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07-15-2020, 02:03 PM   #1
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*ist won’t fire... shutter button issue?

I got a film *ist from America’s most frustrating charity auction site.
It looks in good shape, and all the electronics come on when I put in the batteries.
It even tries to wind film when I open and close the door.

But it won’t fire, with or without a lens. And it won’t autofocus.
The manual suggests firing the camera some before loading it, so it shouldn’t be locking me out due to lack of film...
And I did turn on the “use lenses without an A setting” custom function, but that’s just habit

A light press on the shutter does turn on the meter, and it is reading the lens aperture.
It’s as if the shutter button doesn’t work.

Has anyone heard of this before? Is it repairable at home?

Thanks,

-Eric

07-15-2020, 02:31 PM   #2
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What happens if you put the focus switch into Manual focus ?
07-15-2020, 02:39 PM   #3
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QuoteOriginally posted by TwoUptons Quote
I got a film *ist from America’s most frustrating charity auction site.
It looks in good shape, and all the electronics come on when I put in the batteries.
It even tries to wind film when I open and close the door.

But it won’t fire, with or without a lens. And it won’t autofocus.
The manual suggests firing the camera some before loading it, so it shouldn’t be locking me out due to lack of film...
And I did turn on the “use lenses without an A setting” custom function, but that’s just habit

A light press on the shutter does turn on the meter, and it is reading the lens aperture.
It’s as if the shutter button doesn’t work.

Has anyone heard of this before? Is it repairable at home?

Thanks,

-Eric


First thing I'd try would be a CS-205 cable release plugged in the appropriate socket, or an infra-red remote control, if you happen to have one. These options would at least help isolate the shutter button itself or possibly suggest a failed shutter.
A totally failed shutter is probably end of story, but if it is just the shutter button, at least you've got other options for controlling the camera whilst considering repair.


Good luck
07-15-2020, 05:35 PM   #4
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The behavior is the same with manual focus or autofocus - no shutter firing.
Lens off, same thing...

I did find my infrared "Pentax compatible" remote control... and it worked once I found a battery that wasn't dead. That was a good idea
Is the CS-205 wired remote the same one as the Canon one?

It did not autofocus when it fired with the remote, but I think I have the custom function set that way, so that's fine...

So that means it really is the button (presumably)... so... how to fix a *ist button...

I have a spare (broken) ZX-L. I wonder if the buttons are swappable... and how hard that would be...

-Eric

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I would keep exercising that button also, it may have just got a little beverage with sugar or sweetener spilled on it with will dry like a glue, but will break up after a while. I remember that on the forum at some time a few years ago.
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QuoteOriginally posted by TwoUptons Quote
Is the CS-205 wired remote the same one as the Canon one?
Generally, yes (there are some exotic Canons). If it fits snugly in the socket, you should be good.
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I would keep exercising that button also, it may have just got a little beverage with sugar or sweetener spilled on it with will dry like a glue, but will break up after a while. I remember that on the forum at some time a few years ago.
This is a good idea.

Also, perhaps a good spray with electronic contact cleaner. NOT WD-40 but real electronic contact cleaner. You can get it in the electrical section at Home Depot or Lowes, I think I have seen it in the automotive section at Wal_mart. A good spritz on and around the button would be a start, without having to disassemble the camera. This cured a lot of malfunctioning e-dials on the K-R several years ago.
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QuoteOriginally posted by TwoUptons Quote
I did find my infrared "Pentax compatible" remote control... and it worked once I found a battery that wasn't dead. That was a good idea
Is the CS-205 wired remote the same one as the Canon one?

So that means it really is the button (presumably)... so... how to fix a *ist button...

I have a spare (broken) ZX-L. I wonder if the buttons are swappable... and how hard that would be...

-Eric
I use a 'generic' wired remote marketed as suitable for Canon and Pentax, so that shouldn't be an issue, if the plug (2.5mm 3pole) is the same.

Even if the switch itself is similar, the chances of the circuitry it's mounted to being the same is probably low, so unless you're proficient with a needle-point soldering iron, I'd not be too optimistic. Nevertheless, it might be worthwhile disassembling the ZX-L, as it doesn't work anyway, to get an idea of the complexity of the job so's you can decide if you want to proceed further.


Good luck

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QuoteOriginally posted by TwoUptons Quote
I got a film *ist from America’s most frustrating charity auction site.
It looks in good shape, and all the electronics come on when I put in the batteries.
It even tries to wind film when I open and close the door.

But it won’t fire, with or without a lens. And it won’t autofocus.
The manual suggests firing the camera some before loading it, so it shouldn’t be locking me out due to lack of film...
And I did turn on the “use lenses without an A setting” custom function, but that’s just habit

A light press on the shutter does turn on the meter, and it is reading the lens aperture.
It’s as if the shutter button doesn’t work.

Has anyone heard of this before? Is it repairable at home?

Thanks,

-Eric
I have a feeling I got one from the same place. It also doesn't fire with the shutter button but I put on the BG-20 grip and it fires with the shutter button on that. It's a little awkward to fire with my pinky finger but it's better than needing a remote.
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