:cool: Lets see those ''film'' shots

**gofour3** · 10-08-2015, 09:46 PM

Originally posted by Swift1

I took this photo earlier today, ad it's nearly my favorite photo I've ever taken.
My friend John owns a small car dealership along with his wife and twin brother. Th dealership office is a very small, basically 3 room building. John and his brother Bob have the end offices, ad John's wife has the middle room, which serves as the entrance/reception area. The front door is right in the center of the room, and then the doorways to the endrooms are directly right and left from there.
Awhile ago, I noticed that if you're in just the right spot, right in the front doorway, you can just see both John and Bob working at their desks. I had the idea to try and get a photo of all three in a single image.
Today I was down there and had the Widelux with (with one frame left in the camera) and so I decided to try the photo.

I shot this without using a viewfinder (or a meter), handheld at 1/15s and f/11. This is basically the entire frame, no cropping or rotating.

Widelux F7
Mitsubishi MX III 200
Epson V750-M Pro

Yes well done, also like the sunlight coming through the back door!

Phil.

**Jacquot** · 10-09-2015, 04:28 AM

Very nice Colton. Symmetry and asymmetry. I like the dog, too. Those two chairs really reinforce the symmetry, and are like two more characters in the image, and hen there are all the subtleties and differences. Just great. Bravo for the handheld capture! You know what you are doing. I guess the photo on the wall is of John and Bob, too.

dsmithhfx · 10-09-2015, 06:08 AM

spotmatic sp, jupiter-9 85/f2 (likely at ~f8), superia 400

**gofour3** · 10-09-2015, 07:33 AM

Originally posted by dsmithhfx

spotmatic sp, jupiter-9 85/f2 (likely at ~f8), superia 400

That looks like an old one, where was it taken?

Phil.

dsmithhfx · 10-09-2015, 08:24 AM

Originally posted by gofour3

That looks like an old one, where was it taken?

Phil.

Yonge & Bloor

Swift1 · 10-09-2015, 10:07 AM

Originally posted by chickentender

Worthy of being in the running for favorite. You even got the dog! Fantastic shot, man.

Thanks Kevin.

Originally posted by arnold

That came out very well. Is the Widelux like the Horizon?

Yes, both the Horizon and the Widelux are swing lens panoramic cameras. They very similar but very different, if that makes sense.

Originally posted by gofour3

Yes well done, also like the sunlight coming through the back door!

Thanks Phil.

Phil.

Originally posted by Jacquot

Very nice Colton. Symmetry and asymmetry. I like the dog, too. Those two chairs really reinforce the symmetry, and are like two more characters in the image, and hen there are all the subtleties and differences. Just great. Bravo for the handheld capture! You know what you are doing. I guess the photo on the wall is of John and Bob, too.

Thank you David.
I think the photo on the wall is actually Neal Cassady and someone else.

stevebrot · 10-09-2015, 10:16 AM

Originally posted by Cuthbert

I never shimmed any of my SU lenses and they all work fine with all my cameras...am I lucky?

Perhaps! The matter has been tossed around the rangefinder forum at length for a number of years and there are multiple articles on the Web regarding such by many reputable people. Here is the summary:

The issue is with FSU LTM lenses on non-FSU bodies. FSU lenses on FSU bodies work fine.
The full explanation is quite long and is related to the Zeiss vs. Leica standards
Apparently the coupling cam on the lens extends at a different rate on the FSU lenses. The result is backfocus at moderate to close distance when these lenses are mounted to German or Japanese LTM or M-mount cameras.
The problem is more severe with normal and longer lenses
Whether this is true for all FSU LTM lenses is not clear, particularly in regards to those originally sold with the Drug camera
The standard solution (pioneered by Brian Sweeney) is to shim the mechanism for the lens rangefinder cam. The details are published various places on the Web.

The difference is readily apparent when comparing the distance scales for the same lens and subject on different cameras. The gold standard (of course) is actual images on film or ground-glass at the film gate. I have a junk SLR body and am planning on scavenging the split-image focus screen from that camera to test my FSU lenses on my Canon P.

Steve

stevebrot · 10-09-2015, 10:17 AM

Originally posted by Swift1

I took this photo earlier today, ad it's nearly my favorite photo I've ever taken.
My friend John owns a small car dealership along with his wife and twin brother. Th dealership office is a very small, basically 3 room building. John and his brother Bob have the end offices, ad John's wife has the middle room, which serves as the entrance/reception area. The front door is right in the center of the room, and then the doorways to the endrooms are directly right and left from there.
Awhile ago, I noticed that if you're in just the right spot, right in the front doorway, you can just see both John and Bob working at their desks. I had the idea to try and get a photo of all three in a single image.
Today I was down there and had the Widelux with (with one frame left in the camera) and so I decided to try the photo.

I shot this without using a viewfinder (or a meter), handheld at 1/15s and f/11. This is basically the entire frame, no cropping or rotating.

Widelux F7
Mitsubishi MX III 200
Epson V750-M Pro

What fun! You are having such a good time with the Widelux

Steve

dsmithhfx · 10-10-2015, 04:50 AM

stylus epic 35/2.8

hoopsontoast · 10-10-2015, 09:13 AM - **3 Likes**

Both MZ-S, Voigtlander 58mm f1.4 Nokton and Fujifilm RVP50

manntax · 10-10-2015, 09:15 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by hoopsontoast

Both MZ-S, Voigtlander 58mm f1.4 Nokton and Fujifilm RVP50

First one has this magical 3d pop we all strive for .. well done

Eyewanders · 10-10-2015, 10:54 AM - **4 Likes**

Originally posted by rhmimac

This is becoming a great story. Keep them coming. The modern hi tech camping stuff looks a bit daft if you see what people used in those days and where also able to stay dry and warm. The blue tone is magic.

Here's another couple from the same coast trip of my dad and his buddy Al. Some scenic shots. (Again on his ~~Nikkormat~~ Minolta on Ektachrome.)

---------- Post added 10-10-15 at 11:13 AM ----------

A few more...

Swift1 · 10-10-2015, 11:45 AM - **1 Like**

I was going through my archives and I found this one that I never really did much with.
Kashwitna Lake, Alaska. September 2011

Pentax 67
SMC Pentax 6X7 45/4
Kodak Portra 400VC

Eyewanders · 10-10-2015, 11:56 AM

Originally posted by Swift1

I was going through my archives and I found this one that I never really did much with.
Kashwitna Lake, Alaska. September 2011

Pentax 67
SMC Pentax 6X7 45/4
Kodak Portra 400VC

Ooooh - I love that one.

wkraus · 10-10-2015, 01:29 PM

Originally posted by Swift1

I was going through my archives and I found this one that I never really did much with.
Kashwitna Lake, Alaska. September 2011

Pentax 67
SMC Pentax 6X7 45/4
Kodak Portra 400VC

Great composition as usual.

10-09-2015, 10:16 AM	#12082
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by Cuthbert I never shimmed any of my SU lenses and they all work fine with all my cameras...am I lucky? Perhaps! The matter has been tossed around the rangefinder forum at length for a number of years and there are multiple articles on the Web regarding such by many reputable people. Here is the summary: The issue is with FSU LTM lenses on non-FSU bodies. FSU lenses on FSU bodies work fine. The full explanation is quite long and is related to the Zeiss vs. Leica standards Apparently the coupling cam on the lens extends at a different rate on the FSU lenses. The result is backfocus at moderate to close distance when these lenses are mounted to German or Japanese LTM or M-mount cameras. The problem is more severe with normal and longer lenses Whether this is true for all FSU LTM lenses is not clear, particularly in regards to those originally sold with the Drug camera The standard solution (pioneered by Brian Sweeney) is to shim the mechanism for the lens rangefinder cam. The details are published various places on the Web. The difference is readily apparent when comparing the distance scales for the same lens and subject on different cameras. The gold standard (of course) is actual images on film or ground-glass at the film gate. I have a junk SLR body and am planning on scavenging the split-image focus screen from that camera to test my FSU lenses on my Canon P. Steve

10-10-2015, 10:54 AM - 4 Likes	#12087
Eyewanders Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Land of the Salish Sea Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,343	Originally posted by rhmimac This is becoming a great story. Keep them coming. The modern hi tech camping stuff looks a bit daft if you see what people used in those days and where also able to stay dry and warm. The blue tone is magic. Here's another couple from the same coast trip of my dad and his buddy Al. Some scenic shots. (Again on his ~~Nikkormat~~ Minolta on Ektachrome.) ---------- Post added 10-10-15 at 11:13 AM ---------- A few more... Last edited by Eyewanders; 10-11-2015 at 04:12 PM. Reason: wrong camera cited

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10-08-2015, 09:46 PM	#12076
gofour3 Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 8,092	Originally posted by Swift1 I took this photo earlier today, ad it's nearly my favorite photo I've ever taken. My friend John owns a small car dealership along with his wife and twin brother. Th dealership office is a very small, basically 3 room building. John and his brother Bob have the end offices, ad John's wife has the middle room, which serves as the entrance/reception area. The front door is right in the center of the room, and then the doorways to the endrooms are directly right and left from there. Awhile ago, I noticed that if you're in just the right spot, right in the front doorway, you can just see both John and Bob working at their desks. I had the idea to try and get a photo of all three in a single image. Today I was down there and had the Widelux with (with one frame left in the camera) and so I decided to try the photo. I shot this without using a viewfinder (or a meter), handheld at 1/15s and f/11. This is basically the entire frame, no cropping or rotating. Widelux F7 Mitsubishi MX III 200 Epson V750-M Pro Yes well done, also like the sunlight coming through the back door! Phil.

10-09-2015, 04:28 AM	#12077
Jacquot Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sun City Center, FL Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,544	Very nice Colton. Symmetry and asymmetry. I like the dog, too. Those two chairs really reinforce the symmetry, and are like two more characters in the image, and hen there are all the subtleties and differences. Just great. Bravo for the handheld capture! You know what you are doing. I guess the photo on the wall is of John and Bob, too.

10-09-2015, 06:08 AM	#12078
dsmithhfx Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Toronto Posts: 5,153	spotmatic sp, jupiter-9 85/f2 (likely at ~f8), superia 400

10-09-2015, 07:33 AM	#12079
gofour3 Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 8,092	Originally posted by dsmithhfx spotmatic sp, jupiter-9 85/f2 (likely at ~f8), superia 400 That looks like an old one, where was it taken? Phil.

10-09-2015, 08:24 AM	#12080
dsmithhfx Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Toronto Posts: 5,153	Originally posted by gofour3 That looks like an old one, where was it taken? Phil. Yonge & Bloor

10-09-2015, 10:07 AM	#12081
Swift1 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Oregon Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,079	Originally posted by chickentender Worthy of being in the running for favorite. You even got the dog! Fantastic shot, man. Thanks Kevin. Originally posted by arnold That came out very well. Is the Widelux like the Horizon? Yes, both the Horizon and the Widelux are swing lens panoramic cameras. They very similar but very different, if that makes sense. Originally posted by gofour3 Yes well done, also like the sunlight coming through the back door! Thanks Phil. Phil. Originally posted by Jacquot Very nice Colton. Symmetry and asymmetry. I like the dog, too. Those two chairs really reinforce the symmetry, and are like two more characters in the image, and hen there are all the subtleties and differences. Just great. Bravo for the handheld capture! You know what you are doing. I guess the photo on the wall is of John and Bob, too. Thank you David. I think the photo on the wall is actually Neal Cassady and someone else.

10-09-2015, 10:17 AM	#12083
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by Swift1 I took this photo earlier today, ad it's nearly my favorite photo I've ever taken. My friend John owns a small car dealership along with his wife and twin brother. Th dealership office is a very small, basically 3 room building. John and his brother Bob have the end offices, ad John's wife has the middle room, which serves as the entrance/reception area. The front door is right in the center of the room, and then the doorways to the endrooms are directly right and left from there. Awhile ago, I noticed that if you're in just the right spot, right in the front doorway, you can just see both John and Bob working at their desks. I had the idea to try and get a photo of all three in a single image. Today I was down there and had the Widelux with (with one frame left in the camera) and so I decided to try the photo. I shot this without using a viewfinder (or a meter), handheld at 1/15s and f/11. This is basically the entire frame, no cropping or rotating. Widelux F7 Mitsubishi MX III 200 Epson V750-M Pro What fun! You are having such a good time with the Widelux Steve

10-10-2015, 04:50 AM	#12084
dsmithhfx Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Toronto Posts: 5,153	stylus epic 35/2.8

10-10-2015, 09:13 AM - 3 Likes	#12085
hoopsontoast Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 861	Both MZ-S, Voigtlander 58mm f1.4 Nokton and Fujifilm RVP50

10-10-2015, 09:15 AM - 1 Like	#12086
manntax Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Photos: Albums Posts: 1,972	Originally posted by hoopsontoast Both MZ-S, Voigtlander 58mm f1.4 Nokton and Fujifilm RVP50 First one has this magical 3d pop we all strive for .. well done

10-10-2015, 11:45 AM - 1 Like	#12088
Swift1 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Oregon Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,079	I was going through my archives and I found this one that I never really did much with. Kashwitna Lake, Alaska. September 2011 Pentax 67 SMC Pentax 6X7 45/4 Kodak Portra 400VC

10-10-2015, 11:56 AM	#12089
Eyewanders Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Land of the Salish Sea Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,343	Originally posted by Swift1 I was going through my archives and I found this one that I never really did much with. Kashwitna Lake, Alaska. September 2011 Pentax 67 SMC Pentax 6X7 45/4 Kodak Portra 400VC Ooooh - I love that one.

10-10-2015, 01:29 PM	#12090
wkraus Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Near Vienna, Austria Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,065	Originally posted by Swift1 I was going through my archives and I found this one that I never really did much with. Kashwitna Lake, Alaska. September 2011 Pentax 67 SMC Pentax 6X7 45/4 Kodak Portra 400VC Great composition as usual.