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06-01-2020, 09:34 AM - 7 Likes   #20806
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QuoteOriginally posted by cooltouch Quote
I have a 4990, which was the immediate predecessor to the V750. Forget about the exaggerated resolution claims that Epson (and others) tout regarding their flatbed scanners. Mine supposedly has 4800x9600 dpi resolution with a 4.0 DMax. Even though it did a decent job of scanning negatives and slides, I was never quite happy with it because I could tell, just by looking through a loupe, that the 4990 was not generating the sort of resolution I was seeing with my loupe. After doing quite a bit of research on the subject, I found out that the 4990's real resolution is something like 2000 pixels per inch and that the V750's is only about 2200 to 2300 ppi.

But one thing I did find that sort of blurred these values was, if I scanned at maximum resolution, the gradient in colors that was recorded was quite a bit finer than the resolution the printer was supposedly recording. So, suddenly it was no longer clear what actual resolution was anymore once the gradation of colors got tossed into the mix. I suppose if I want to look at edge definition, I need to use the lower resolution number, but if I'm looking at color depth, I need to be aware of a noticeably higher number. Perhaps this contributes to the "wet" look you mention, since there is a noticeably smoother flow of color at higher scanner resolutions.

These days, I use my 4990 for medium format scanning, which it does an excellent job at, and I duplicate my 35mm negatives and slides with my 24.3 mp Sony NEX 7. 24.3 mp gives me 4000 x 6000 pixel images. I find the reproductions using my duplication setup to be very faithful to the originals.
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QuoteOriginally posted by womble Quote
I'm very envious of the results you get from your scanning / editing. I never quite manage to get such a great look (and never mind the content).
Yeah, me too!

And thanks for the thoughts regarding scanners, all. It makes sense what Colton and others have said.
I use the V700 and am mostly happy with it. The most annoying problem I have is film flatness issues, especially 120. I find that it often sags in the holders and it can be a battle to get a flat scan. This is even when using the fancy Betterscanning holders

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QuoteOriginally posted by goddo31 Quote
Yeah, me too!

And thanks for the thoughts regarding scanners, all. It makes sense what Colton and others have said.
I use the V700 and am mostly happy with it. The most annoying problem I have is film flatness issues, especially 120. I find that it often sags in the holders and it can be a battle to get a flat scan. This is even when using the fancy Betterscanning holders

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Interesting that you should mention that!
I have the Epson V850 and it has film holders with anti-newton glass to keep the film flatter.
I've ordered the V700 holder since the sharpness from my scans was disappointing and the results are looking better to my eyes.
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QuoteOriginally posted by jschoonj Quote
Interesting that you should mention that!
I have the Epson V850 and it has film holders with anti-newton glass to keep the film flatter.
I've ordered the V700 holder since the sharpness from my scans was disappointing and the results are looking better to my eyes.
So you've ordered the standard Epson film holder from the V700/750?
Interesting indeed. I prefer to use the Betterscanning holder as it's a bit more sturdy and adjustable. I think the standard film holder can sometimes do a better job of holding the film tight to avoid sagging though. Really I wish there was an easier solution that worked all the time. I get frustrated having to re-scan after the film sags in the holder or the level isn't quite right etc. I find it varies a lot with each roll - whether the film sags or curls etc.
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QuoteOriginally posted by goddo31 Quote
So you've ordered the standard Epson film holder from the V700/750?
Interesting indeed. I prefer to use the Betterscanning holder as it's a bit more sturdy and adjustable. I think the standard film holder can sometimes do a better job of holding the film tight to avoid sagging though. Really I wish there was an easier solution that worked all the time. I get frustrated having to re-scan after the film sags in the holder or the level isn't quite right etc. I find it varies a lot with each roll - whether the film sags or curls etc.
Yes, and the scans I've done with the V700 holder are sharper and have better color fidelity to my eye.
I've yet to do a direct comparison with scans that I did with V800 holder though.
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Like this, the lighting is perfect!

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Like this, the lighting is perfect!

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Took a fair bit of judicious pp to pull it up.
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I've ordered the V700 holder since the sharpness from my scans was disappointing and the results are looking better to my eyes.
The folk at scandig had a similar experience with the new holders vs. the old.


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QuoteOriginally posted by stevebrot Quote
The folk at scandig had a similar experience with the new holders vs. the old.


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Looks like I spoke too soon.
I'm scanning some Pro 400H now, which slumps quite a bit more than the Ektar I did before.
Seeing way better results on the V800 holders now.

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