shutter button than doesn't press it all the way. You can then inspect the shutter curtain.

05-04-2020, 05:27 AM	#9
LeGoGubbe Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 47 Original Poster	Just took a look, no holes in the curtain. This is getting weirder

05-04-2020, 05:43 AM	#10
Vendee Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Norfolk, UK Posts: 1,134	Originally posted by LeGoGubbe Just took a look, no holes in the curtain. This is getting weirder Can you see the defect on the negatives? You say it only appeared on some shots. Perhaps a development issue?

05-04-2020, 05:44 AM	#11
gylfimag Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Photos: Gallery Posts: 90	There are many other possibilities than a light-leak in the camera. Something could have gone wrong during the processing of the film (a light leak at some stage before the fixer has done its job) or the canister been exposed to radiation. The canister itself could have had a hole in it - although I don't recall that ever being a problem. Something could have gone wrong during the production of the film. One way to find out is to shoot another roll!

05-04-2020, 05:48 AM	#12
LeGoGubbe Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 47 Original Poster	It could be a development issue, I saw the circle in a few but not all shots. Pretty weird! https://flic.kr/p/2iBesPZ from the same roll.

05-04-2020, 06:31 AM	#13
Vendee Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Norfolk, UK Posts: 1,134	Originally posted by LeGoGubbe It could be a development issue, I saw the circle in a few but not all shots. Pretty weird! 000024 \| shot with k1000, testroll \| l3gogubb3 \| Flickr from the same roll. I just looked at your Flickr shots. The artefact always seems to be in the same horizontal plane but sometimes a different vertical plane. Just out of interest, when you checked the shutter, did you check both curtains i.e. check it cocked and uncocked?

05-04-2020, 06:40 AM	#14
LeGoGubbe Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 47 Original Poster	Yes I checked both against the window to easily see. But nothing.

05-04-2020, 07:38 AM	#15
ChristianRock Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: People's Republic of America Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,911	Might be worth putting another roll in it, maybe a cheap one, just to make sure it wasn't the developer doing something funky...