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11-26-2021, 10:29 PM   #1
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Bringing back film cameras

As for many years many different companies have tried to make a means to allow a MANUAL film body to capture DIGITAL images via the use of a slide in digital sensor kit.

Fuji (?) did a convincing april fools joke a few years ago on a "digital film cartridge insert". Other companies have come and gone with kick starter projects for the same thing.

Reflex camera came and when in kickstarter, a pentaprism powered camera body that had a front panel that took inserts for ANY 35mm film mount..
No demand, and the flakiness of the people doing it... and that they werent willing to design what people wanted.

So what would you guys rather talk about, petition about, tear each others throats out over?

1. Getting a camera company to make a NEW film camera


2. Getting a company to create a digital insert for FILM cameras

with the glut of obsolete cell phones, mp3 players, the whole problem was always small sized high capacity media storage.
I can get a media player for 80$ that claims to hold 32 gig internal storage with an internal bay for a 64 gig memory card

3. Creating a FILM insert for Digital cameras

Before you laugh, give me ten minutes and i can show you 10 different ways to do this and number 2.

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Should Pentax make a new film SLR - PentaxForums.com

there are millions of already made film cameras floating around , I do not think that we need more new ones to inevitably fill recycle bins.....
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Should Pentax make a new film SLR - PentaxForums.com

there are millions of already made film cameras floating around , I do not think that we need more new ones to inevitably fill recycle bins.....
Yet look at finding parts for the ones that exist
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QuoteOriginally posted by filmmaster Quote
a digital insert for FILM cameras
I have had this idea myself, and nearly brought it up in the thread about getting FF Pentaxes closer to the size of the old film cameras.
A battery where the film roll is supposed to go, the brains where the exposed film rolls up, and a thin (possibly flexible) sensor between them. Suitable for any 35mm camera.
It would be pretty darned cool, but I cannot imagine that it could be done well and affordably today.

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I guess Pentax could try to find out what happened to the tooling that was sold to Ming camera company or maybe get them to make cameras again. I read an article that included someone wanting Pentax to make a medium format camera again. The return on money spent probably would not be very good on these or the other ideas mentioned. Cosina made a Bessaflex M42 SLR a number of years ago. It sold for a lot of money and it was basically a previous Cosina model with a cast metal top cover. Apparently copal charged a lot of money for such a small production run of shutters. Part of the problem is how many are going to be sold.
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So that’s relatively easy to do, then. For a real challenge, how about a way to adapt a digital camera for film, eh???
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Unlike digital cameras many SLRs were built to last. There's still plenty around in good working condition. Somehow I've ended up with 9 film cameras and they all still work. In fact once people realise you're into film you get given them. I ended up with a mint condition Nikon FA that way.

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Before you laugh, give me ten minutes and i can show you 10 different ways to do this and number 2.
Get a patent and crowd fund the units.
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QuoteOriginally posted by filmmaster Quote

3. Creating a FILM insert for Digital cameras

Before you laugh, give me ten minutes and i can show you 10 different ways to do this and number 2.
Well ok. Show away!
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Vinyl records have made a come-back, so it's not impossible. Personally, I don't mourn film and its nasty chemicals, but many do.
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I think at the moment the best anyone can hope for is a Cosina (or perhaps other company) model which can have various different mounts, though not interchangeable. This was done in the 90s, essentially releasing the same camera for different mounts.
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Any new film camera made now would not come close to the quality of cameras made 20-40 years ago. If they did attempt to match the quality the price would be off the charts.

The best strategy if you want a nice film camera is to buy one of the high end models from the past in as clean as possible condition, and then find the specialist at repairing and restoring the particular camera you bought.
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Any new film camera made now would not come close to the quality of cameras made 20-40 years ago. If they did attempt to match the quality the price would be off the charts.
The Leica M-A is of very similar quality to the classic M bodies (and yes, the price is for the charts...)
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Every attempt that I have ever seen to convert film cameras to digital (other than some medium format digital backs) has been so pitiful that the result is little more than a passing novelty. I don't think any serious photographer would take any notice of further attempts. The window of opportunity and relevance of such things has long passed anyway, and any decent digital camera needs to be designed as such from the ground up.

As for creating a film insert for digital camera to film, just why? Some serious precision modifications would be required on the body first before you could even put any film insert in. Moreover, Ebay etc are drowning in old film cameras that (with some exceptions) no-one wants, and if you buy one that does not work, buy another, and then another until you find one that does - it won't cost much.
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Before you laugh, give me ten minutes and i can show you 10 different ways to do this
It has been 5 hours now, and you have not shown your solution yet. I shall be very interested when you do.
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here is a hint guys..

If you take a camera made for film its not hard to do. A media player the size of a 35 cannister can hold as much data as you want it to.

WIth digital if you can fit in a KODAK APS cartridge, your 90% of the way
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