:cool: Lets see those ''film'' shots

Jonathan Mac · 01-21-2021, 02:38 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by jschoonj

I understand your doubtfulness and you're not wrong. it's very much a rose-colored glasses take.
Fuji still does have some color film production lines and good R&D, so I imagine they would make a reformulation themselves. I don't really see a problem there.
They might have even have an empty production line if they didn't resort to chugging out more C200 to motivate them to do so.

However as you state, it needs to make sense in the current market. If they think it will turn a (significant) profit for them, we'll see something down the line is my hope.
The time of Fujifilm priding themselves on being a film manufacturer, or doing this out of some sense of prestige are long gone obviously.

Only Fuji know what things cost to develop and produce but film photography is on the rise so if they could release something onto the market then they could expect it's sales to increase in line with demand. Kodak are releasing or re-releasing films and have stated they are working on others.

We'll see, but I don't think Fuji have the will to develop anything new.

dsmithhfx · 01-21-2021, 04:15 AM - **4 Likes**

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**gofour3** · 01-21-2021, 08:36 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Jonathan Mac

We'll see, but I don't think Fuji have the will to develop anything new.

Yeah they seam to be heading in a downward direction in film choices, while Kodak is going upward. A reversal of a decade or so.

Phil.

HoodedOne · 01-21-2021, 09:33 AM - **10 Likes**

Ondu 8x10 on fuji HRT X-Ray film

photocles · 01-21-2021, 10:06 AM

Originally posted by HoodedOne

Ondu 8x10 on fuji HRT X-Ray film

Beautiful! And, welcome to the forum.

Huss · 01-21-2021, 11:51 AM - **5 Likes**

Olympus Pen FT, 40mm 1.4, Fuji C200

**richard0170** · 01-21-2021, 12:13 PM

Originally posted by Jonathan Mac

We'll see, but I don't think Fuji have the will to develop anything new.

One suspects that Fuji are slowly letting go of their film lines as they want you to buy their digital cameras with their "Film simulations", which, though very nice, do not look like the film stocks at all to me.

Huss · 01-21-2021, 01:13 PM

Originally posted by richard0170

One suspects that Fuji are slowly letting go of their film lines as they want you to buy their digital cameras with their "Film simulations", which, though very nice, do not look like the film stocks at all to me.

Here is a great comparison of film vs fuji simulations.
The film blows the sim away IMO

Fujifilm X-Pro3 Acros-R digital vs. 35mm Acros 100II - By Dale Rogers - 35mmc

dsmithhfx · 01-21-2021, 01:50 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by gofour3

Yeah they seam to be heading in a downward direction in film choices, while Kodak is going upward. A reversal of a decade or so.

Phil.

Yeah except ... "Kodak" ain't Kodak as we knew it, and "Fujifilm" is probably better known now for a pretty compelling line of digicams.

**gofour3** · 01-21-2021, 02:37 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by dsmithhfx

Yeah except ... "Kodak" ain't Kodak as we knew it

Yep just like the Pentax brand name.

Phil.

womble · 01-21-2021, 03:43 PM - **3 Likes**

St Helen's, Wheathampstead.

Ondu multiformat pinhole camera with offset baffles, Ilford Delta 400, red filter, commercial dev and scan.

St Helen's, Wheathampstead par Kris Lockyear, on ipernity

photocles · 01-21-2021, 03:49 PM

Originally posted by womble

Ondu multiformat pinhole camera with offset baffles

That's pretty cool. It basically turns into a shift pinhole camera. I never would have thought of using it that way.

womble · 01-21-2021, 04:14 PM

Originally posted by photocles

That's pretty cool. It basically turns into a shift pinhole camera. I never would have thought of using it that way.

Exactly. And thankfully one can just use the 6x9 markings on the backing paper and it works out fine. It does tend to mean you shoot all eight images portrait. The vignetting at the extreme end looks fine in the sky or in the ceiling of a building, but weird when it's just the right hand end of the image.

---------- Post added 01-21-21 at 11:19 PM ----------

Originally posted by HoodedOne

Ondu 8x10 on fuji HRT X-Ray film

Really nice. 8x10 pinhole is pretty hard core. How much "front rise" does it have?

Aaron28 · 01-21-2021, 06:25 PM - **3 Likes**

reckon it's "street photography" in color.....random peoples at the park
Pentax ES.....smc takumar 85/f1.8.....expired fuji superia x-tra400....developed at local shop....scanned espon v600 at home

**richard0170** · 01-22-2021, 12:47 AM

Originally posted by Huss

Here is a great comparison of film vs fuji simulations.
The film blows the sim away IMO

Fujifilm X-Pro3 Acros-R digital vs. 35mm Acros 100II - By Dale Rogers - 35mmc

Some of the film shots did blow the sims. away, but others were surprisingly close in appearance. That being said I am sure with a bit more practice with the XPro3 settings he could have got more consistency out of the Acros simulation. I may have to revise my earlier assertion to "the Fuji colour film simulations do not look at all like the films they are meant to represent". To be honest I would not want them to. I want film to have its own unique look.
I am currently mourning not being able to get Fuji Superior in any film speed in 120 format for my Yashica 124G. I loved shooting that stuff on that camera for landscapes.

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01-21-2021, 02:38 AM - 1 Like	#22006
Jonathan Mac Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 10,910	Originally posted by jschoonj I understand your doubtfulness and you're not wrong. it's very much a rose-colored glasses take. Fuji still does have some color film production lines and good R&D, so I imagine they would make a reformulation themselves. I don't really see a problem there. They might have even have an empty production line if they didn't resort to chugging out more C200 to motivate them to do so. However as you state, it needs to make sense in the current market. If they think it will turn a (significant) profit for them, we'll see something down the line is my hope. The time of Fujifilm priding themselves on being a film manufacturer, or doing this out of some sense of prestige are long gone obviously. Only Fuji know what things cost to develop and produce but film photography is on the rise so if they could release something onto the market then they could expect it's sales to increase in line with demand. Kodak are releasing or re-releasing films and have stated they are working on others. We'll see, but I don't think Fuji have the will to develop anything new.

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gofour3 Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 8,092	Originally posted by Jonathan Mac We'll see, but I don't think Fuji have the will to develop anything new. Yeah they seam to be heading in a downward direction in film choices, while Kodak is going upward. A reversal of a decade or so. Phil.

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photocles Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Connacht, Ireland Photos: Gallery Posts: 458	Originally posted by HoodedOne Ondu 8x10 on fuji HRT X-Ray film Beautiful! And, welcome to the forum.

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01-21-2021, 12:13 PM	#22012
richard0170 Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2017 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,034	Originally posted by Jonathan Mac We'll see, but I don't think Fuji have the will to develop anything new. One suspects that Fuji are slowly letting go of their film lines as they want you to buy their digital cameras with their "Film simulations", which, though very nice, do not look like the film stocks at all to me.

01-21-2021, 01:13 PM	#22013
Huss Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 629	Originally posted by richard0170 One suspects that Fuji are slowly letting go of their film lines as they want you to buy their digital cameras with their "Film simulations", which, though very nice, do not look like the film stocks at all to me. Here is a great comparison of film vs fuji simulations. The film blows the sim away IMO Fujifilm X-Pro3 Acros-R digital vs. 35mm Acros 100II - By Dale Rogers - 35mmc

01-21-2021, 01:50 PM - 1 Like	#22014
dsmithhfx Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Toronto Posts: 5,153	Originally posted by gofour3 Yeah they seam to be heading in a downward direction in film choices, while Kodak is going upward. A reversal of a decade or so. Phil. Yeah except ... "Kodak" ain't Kodak as we knew it, and "Fujifilm" is probably better known now for a pretty compelling line of digicams.

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gofour3 Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 8,092	Originally posted by dsmithhfx Yeah except ... "Kodak" ain't Kodak as we knew it Yep just like the Pentax brand name. Phil.

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photocles Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Connacht, Ireland Photos: Gallery Posts: 458	Originally posted by womble Ondu multiformat pinhole camera with offset baffles That's pretty cool. It basically turns into a shift pinhole camera. I never would have thought of using it that way.

01-21-2021, 04:14 PM	#22018
womble Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Hertfordshire Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,324	Originally posted by photocles That's pretty cool. It basically turns into a shift pinhole camera. I never would have thought of using it that way. Exactly. And thankfully one can just use the 6x9 markings on the backing paper and it works out fine. It does tend to mean you shoot all eight images portrait. The vignetting at the extreme end looks fine in the sky or in the ceiling of a building, but weird when it's just the right hand end of the image. ---------- Post added 01-21-21 at 11:19 PM ---------- Originally posted by HoodedOne Ondu 8x10 on fuji HRT X-Ray film Really nice. 8x10 pinhole is pretty hard core. How much "front rise" does it have?

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01-22-2021, 12:47 AM	#22020
richard0170 Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2017 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,034	Originally posted by Huss Here is a great comparison of film vs fuji simulations. The film blows the sim away IMO Fujifilm X-Pro3 Acros-R digital vs. 35mm Acros 100II - By Dale Rogers - 35mmc Some of the film shots did blow the sims. away, but others were surprisingly close in appearance. That being said I am sure with a bit more practice with the XPro3 settings he could have got more consistency out of the Acros simulation. I may have to revise my earlier assertion to "the Fuji colour film simulations do not look at all like the films they are meant to represent". To be honest I would not want them to. I want film to have its own unique look. I am currently mourning not being able to get Fuji Superior in any film speed in 120 format for my Yashica 124G. I loved shooting that stuff on that camera for landscapes.