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08-11-2009, 02:47 PM   #1231
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QuoteOriginally posted by Gooshin Quote
well then, he is not doing film justice!


this is why i bother with film, not a single spec of white, and you can still perfectly see the texture in the stone, this type of shot would bend over any DSLR.

Gooshin,

That is a beautiful scan. Did you do it with your Nikon Super Coolscan 5000 ED? I have the same model and really like how easy it is to produce a high resolution, high dynamic range image. Too bad it costs more than most people want to pay for a scanner! The next step down the ladder would be one of the Plustek models, but they can't deliver the dynamic range or resolution. Ditto for the high end Epson V700 flatbed.

So, what does a person do that decides to not pony-up the $850 (used) price of a 5000 ED? Are there any magical techniques? I know that if you buy the higher-end Plustek bundled with Silverfast Ai studio, they have a multi-exposure setting that allows you to stretch the DR. Sadly, you are in the $500 range for that product.

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(Overspent when I got my Coolscan 5000 ED...)

(P.S. This discussion should probably be moved to a separate thread...hardly consists of posted pics does it?)

Edit: New thread started...https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-film-slr-discussion/69664-stretchi...mic-range.html


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08-11-2009, 02:52 PM   #1232
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All of my photos are scanned using the Nikon 5000ED.

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there are no real tricks, just figure out how the scanner does exposure, and how some of the settings affect it.

for instance, with Veuscan, you could "scan the basefilm colour" which would then impact the white balance of the scan, i have experimented with this greatly, and i'm still not satisfied.

Nikon Scan 4 has these "GEM, REM and some other settings", they also have a weird impact on overall exposure, particulary highlights.

I stopped using nikon scan for now because at times it would start to blow out highlights for no apperant reason.

also nikon scan seems to be really bad for black and white photos (blows ou the highlights)


TECHNICALLY, the whole process should be plug and play, but thats only after you figure out how your software works.

i cant offer more advice because i'm still learning.. sorry,
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Here is the new thread that I started for the topic on DR optimization...

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-film-slr-discussion/69664-stretchi...mic-range.html

Strange as it may seem, not all scanners are created equal in this department. The Nikon 5000 ED has a deliverable density range of 4.8. This is 30% better than the Plustek 7500i and 20% better than the Epson V700.

Things tend to go down from there...

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I just acquired a Minolta Elite 5400 and I have also a Minolta Dual Scan IV. I use both with Vuescan and I am happy with the result (to some extend).

Cheers,

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QuoteOriginally posted by Nesster Quote


Kodak Ultramax 400, SMC-A 28/2.8, Program Plus
Nesster, in the ensuing broohaha, I didn't want this shot to go unremarked. Really, really nice. I just shot my first roll of Ultramax (on your recommendation in the Urban Photography thread) and I'm really pleased with this film, too.

Not as nice as yours...

ZX-5n, FA35, Ultramax 400


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Another attempt at scanning. It turns out 6400 DPI gives 370 MB TIFF files, which is borderline for what my computer can manipulate in photoshop in a reasonable period of time. Back to experimenting...

Super Takumar 50mm f/1.4 on a KX with Kodak Gold 200.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Steinback Quote
Another attempt at scanning. It turns out 6400 DPI gives 370 MB TIFF files, which is borderline for what my computer can manipulate in photoshop in a reasonable period of time. Back to experimenting...

Super Takumar 50mm f/1.4 on a KX with Kodak Gold 200.
but as you can see, nothing blown out and smooth gredation on edges.

what software are you using?
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That's the plainest scan Epson's software (Epson Scan) allows on pro mode at 6400 Dpi and 48 bits. No unsharp mask, no dust reduction, no colour correction, etc.

I opened the file in photoshop 6 to crop and rotate slightly and did some minor colour correction using levels (the scanner seems to tend towards a slight blue hue, possibly from the back light) and a tiny increase in saturation. I saved a 3000 x 2000 version of that TIFF because I couldn't remember how to get a Jpeg out of photoshop and instead did my TIFF to JPEG conversion in Gimp, which seems kind of silly but worked.

Tomorrow I'll play around with a tiny bit a sharpening on the original file before making another downsized version and also try a lower resolution scan of the negative as a comparison (probably in a more appropriate thread).

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My first try w/ an M42 combo: SPII+S-M-C Takumar 50/1.4 on Fujifilm Superia 100. Don't know it's because of the film (might be expired) or the shop's processing/scanning (a Kodak Center), the colors look a bit weird to me:












Oh maybe it's because of the bad light condition (drizzling when taken these shots)
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Frank, excellent, welcome to the thread... I'm shooting the same exact kit as you right now, but I think I have some b&w film (Tri-X?) in the camera right now.

It's the film, Superia 100 especially does strange things. You can do some photoshop work (white balance, R-G-B curves/levels) to try to get something more realistic. I don't know how Fuji sells the Superia.
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could never remember what this combat art is called..

I *think* this is fuji-xtra 800..

On a super-takumar 50 F1.4

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I got caught! This is fuji 400x, the whole roll came out a little soft and odd on the colours, nothing like I get with Provia 100F. Ah well.

LX & SMC-M 50 1.7
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QuoteOriginally posted by CSoars Quote
This is fuji 400x, the whole roll came out a little soft and odd on the colours, nothing like I get with Provia 100F.
my experience with 400x has been insanely good. maybe a bad roll or funky processing?
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QuoteOriginally posted by k100d Quote
my experience with 400x has been insanely good. maybe a bad roll or funky processing?
i want pics from your yashica, chop chop!!!
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QuoteOriginally posted by Gooshin Quote
i want pics from your yashica, chop chop!!!
i have them all back. just don't have an MF scanner
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