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08-19-2015, 10:41 AM   #11746
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QuoteOriginally posted by chickentender Quote
Oh don't be silly. Come on man. Of course it's ridiculous with the giant 67 glass out there, but on that day I had my 67 with me with three lenses (as I was shooting mostly MF) and brought my LX along with just the 43mm. I decided I wanted something with more reach for some portrait tests and a couple closeups on bees among the lavender blossoms at sundown, and I had spent my 120 rolls aleady... I didn't have any other small format lenses with me but did have the 90 and 165 67 along for the ride. Worked out pretty well.
I was making generality. It seems so many people think they are going to get something special ( you can - tilt, shift) with medium format lenses on small format yet non stop to think that in the long history of film people would have been doing for the last 50 years if was so good. But you really don't see many people doing, no?

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QuoteOriginally posted by tuco Quote
Perhaps consider the reasons you are shooting small format over say medium format, for instance.
I'm shooting both. It just comes down to "Which roll of film do I want to use today."
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QuoteOriginally posted by skierd Quote
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That is a LOVELY image!

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QuoteOriginally posted by tuco Quote
I was making generality. It seems so many people think they are going to get something special ( you can - tilt, shift) with medium format lenses on small format yet non stop to think that in the long history of film people would have been doing for the last 50 years if was so good. But you really don't see many people doing, no?
I really don't know - I've not heard anyone talk about seeking it out for a specialized reason but I don't really pay attention all that much. I initially bought the k-adapter for the specific purpose or using my 67 135mm macro on small format because i do not have a K mount lens that covers fullframe in that neighborhood, so I was just remarking that the result was phenomenal to my eye with the 90mm and the shots I took with the combo (particularly with the 90mm not being known as one of the sharper or more special lenses in the 67 lineup) was every bit as good as I'd have seen with the 77mm or 105mm k-mount, if not a bit sharper. Far from technical, and my remarks never are. But having options like the adapter presents are fantastic, especially when they aren't really a compromise.

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I guess the take-away for me here is simply that the adapter is far more useful than I anticipated for settings like I mentioned; packing along an MX or the LX (or 135 whathaveyou) is certainly lighter/smaller/less-costly than bringing along another MF 67 body. I suppose the best of worlds would be a 645 (with that adapter), but then I don't have either of those.

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(you're absolutely right however, in that i'd never pack along 67 lenses for use on the 135 bodies only when proper k-mounts do the job at 1/3 (probably less) the bulk/weight. *that* would be silly.)


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QuoteOriginally posted by chickentender Quote
... I was just remarking that the result was phenomenal to my eye with the 90mm and the shots I took with the combo (particularly with the 90mm not being known as one of the sharper or more special lenses in the 67 lineup) was every bit as good as I'd have seen with the 77mm or 105mm k-mount ...
Yes, I think the 90mm on the 6x7 is little under rated for that platform. But of course you don't see the edges of that lens on a smaller format. I have the 6x7 90mm and 6x7 Super Tak 90mm LS as well as a pile of other 6x7 lenses.

On the 6x7, the 90mm can do near-to-far stopped down to f19 pretty good as shown here. The next lens, the 105mm, is just a bit too long to get as much near in pretty sharp focus stopped down.


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QuoteOriginally posted by chickentender Quote
Oh don't be silly. Come on man. Of course it's ridiculous with the giant 67 glass out there, but on that day I had my 67 with me with three lenses (as I was shooting mostly MF) and brought my LX along with just the 43mm. I decided I wanted something with more reach for some portrait tests and a couple closeups on bees among the lavender blossoms at sundown, and I had spent my 120 rolls already (*edit - no that's not true - I only had B&W with me in MF and wanted color and happened to have a fresh roll of portra in the LX)... I didn't have any other small format lenses with me but did have the 90 and 165 67 along for the ride. Worked out pretty well.
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And to slap such large medium format lenses on 35mm body kind of defeats those reasons

How about a 35mm lens on a 6x7? For extra macro magnification I have reversed my Super Takumar 28/3.5 on my 67ii and I get over 5:1 magnification, something you could not achive with any 6x7 lens.

The results were quite good:

Super Takumar 28/3.5 & Pentax 67ii shooting Fuji Provia 400x slide film:



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QuoteOriginally posted by gofour3 Quote
How about a 35mm lens on a 6x7? For extra macro magnification I have reversed my Super Takumar 28/3.5 on my 67ii and I get over 5:1 magnification, something you could not achive with any 6x7 lens.

The results were quite good:

Super Takumar 28/3.5 & Pentax 67ii shooting Fuji Provia 400x slide film:



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Phil - cool, but what IS that?

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(also, I so very much wish they'd bring back Provia 400x)
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QuoteOriginally posted by chickentender Quote
Phil - cool, but what IS that?

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(also, I so very much wish they'd bring back Provia 400x)
Sorry I should have mentioned the round glass object with the bumps is a bead, about the size of pea. It has a hole on each side so you can put a string through and make jewellery.

I bought a sample pack from a store so i could do some macro test shots.

Yes it's too bad about Provia 400x, luckily I have a freezer full of 135 & 120, so I'm OK for a couple years.

Phil.

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QuoteOriginally posted by gofour3 Quote
How about a 35mm lens on a 6x7? For extra macro magnification I have reversed my Super Takumar 28/3.5 on my 67ii and I get over 5:1 magnification, something you could not achive with any 6x7 lens.

The results were quite good:

Super Takumar 28/3.5 & Pentax 67ii shooting Fuji Provia 400x slide film:



Phil.
I did something similar a couple of years ago. I used a SMC Pentax-A 35-105 set at 35mm and reverse mounted directly to my 67.

This is about a 1:5 macro of a HotWheels car.
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I second that. I shoot it on my Lubitel 166+ in 6x6 and lately also on the P67. The colors are wacko and sometimes pure magic but the negs are dirty and full of artifacts which lovely Kodak negs doesn't have. So no more Lomo800 for me too. I spent too much dough on development that I want clean negs @ minimum! Sorry for Lomo but cheap chinese film doesn't do good for the film community. I would like to pay more for it if they put some more Quality into the canisters.
I'm still really curious as to who's making it. I didn't know that there were still any Chinese companies making colour stock after Lucky stopped production of theirs a few years back. (And even then, to my knowledge Lucky only produced as fast as 400 ISO.)
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QuoteOriginally posted by Swift1 Quote
I did something similar a couple of years ago. I used a SMC Pentax-A 35-105 set at 35mm and reverse mounted directly to my 67.

This is about a 1:5 macro of a HotWheels car.
That looks good, I even played with Hot Wheels when I was a kid. A big orange track with loops where the cars would always fall off, I think my cat was more impressed than I was!

Phil.
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THIS has such a Road warrior feeling. Evocative, I LIKE.
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THIS has such a Road warrior feeling. Evocative, I LIKE.
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Kiev-4A.
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