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**Apet-Sure** · 07-24-2020, 01:41 PM

Is this an authorized, licensed clone? If not, how can the Chinese manufacturer get away with using the Pentax logo? Why would Pentax license someone to make clones? Wouldn't it degrade their brand reputation? Very strange situation.

titrisol · 07-25-2020, 10:16 AM

Most probably is not authorized, and the logo and name were printed for markets were brand name is hard to enforce
The K-1000 name still carries a lot of weight

**stevebrot** · 07-25-2020, 03:25 PM

Originally posted by Apet-Sure

Is this an authorized, licensed clone? If not, how can the Chinese manufacturer get away with using the Pentax logo? Why would Pentax license someone to make clones? Wouldn't it degrade their brand reputation? Very strange situation.

The Pentax label, in this case, appears to have been glued to the prism housing by who knows who. The Mingca branding is probably underneath. As for the licensing, Mingca contracted with Pentax to produce K-1000 cameras using Pentax tooling. After the K-1000 end-of-life, Mingca acquired the tooling and continued making cameras. Their product is a direct and quite legal derivative of the original and is improved in several areas. At one point, there were a bunch of Mingca "K1000s" being sold under the Penflex label by Kiev USA...go figure...

Images lifted from https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/8-pentax-film-slr-discussion/296885-no-name-k1000-2.html. Notice the Helios 44K-4 bundled as kit lens.

Steve

**ChrisPlatt** · 07-25-2020, 03:38 PM - **2 Likes**

I too own a Brother P-Touch label maker.

What brand and model camera would you like?

Chris

jupiter · 07-25-2020, 06:16 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by clickclick

And you know the best part about this find? You've got the K-mount and all those Pentax lenses to choose from to use with it!

hell yeah!!!

---------- Post added 07-25-20 at 06:18 PM ----------

Originally posted by stevebrot

The Pentax label, in this case, appears to have been glued to the prism housing by who knows who. The Mingca branding is probably underneath. As for the licensing, Mingca contracted with Pentax to produce K-1000 cameras using Pentax tooling. After the K-1000 end-of-life, Mingca acquired the tooling and continued making cameras. Their product is a direct and quite legal derivative of the original and is improved in several areas. At one point, there were a bunch of Mingca "K1000s" being sold under the Penflex label by Kiev USA...go figure...

Images lifted from No Name K1000 - Page 2 - PentaxForums.com. Notice the Helios 44K-4 bundled as kit lens.

Steve

thank you for that information, it helps me to know what i have in my hands

---------- Post added 07-25-20 at 06:21 PM ----------

Originally posted by ChrisPlatt

I too own a Brother P-Touch label maker.

What brand and model camera would you like?

Chris

im afraid i dont know if you're asking to me, but im going to answer your question: My actual dream camera its a Canon A1, they're very uncomon over here, and the ones that i find are really expensive, but i find that camera to be so pretty, and the history behind it makes me want to have one.
What aboyt you??

**Apet-Sure** · 07-26-2020, 11:39 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by stevebrot

The Pentax label, in this case, appears to have been glued to the prism housing by who knows who. The Mingca branding is probably underneath. As for the licensing, Mingca contracted with Pentax to produce K-1000 cameras using Pentax tooling. After the K-1000 end-of-life, Mingca acquired the tooling and continued making cameras.

Interesting. I never knew that part of the Pentax story.

07-25-2020, 03:25 PM	#18
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 38,780	Originally posted by Apet-Sure Is this an authorized, licensed clone? If not, how can the Chinese manufacturer get away with using the Pentax logo? Why would Pentax license someone to make clones? Wouldn't it degrade their brand reputation? Very strange situation. The Pentax label, in this case, appears to have been glued to the prism housing by who knows who. The Mingca branding is probably underneath. As for the licensing, Mingca contracted with Pentax to produce K-1000 cameras using Pentax tooling. After the K-1000 end-of-life, Mingca acquired the tooling and continued making cameras. Their product is a direct and quite legal derivative of the original and is improved in several areas. At one point, there were a bunch of Mingca "K1000s" being sold under the Penflex label by Kiev USA...go figure... Images lifted from https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/8-pentax-film-slr-discussion/296885-no-name-k1000-2.html. Notice the Helios 44K-4 bundled as kit lens. Steve Last edited by stevebrot; 07-25-2020 at 03:50 PM.

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07-24-2020, 01:41 PM	#16
Apet-Sure Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Goldsboro North Carolina Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,828	Is this an authorized, licensed clone? If not, how can the Chinese manufacturer get away with using the Pentax logo? Why would Pentax license someone to make clones? Wouldn't it degrade their brand reputation? Very strange situation.

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titrisol Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: In the most populated state... state of denial Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,251	Most probably is not authorized, and the logo and name were printed for markets were brand name is hard to enforce The K-1000 name still carries a lot of weight

07-25-2020, 03:38 PM - 2 Likes	#19
ChrisPlatt Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Rockaway Beach NYC Posts: 6,463	I too own a Brother P-Touch label maker. What brand and model camera would you like? Chris

07-25-2020, 06:16 PM - 1 Like	#20
jupiter New Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Posts: 6 Original Poster	Originally posted by clickclick And you know the best part about this find? You've got the K-mount and all those Pentax lenses to choose from to use with it! hell yeah!!! ---------- Post added 07-25-20 at 06:18 PM ---------- Originally posted by stevebrot The Pentax label, in this case, appears to have been glued to the prism housing by who knows who. The Mingca branding is probably underneath. As for the licensing, Mingca contracted with Pentax to produce K-1000 cameras using Pentax tooling. After the K-1000 end-of-life, Mingca acquired the tooling and continued making cameras. Their product is a direct and quite legal derivative of the original and is improved in several areas. At one point, there were a bunch of Mingca "K1000s" being sold under the Penflex label by Kiev USA...go figure... Images lifted from No Name K1000 - Page 2 - PentaxForums.com. Notice the Helios 44K-4 bundled as kit lens. Steve thank you for that information, it helps me to know what i have in my hands ---------- Post added 07-25-20 at 06:21 PM ---------- Originally posted by ChrisPlatt I too own a Brother P-Touch label maker. What brand and model camera would you like? Chris im afraid i dont know if you're asking to me, but im going to answer your question: My actual dream camera its a Canon A1, they're very uncomon over here, and the ones that i find are really expensive, but i find that camera to be so pretty, and the history behind it makes me want to have one. What aboyt you??

07-26-2020, 11:39 AM - 1 Like	#21
Apet-Sure Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Goldsboro North Carolina Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,828	Originally posted by stevebrot The Pentax label, in this case, appears to have been glued to the prism housing by who knows who. The Mingca branding is probably underneath. As for the licensing, Mingca contracted with Pentax to produce K-1000 cameras using Pentax tooling. After the K-1000 end-of-life, Mingca acquired the tooling and continued making cameras. Interesting. I never knew that part of the Pentax story.

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