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02-17-2009, 04:07 PM   #1
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Fujicolor Professional 400

Does anyone have experience with the Fujicolor Professional 400 ?
I never used a color negative film.
Should I slightly underexpose or overexpose ?
What is its behaviour in artificial or mixed light ?

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I've only used the superia 400 with crappy lenses, years ago. Pretty noticeable grain, not the best for outdoors, strong orange cast under tungsten lights. It's better to overexpose, everyone says for negative films; I shoot manually and rate the film as it is.

I'd consider rating it at 320 (I click below 400 on the ISO dial/selector), and go from there. Negative film has much more range than slide or digital, so it's easier to reel in highlights; but once shadows block up, they'll show bad grain if you try to boost them in post processing.

Personally, if I'm going to break the ISO 200 barrier, I stick to black and white, and focus on light and form.
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for me, i love high speed film. more versatile in my opinion.

i have 20 rolls of PRO 400H in my freezer. it's good stuff, very natural colours.
with any negative film, it is always better to overexpose than to underexpose because you get some more grainy shadows. however, i did a few experiments with 400H deliberately underexposing a stop and the results weren't too bad.

400H is a very popular wedding film because of the more natural colors. as well, if you deliberately super overexpose, you can get a bit of a dreamy effect.

a few of my test photos, first 2 are +1 EV and i think the last one is -1EV







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QuoteOriginally posted by k100d Quote
for me, i love high speed film. more versatile in my opinion.

i have 20 rolls of PRO 400H in my freezer. it's good stuff, very natural colours.
with any negative film, it is always better to overexpose than to underexpose because you get some more grainy shadows. however, i did a few experiments with 400H deliberately underexposing a stop and the results weren't too bad.

400H is a very popular wedding film because of the more natural colors. as well, if you deliberately super overexpose, you can get a bit of a dreamy effect.

a few of my test photos, first 2 are +1 EV and i think the last one is -1EV
Maybe I've let past experiences sour me; maybe looking at colour scans on a 22" monitor unnecessarily exaggerates the grain. Or maybe I'm more willing to accept grain in B&W photos. Those shots look pretty good, nice reds. I shoot colour for about 1/3 my stuff, so when I do I'm willing to deal with the hassle of slower film.

But I've also started to create and work will smaller res. files, as the output (.jpegs or prints) rarely go above 1600 x 1100, or an 8x10. With images this size, grain isn't so apparent. Maybe it's time to venture into high speed colour film again.

I'm in rehab from a stint with digital.

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i cannot be 100% sure of the grain. the place i usually take it to has grainy scans in general, so i'm not sure exactly how sharp 400H can be. then the place i had these photos processed, they oversharpened the scans. i think i need a real film scanner.
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Samples of the grain. I agree, the colors are very natural and I like the film.

However, I'm not sure how much better/different this is than the cheaper Kodak Ultramax:




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With color negative film, generally giving it an extra third or half-stop of speed is a good practice. It's generally going to be *extremely* tolerant of overexposure, (compared to digital or slide film) anyway, and you get benefit in shadows from a little extra. Two thirds of a stop more exposure is rarely unreasonable. Diminishing returns after that, in many cases.
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Thank you all for your advises !
I'll try it in march, when the sun comes back

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[QUOTE=k100d;493124]for me, i love high speed film. more versatile in my opinion.

i have 20 rolls of PRO 400H in my freezer. it's good stuff, very natural colours.
with any negative film, it is always better to overexpose than to underexpose because you get some more grainy shadows. however, i did a few experiments with 400H deliberately underexposing a stop and the results weren't too bad.

400H is a very popular wedding film because of the more natural colors. as well, if you deliberately super overexpose, you can get a bit of a dreamy effect.

a few of my test photos, first 2 are +1 EV and i think the last one is -1EV


How long can you store film in the freezer,and how long after you defrost do you use it?Also doesn't the freezer adversely effect it?


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you can store film for a very long time in the freezer. it prevents the degradation of the chemicals. usually i would transfer some to the fridge and when i need it, i take the film from the fridge. it warms up pretty quick from the fridge.
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I have film that has been frozen for close to eight years now, and the results are just as good as a fresh roll. I always let it thaw completely overnight to come up to the room temperature. Just don't expect to go from the freezer directly to the camera!

And keep your eyes open at local grocery stores for closeout prices to keep your stock up in the freezer. It won't be "pro" film, but I've regularly found Kodachrome, Ektachrome, as well as the typical consumer films on sale at the grocery store or pharmacy. $1.99 for a 4- or 5-pack of film is my most recent buy. And I did buy the whole stock of something like 20+ boxes of it!

Now if I could only find processing/scanning that I liked that was as good of a deal...
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QuoteOriginally posted by k100d Quote
i cannot be 100% sure of the grain. the place i usually take it to has grainy scans in general, so i'm not sure exactly how sharp 400H can be. then the place i had these photos processed, they oversharpened the scans. i think i need a real film scanner.
QuoteOriginally posted by harfooz:
Now if I could only find processing/scanning that I liked that was as good of a deal...
Consider the Dörr Slide Duplicator (100 € + 10 € for negative carrier) : Translated site link.

1.Scanned with Reflecta i1800 as Tif 1800dpi.


2. Shot with my K20D, slide duplicator and Metz 48 AF-1 as slave. This is the correct color !

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got some new stuff back, the grain isn't bad at all. it's of course not as nice as DSLR ISO 400, but the colors look better imo
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100% crop of 3000x2000 Noritsu Scan



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QuoteOriginally posted by fs999 Quote
Consider the Dörr Slide Duplicator (100 € + 10 € for negative carrier) : Translated site link.
can't do negatives tho
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