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02-02-2009, 12:56 PM   #1
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Hey guys, not a lot about this film on this forum.
I found this site Neal Currie - Fine Art Photography while browsing his ebay store. On the left navigation menu click on the "35mm vs. 6x4.5 vs. 6x7" and look at the comparison of the TechPan to TMX and MF films (scroll down and look at the examples). The resolution and grain on this film is amazing! Especially compared to the 35mm TMX
I know its been discontinued, unfortunately, but replaced with Rollei ATP which looks pretty good.
Theres a little bit of it being sold on ebay but its going for quite a large chunk of change.

Anyway just thought it was an interesting comparison, with all pentax gear too!

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Technical Pan was an amazing film. Hard to process, but amazing none-the-less. I used it in the early to mid-'80s with good results. Too bad it is no longer being manufactured. RIP...

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Yes, it is a pitty it isn't made anymore.

You may find it interesting to look at my post
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/316913-post24.html in this forum.
(https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/316914-post25.html for 5062 dpi crops)

I used an Adox 20 CMS film (which is said to even outperform the Technical Pan) and compared to Fuji Velvia 50 and K20D ISO100 digital.

I now have a roll of Kodak T-Max 100 and have yet to see how it compares
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Thanks, I read your posts a few weeks ago, very interesting. I was extremely impressed with the k20d, maybe some day I'll own one
I liked this guys site because it compares 135 TMX, the TechPan, 645, and 67. And if you look at the examples, the TechPan comes fairly close in resolution to the medium formats and the 35mm TMX is way behind.

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TechPan is not made anymore, but there is Rollei ATP which is quite similar.

Also TMax or Delta 100 exposed as 50 should give you similar results.
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QuoteOriginally posted by titrisol Quote
Also TMax or Delta 100 exposed as 50 should give you similar results.
This is interesting. I heard something similiar too (that proper development is decisive).
How do you get it developped properly? I don't have my darkchamber stuff anymore. So, I would have to get it developped off site. Where would I find a Lab and what would I tell them?
This is why I used the Adox 20 CMS. Because it sells with development included. But very expensive
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TMAX 100 developed in Xtol or Rodinal 1+100 is as close as youll get
Since you are in germany check in macodirekt.de for rollei ATP film, incredibly fine grained.
They also their their developer which is SPUR chemistry.

QuoteOriginally posted by falconeye Quote
This is interesting. I heard something similiar too (that proper development is decisive).
How do you get it developped properly? I don't have my darkchamber stuff anymore. So, I would have to get it developped off site. Where would I find a Lab and what would I tell them?
This is why I used the Adox 20 CMS. Because it sells with development included. But very expensive
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QuoteOriginally posted by titrisol Quote
TMAX 100 developed in Xtol or Rodinal 1+100 is as close as youll get [...] macodirekt.de
Thanks a lot for this info. I do highly appreciate it.

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QuoteOriginally posted by zplus Quote
Kodak Technical Pan
Hey guys, not a lot about this film on this forum.
I found this site Neal Currie - Fine Art Photography while browsing his ebay store. On the left navigation menu click on the "35mm vs. 6x4.5 vs. 6x7" and look at the comparison of the TechPan to TMX and MF films (scroll down and look at the examples). The resolution and grain on this film is amazing! Especially compared to the 35mm TMX
I know its been discontinued, unfortunately, but replaced with Rollei ATP which looks pretty good.
Theres a little bit of it being sold on ebay but its going for quite a large chunk of change.

Anyway just thought it was an interesting comparison, with all pentax gear too!
I still have two 35 meter rolls of TechPan deep frozen - that should last for a while...

One of the wonderful aspects of TP is not only, that it is more or less grainless, it has an extended red response, which give a richer tonality, especially for Summer and Autumn scenes and portraits.

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Tech Pan

I have maybe 30 rolls of 35mm TP in the fridge that I've been saving, but I just recently won another 30 rolls on ebay for $165, which was amazing considering it included the Technidol to develop all of it. I was thinking that, since I got my 645NII, I didn't need to be so discretionary about using up the TP--I figured Ilford Pan F in 645 should enlarge as nice as the TP in 35mm--but this link you've given us shows just how amazing TP is.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Buffy Quote
but this link you've given us shows just how amazing TP is.
I don't remember where I downloaded this document. It compares Gigabit, Kodak Tmax 100, Kodak Technical Pan with each other and is an issue of Leica Magazine 3/2001 in German language.

Its summary in one sentence: at 50% contrast, all three resolve 100 lp/mm (which is about the level of resolution of the digital K20D), while at lower contrast, the better spec'd films resolve better.

I attach a copy for a limited period of time. Please, store a copy for your convenience.

UPDATE:
This is a table published by Zeiss, Oberkochen, in 2004 (measured with a Zeiss ZM lens):

Gigabitfilm: 400 lp/mm
Agfaortho 25: 250 lp/mm
Fujichrome Velvia 100 F: 170 lp/mm
Fuji Neopan Acros 100: 160 lp/mm
Kodak Farbwelt 100: 160 lp/mm
Kodak Falbwelt 400: 160 lp/mm
Kodak Tech Pan: 140 lp/mm
Kodak Supra 400: 100 lp/mm
Kodak Supra 800: 80 lp/mm
Maco Ortho PO 100: 80 lp/mm

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Yep, Rollei ATP is also in the 300lpm range.
I need to find the source though

No need to cry over a dead film, there are a few others left and I believe is better to keep the current companies alive.
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QuoteOriginally posted by titrisol Quote
TMAX 100 developed in Xtol or Rodinal 1+100 is as close as youll get
Since you are in germany check in macodirekt.de for rollei ATP film, incredibly fine grained.
They also their their developer which is SPUR chemistry.
Iíll try this Rollei ATP as well. Thanks again for the info
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There is a flickr group about Rollei ATP pictures and some chatter there
Also this picture from my flickr stream:


QuoteOriginally posted by Jonson PL Quote
Iíll try this Rollei ATP as well. Thanks again for the info
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