:cool: Lets see those ''film'' shots

dsmithhfx · 02-19-2017, 05:15 AM

aurele · 02-19-2017, 12:56 PM

Originally posted by Pablo Villegas

The limited lenses are too expensive an de the 85mm F1.4 even more, I can't believe they're still that expensive in a rather professional dead system.

The simple offer and demand problem : there is no substitute for those lenses in the Pentax world.

deepbluish · 02-19-2017, 03:25 PM - **1 Like**

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Pablo Villegas · 02-19-2017, 05:01 PM

Originally posted by aurele

The simple offer and demand problem : there is no substitute for those lenses in the Pentax world.

I know, but I can't see why people buy them. I'm not gonna spend that kind of memory on something I use for playing and non essential personal work. I'd rather spend that on medium format lenses, you can get about 4 for what each of those 35mm lenses cost.

Well, now that I think about it, they're still expensive because they can be used in digital cameras as well. Is just that I would only use them for film.

jtkratzer · 02-19-2017, 07:48 PM

Originally posted by Pablo Villegas

I know, but I can't see why people buy them. I'm not gonna spend that kind of memory on something I use for playing and non essential personal work. I'd rather spend that on medium format lenses, you can get about 4 for what each of those 35mm lenses cost.

Well, now that I think about it, they're still expensive because they can be used in digital cameras as well. Is just that I would only use them for film.

At the end of the day, if you spend the money, it's still gone. And arguably, medium format film is (was, and only past tense because of the price plummets due to digital) for professionals. Many of the $500-$1,500 medium format kits out there were over $10,000 new. I have the 31 and 77 and they're fantastic lenses. Some of the best pictures I have of my children were exposed through those lenses. They work on manual and AF film and digital bodies. And now that Pentax has a full frame camera, try using those expensive DA* lenses on that body.

Pablo Villegas · 02-19-2017, 09:08 PM

Originally posted by jtkratzer

At the end of the day, if you spend the money, it's still gone. And arguably, medium format film is (was, and only past tense because of the price plummets due to digital) for professionals. Many of the $500-$1,500 medium format kits out there were over $10,000 new. I have the 31 and 77 and they're fantastic lenses. Some of the best pictures I have of my children were exposed through those lenses. They work on manual and AF film and digital bodies. And now that Pentax has a full frame camera, try using those expensive DA* lenses on that body.

I know those MF kits were very expensive back then, I couldn't afford them, now I can. And I can use those lenses on my 645D as well, that I could afford many years after release. And that's what make those lenses even more expensive, they haven't drop in price. But yeah, it must be because you can still use them on digital cameras, and they're AF.
I supposed they're pretty good lenses, but I just can't invest that kind of money on a format(35mm) that only use for snapshots, and not main personal or commercial work. I'm not knocking on the lenses or people that can afford them and buy them. Just perplexed they haven't drop in price that much, like much of the film gear. I bought a complete kit of RZ67 Pro II and a Mamiya 645 Pro TL, for the price of the 77mm each. I bought a Pentax 645D with 3 FA lenses(45, 75 and 200mm) for the price of both the 31 and 77mm limited lenses.

**Bonner04** · 02-19-2017, 09:24 PM - **2 Likes**

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dsmithhfx · 02-20-2017, 02:36 AM

jtkratzer · 02-20-2017, 12:15 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Pablo Villegas

I know those MF kits were very expensive back then, I couldn't afford them, now I can. And I can use those lenses on my 645D as well, that I could afford many years after release. And that's what make those lenses even more expensive, they haven't drop in price. But yeah, it must be because you can still use them on digital cameras, and they're AF.
I supposed they're pretty good lenses, but I just can't invest that kind of money on a format(35mm) that only use for snapshots, and not main personal or commercial work. I'm not knocking on the lenses or people that can afford them and buy them. Just perplexed they haven't drop in price that much, like much of the film gear. I bought a complete kit of RZ67 Pro II and a Mamiya 645 Pro TL, for the price of the 77mm each. I bought a Pentax 645D with 3 FA lenses(45, 75 and 200mm) for the price of both the 31 and 77mm limited lenses.

I can see how you'd have that perspective with medium format being your primary format. I can see that as I start to peel back the layers on medium format film. I don't see myself getting into MF digital, but I'm really just now resurrecting my film stuff.

**gofour3** · 02-20-2017, 05:24 PM - **4 Likes**

A shot from the last roll of my Kono Kolorit 125T (Expired Kodak Tungsten 125T movie stock re-spooled in Germany and rated at 100ISO. Film works best with no tungsten daylight 85B filter)

Pentax Super A & FA31/1.8:

Phil.

dsmithhfx · 02-21-2017, 03:38 AM - **1 Like**

**YeOldePentaxian** · 02-21-2017, 09:27 AM

Originally posted by gofour3

A shot from the last roll of my Kono Kolorit 125T

Is that a current image after your recent snow falls?

murrelet · 02-21-2017, 10:09 AM

Originally posted by gofour3

A shot from the last roll of my Kono Kolorit 125T (Expired Kodak Tungsten 125T movie stock re-spooled in Germany and rated at 100ISO. Film works best with no tungsten daylight 85B filter)

Pentax Super A & FA31/1.8:

Phil.

Are those jellybeans recent additions? It's been a few years since I spent much time in that part of Vancouver.

skierd · 02-21-2017, 12:31 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Pablo Villegas

I know those MF kits were very expensive back then, I couldn't afford them, now I can. And I can use those lenses on my 645D as well, that I could afford many years after release. And that's what make those lenses even more expensive, they haven't drop in price. But yeah, it must be because you can still use them on digital cameras, and they're AF.
I supposed they're pretty good lenses, but I just can't invest that kind of money on a format(35mm) that only use for snapshots, and not main personal or commercial work. I'm not knocking on the lenses or people that can afford them and buy them. Just perplexed they haven't drop in price that much, like much of the film gear. I bought a complete kit of RZ67 Pro II and a Mamiya 645 Pro TL, for the price of the 77mm each. I bought a Pentax 645D with 3 FA lenses(45, 75 and 200mm) for the price of both the 31 and 77mm limited lenses.

I'm right there with you. I'm looking at replacing my K-30 at some point this year, and am very much stuck between the K-1 and a 645D. I could probably do everything I want with the 15-30, 77, 100 Macro, and either the 70-200 with the 1.4x TC or the 150-450. But the 645D with the A 35, 75LS, 120 Macro, and 300mm with TC's would do the job too, and probably for less (yeah, new vs used, but the money spends the same). Medium format film appeals to me more than 35mm as well and 645 bodies are dirt cheap.

**gofour3** · 02-21-2017, 12:35 PM

Originally posted by YeOldePentaxian

Is that a current image after your recent snow falls?

Yep the shot was taken on Feb 11th, all the snow is gone now after a few days of heavy rain. (Back to normal for here)

Originally posted by murrelet

Are those jellybeans recent additions? It's been a few years since I spent much time in that part of Vancouver.

Yep an art project, probably about 3 years ago.

Thanks Phil.

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aurele Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Paris, France Photos: Albums Posts: 3,217	Originally posted by Pablo Villegas The limited lenses are too expensive an de the 85mm F1.4 even more, I can't believe they're still that expensive in a rather professional dead system. The simple offer and demand problem : there is no substitute for those lenses in the Pentax world.

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02-19-2017, 05:01 PM	#14749
Pablo Villegas Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 158	Originally posted by aurele The simple offer and demand problem : there is no substitute for those lenses in the Pentax world. I know, but I can't see why people buy them. I'm not gonna spend that kind of memory on something I use for playing and non essential personal work. I'd rather spend that on medium format lenses, you can get about 4 for what each of those 35mm lenses cost. Well, now that I think about it, they're still expensive because they can be used in digital cameras as well. Is just that I would only use them for film.

02-19-2017, 07:48 PM	#14750
jtkratzer Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Lancaster County, Pa Posts: 963	Originally posted by Pablo Villegas I know, but I can't see why people buy them. I'm not gonna spend that kind of memory on something I use for playing and non essential personal work. I'd rather spend that on medium format lenses, you can get about 4 for what each of those 35mm lenses cost. Well, now that I think about it, they're still expensive because they can be used in digital cameras as well. Is just that I would only use them for film. At the end of the day, if you spend the money, it's still gone. And arguably, medium format film is (was, and only past tense because of the price plummets due to digital) for professionals. Many of the $500-$1,500 medium format kits out there were over $10,000 new. I have the 31 and 77 and they're fantastic lenses. Some of the best pictures I have of my children were exposed through those lenses. They work on manual and AF film and digital bodies. And now that Pentax has a full frame camera, try using those expensive DA* lenses on that body.

02-19-2017, 09:08 PM	#14751
Pablo Villegas Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 158	Originally posted by jtkratzer At the end of the day, if you spend the money, it's still gone. And arguably, medium format film is (was, and only past tense because of the price plummets due to digital) for professionals. Many of the $500-$1,500 medium format kits out there were over $10,000 new. I have the 31 and 77 and they're fantastic lenses. Some of the best pictures I have of my children were exposed through those lenses. They work on manual and AF film and digital bodies. And now that Pentax has a full frame camera, try using those expensive DA* lenses on that body. I know those MF kits were very expensive back then, I couldn't afford them, now I can. And I can use those lenses on my 645D as well, that I could afford many years after release. And that's what make those lenses even more expensive, they haven't drop in price. But yeah, it must be because you can still use them on digital cameras, and they're AF. I supposed they're pretty good lenses, but I just can't invest that kind of money on a format(35mm) that only use for snapshots, and not main personal or commercial work. I'm not knocking on the lenses or people that can afford them and buy them. Just perplexed they haven't drop in price that much, like much of the film gear. I bought a complete kit of RZ67 Pro II and a Mamiya 645 Pro TL, for the price of the 77mm each. I bought a Pentax 645D with 3 FA lenses(45, 75 and 200mm) for the price of both the 31 and 77mm limited lenses.

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jtkratzer Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Lancaster County, Pa Posts: 963	Originally posted by Pablo Villegas I know those MF kits were very expensive back then, I couldn't afford them, now I can. And I can use those lenses on my 645D as well, that I could afford many years after release. And that's what make those lenses even more expensive, they haven't drop in price. But yeah, it must be because you can still use them on digital cameras, and they're AF. I supposed they're pretty good lenses, but I just can't invest that kind of money on a format(35mm) that only use for snapshots, and not main personal or commercial work. I'm not knocking on the lenses or people that can afford them and buy them. Just perplexed they haven't drop in price that much, like much of the film gear. I bought a complete kit of RZ67 Pro II and a Mamiya 645 Pro TL, for the price of the 77mm each. I bought a Pentax 645D with 3 FA lenses(45, 75 and 200mm) for the price of both the 31 and 77mm limited lenses. I can see how you'd have that perspective with medium format being your primary format. I can see that as I start to peel back the layers on medium format film. I don't see myself getting into MF digital, but I'm really just now resurrecting my film stuff.

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YeOldePentaxian Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Calgary Photos: Albums Posts: 645	Originally posted by gofour3 A shot from the last roll of my Kono Kolorit 125T Is that a current image after your recent snow falls?

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murrelet Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Portland, OR, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 506	Originally posted by gofour3 A shot from the last roll of my Kono Kolorit 125T (Expired Kodak Tungsten 125T movie stock re-spooled in Germany and rated at 100ISO. Film works best with no tungsten daylight 85B filter) Pentax Super A & FA31/1.8: Phil. Are those jellybeans recent additions? It's been a few years since I spent much time in that part of Vancouver.

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skierd Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Fairbanks, AK Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,472	Originally posted by Pablo Villegas I know those MF kits were very expensive back then, I couldn't afford them, now I can. And I can use those lenses on my 645D as well, that I could afford many years after release. And that's what make those lenses even more expensive, they haven't drop in price. But yeah, it must be because you can still use them on digital cameras, and they're AF. I supposed they're pretty good lenses, but I just can't invest that kind of money on a format(35mm) that only use for snapshots, and not main personal or commercial work. I'm not knocking on the lenses or people that can afford them and buy them. Just perplexed they haven't drop in price that much, like much of the film gear. I bought a complete kit of RZ67 Pro II and a Mamiya 645 Pro TL, for the price of the 77mm each. I bought a Pentax 645D with 3 FA lenses(45, 75 and 200mm) for the price of both the 31 and 77mm limited lenses. I'm right there with you. I'm looking at replacing my K-30 at some point this year, and am very much stuck between the K-1 and a 645D. I could probably do everything I want with the 15-30, 77, 100 Macro, and either the 70-200 with the 1.4x TC or the 150-450. But the 645D with the A 35, 75LS, 120 Macro, and 300mm with TC's would do the job too, and probably for less (yeah, new vs used, but the money spends the same). Medium format film appeals to me more than 35mm as well and 645 bodies are dirt cheap.

02-21-2017, 12:35 PM	#14760
gofour3 Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 8,090	Originally posted by YeOldePentaxian Is that a current image after your recent snow falls? Yep the shot was taken on Feb 11th, all the snow is gone now after a few days of heavy rain. (Back to normal for here) Originally posted by murrelet Are those jellybeans recent additions? It's been a few years since I spent much time in that part of Vancouver. Yep an art project, probably about 3 years ago. Thanks Phil.