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08-25-2020, 06:38 AM - 12 Likes   #1
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LX System Diagram

FWIW, I thought some might find this useful. It came with my LX and has a lot of info about the availabity of connectors and other ancillary items. Of course some stuff is common to other cameras of that era (and today) such as the flash units. I also notice some things missing, such as the Hot Shoe Grip for holding a flash unit, which used the same connectors as the AF400T flash, and the 4P Sync Cord C which was a PC to AF400T connection; perhaps they were introduced later.

If anyone wants a higher resolution copy, feel free to download it directly from my own webspace, here :-

http://www.lucan.org.uk/IMGP6584_xis2.JPG




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Very cool, thanks!
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Nice LX system ledger.

Nice,

I have not seen one of these in awhile. It lacks the 300mm M star, the later 24-50mm f4 M -- and, of course, compatible later A series lenses like the "matched" zoom pair (the 24-50mm f 4 A series, and 70-210 f4 A series, both taking a 58mm filter) that became constant companions of my backpacking kit use of the LX (then with the 1.4X Pentax S series converter). It has some second heat editions to the M series, like the 20mm f4, and the 28mm M f 2. This was when Pentax was one of the 'Big 5', NIkon, Canon, Pentax, Minolta, and Olympus. Marketing placement in stores was defined by a complete and expansive interchangeable gear system display.approach. Yet too competition was such that the first named three offered the most complete systems, who naturally connected with devoted loyal followers generation on generation.

Camera stores went through a great economic shaking out after 1995 into the mid 2000s. To keep competitive they had store brand lenses. We see a bit of brand loyalty today, but not as it was then. When lenses shifted to auto aperture control from bodies integrated with lenses (on the A series), then quickly to systemic autofocus, Pentax first slipped from number one to number two in sales. Then, when digital bodies were advanced by the Kodak held Bayer and other color technology patents, and sports photography glamour in magazines featured climax moments big glass captures, they allied with Nikon and Canon, not with Pentax. Market share slipped to #3, then lower over digital era time.

And, market share is but one value among many related to cameras and related gear. Leica found its claimed great (once German) glass standard nitch, and digitally allied with Panasonic early on. Zeiss with Contax, then Sony over time -- TIME, the sifter of all good notions and realities. Many wrote here that recent Pentax planned flagship video releases have defined its nitch. Attributes and available features also will make it so. Folks come and go from gear systems when they address real uses and needs in an ergonomic and satisfying way. A viewfinder, for example, does not make usable recorded editable video, nor tracking enablement, nor follow autofocus for video uses. Finding access ports to carry video signal structure is defining which cameras will suffice for dual application as lenses and accessories become even more defined..

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This was when Pentax was one of the 'Big 5', NIkon, Canon, Pentax, Minolta, and Olympus. Marketing placement in stores was defined by a complete and expansive interchangeable gear system display.approach.
Of those big five, Minolta have gone (arguably replaced by Sony) and Olympus might be on their way . Yet some of the smaller guys have survived: Leica, Fuji. Meanwhile Panasonic arrived. It seems that younger generations are more attracted to "Jack-of-All-Trades" consumer brands like Sony and Panasonic than to long established specialist companies like Olympus and Pentax, which is sad, and also worrying as the Jack-of-All-Trade guys could dump cameras at the drop of a hat and switch to something else that is now more profitable and fashionable in the consumer market.

One characteristic of those stores, and essential for sales, was A4 sized multi-page glossy handouts on cameras and other gear. They were beautifully produced and all together must have cost the camera companies a fortune. I still have many, not just of Pentax, and I have been copying some today with a view to putting them on-line in some way, perhaps I will make a website with PDFs. Here is the front of one of those handouts, from around 1980:




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Back in the day each manufacturer was proud of their flagship camera model and its system accessories.
I wish I still had the many glossy brochures I collected in the late 1970's and early 1980's.

Then my favorite local new camera dealer Nassau Camera in Franklin Square Long Island (Nassau County).
In their relaxed open "showroom" one could handle any demonstrator camera for as long as desired unmolested.

The older couple who ran the place carried all the major brands, selling mostly mail order at close to Manhattan prices.
After they retired their son took over and soon the business was no more. I really miss that store - and those days.

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Thanks for sharing, I have used and collected much of the system shown, this has shown me more bags and cases for me to hunt down! I love a challenge
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Posts like these pulls my GAS up another notch....

wonder if anyone has seen those cool macro stands, light table and "mechanical stage"?

I also like the name of one of the bags: "Joy Bag". One can only imagine the use cases...

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The diagram in my first post has its resolution limited by this website, and therefore a bit of a strain to read. If anyone wants a higher resolution copy, feel free to download it directly from my own webspace, here :-

http://www.lucan.org.uk/IMGP6584_xis2.JPG
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QuoteOriginally posted by Lord Lucan Quote
The diagram in my first post has its resolution limited by this website, and therefore a bit of a strain to read. If anyone wants a higher resolution copy, feel free to download it directly from my own webspace, here :-

http://www.lucan.org.uk/IMGP6584_xis2.JPG
Thanks for the link
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QuoteOriginally posted by Baard-Einar Quote
wonder if anyone has seen those cool macro stands, light table and "mechanical stage"?
I found a Pentax copy stand at a local camera store years ago and snapped it up. It's the portable version which folds up and is in a nice wooden case. Even had the users manual with it.

PENTAX Copy Stand III and IIIP reviews - Pentax Camera Accessory Review Database

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QuoteOriginally posted by gofour3 Quote
I found a Pentax copy stand at a local camera store years ago and snapped it up. It's the portable version which folds up and is in a nice wooden case. Even had the users manual with it.

PENTAX Copy Stand III and IIIP reviews - Pentax Camera Accessory Review Database

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I have the copystand P. Not sure what the differences are. Sadly the leather handle has worn through and snapped. I need to find someone to make me a new one.
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I have the copystand P. Not sure what the differences are. Sadly the leather handle has worn through and snapped. I need to find someone to make me a new one.
Probably the same unit, with just slight tweaks? I used a luggage shop to repair the metal trunk for my 6x7 Takumar 600/4. they did a good job. (Fixed felt lining, new feet & rivets)


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we've had an KX and a K-x... maybe since we had an LX the new aps-c will be a L-x
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QuoteOriginally posted by Lord Lucan Quote
FWIW, I thought some might find this useful. It came with my LX and has a lot of info about the availabity of connectors and other ancillary items. Of course some stuff is common to other cameras of that era (and today) such as the flash units. I also notice some things missing, such as the Hot Shoe Grip for holding a flash unit, which used the same connectors as the AF400T flash, and the 4P Sync Cord C which was a PC to AF400T connection; perhaps they were introduced later.

If anyone wants a higher resolution copy, feel free to download it directly from my own webspace, here :-

http://www.lucan.org.uk/IMGP6584_xis2.JPG
I am not sure whether to thank you or curse you for making me aware of LX accessories I don't have - and there are a lot of them . . . so thanks!
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