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Nesster · 07-03-2010, 03:58 AM

Ferrania 100, ZX-L, DA 16-45

I've finally figured out what's inconsistent about the ZX-L (I'm slow): it tends to over expose, or bias to shadows. Accordingly I get more gritty or blown out color than with other Pentax film cameras. For this 'print' I had to curve down the main scene quite a bit, and then go open the shadow back up, and desaturate the Ferrania a click or so. By the looks of it the DA 16-45 was at around 20mm or so.

Bruiser · 07-03-2010, 07:14 AM

Great picture, but what's the black corner on the upper left?

Nesster · 07-03-2010, 08:56 AM

Originally posted by Bruiser

Great picture, but what's the black corner on the upper left?

Thanks. The black corner is where the 16-45 starts to vignette when wider than about 21mm

nedski · 07-03-2010, 09:14 AM

Originally posted by Nesster

I've finally figured out what's inconsistent about the ZX-L (I'm slow): it tends to over expose, or bias to shadows.

I've found this to be true with the ZX-M. I mostly shoot on manual with a handheld meter. The in-viewfinder meter fairly consistently tells me I'm underexposing. The few times I've thrown it on Av or P I've ended up with some dense negatives.

zelovoc · 07-03-2010, 09:40 AM

just tried ilford pan 400 with my k1000. more than expected.

Votesh · 07-03-2010, 01:09 PM

I sure did. I sold my FA* 85mm because it was just too large for my kit, which I'm trying to downsize. I got the Leica R 90/2 to replace it. I am slightly disappointed with it on digital, but so far on film it might replace the 31mm Ltd as my favorite lens. It compares favorably to the FA* 85mm on film too, in my opinion.

Pentax 50s really are great. if nothing else a Leica would offer something different, albeit at a much higher price thana Pentax 50/2.

Originally posted by frank

So you got a Leica? That's nice. I'm thinking of getting a Leica too, probably start from a 50/2 ... But our Pentax 50s are already very good ...

frank · 07-04-2010, 03:37 AM

Originally posted by Votesh

I sure did. I sold my FA* 85mm because it was just too large for my kit, which I'm trying to downsize. I got the Leica R 90/2 to replace it. I am slightly disappointed with it on digital, but so far on film it might replace the 31mm Ltd as my favorite lens. It compares favorably to the FA* 85mm on film too, in my opinion.

Pentax 50s really are great. if nothing else a Leica would offer something different, albeit at a much higher price thana Pentax 50/2.

Sound's pretty cool. I'm not a Leica fan, as a matter of fact, I don't like Leica stuff, not just because their prices, but their looks and the handling. I much prefer Pentax ones. I guess it's because I'm used to and addict to Pentax

Just finished another roll of Reala with LX and M50/1.4. Can't see the results until Tuesday night ...

Nesster · 07-04-2010, 09:01 AM

zelovoc - excellent results, fun photos!

Foma 400 / excel/Xtol / ES-II / SMC Takumar 28/3.5 / Y2 yellow filter / square crop

jgredline · 07-04-2010, 10:36 AM

Originally posted by frank

So you got a Leica? That's nice. I'm thinking of getting a Leica too, probably start from a 50/2 ... But our Pentax 50s are already very good ...

I too have been pondering getting one, but do not know why.

jgredline · 07-04-2010, 11:25 AM

ME super with more Ilford XP-2

Hanging out.

Out of my way.

Playing the lotto.

Cheap parking.

stevebrot · 07-04-2010, 11:39 AM

Originally posted by jgredline

I too have been pondering getting one, but do not know why.

A rangefinder or a Leica SLR or just a Leica R lens? If a rangefinder, I would get a Voigtlander over a Leica unless you are anxious to spend a lot of money. If you want to go real cheap, get a Zorki or a Fed

Steve

Swift1 · 07-04-2010, 02:28 PM

I finally got around to developing a roll of Arista Premium I shot about a month ago.

Here are a few, all shot with my K1000SE and M50/1.7 or M100/2.8.

Votesh · 07-04-2010, 05:58 PM

I like Pentax lenses too, but I was leaving the FA* 85 at home too often because of its size, and pretty much out of nowhere, I decided I would sell it and try out the Leica. I'm glad now that I did. The Leica is pretty heavy, but also compact. The build and handling are great, as good as I've ever used, and it has a built-in hood that keeps it compact. It is essentially just what I was looking for in a short tele, wide aperture lens.

Originally posted by frank

Sound's pretty cool. I'm not a Leica fan, as a matter of fact, I don't like Leica stuff, not just because their prices, but their looks and the handling. I much prefer Pentax ones. I guess it's because I'm used to and addict to Pentax

Just finished another roll of Reala with LX and M50/1.4. Can't see the results until Tuesday night ...

Stratman · 07-05-2010, 01:16 PM

4th of July bar b q... Asahi Pentax S1a, ST 55 1.8, 35 3.5, 28 3.5, and S-M-C 200 F4, Fuji color 200

35 3.5

200 F4

55 1.8

28 3.5

55 1.8

goddo31 · 07-05-2010, 06:10 PM

Nice crisp photos from that S1a there Steve. Looks like you could feed the whole family on those two steaks too!

07-03-2010, 09:40 AM	#3440
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07-03-2010, 03:58 AM	#3436
Nesster Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NJ USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 13,072	Ferrania 100, ZX-L, DA 16-45 I've finally figured out what's inconsistent about the ZX-L (I'm slow): it tends to over expose, or bias to shadows. Accordingly I get more gritty or blown out color than with other Pentax film cameras. For this 'print' I had to curve down the main scene quite a bit, and then go open the shadow back up, and desaturate the Ferrania a click or so. By the looks of it the DA 16-45 was at around 20mm or so.

07-03-2010, 07:14 AM	#3437
Bruiser New Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Buenos Aires Posts: 22	Great picture, but what's the black corner on the upper left?

07-03-2010, 08:56 AM	#3438
Nesster Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NJ USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 13,072	Originally posted by Bruiser Great picture, but what's the black corner on the upper left? Thanks. The black corner is where the 16-45 starts to vignette when wider than about 21mm

07-03-2010, 09:14 AM	#3439
nedski Junior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 33	Originally posted by Nesster I've finally figured out what's inconsistent about the ZX-L (I'm slow): it tends to over expose, or bias to shadows. I've found this to be true with the ZX-M. I mostly shoot on manual with a handheld meter. The in-viewfinder meter fairly consistently tells me I'm underexposing. The few times I've thrown it on Av or P I've ended up with some dense negatives.

07-03-2010, 01:09 PM	#3441
Votesh Inactive Account Join Date: Apr 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 817	I sure did. I sold my FA* 85mm because it was just too large for my kit, which I'm trying to downsize. I got the Leica R 90/2 to replace it. I am slightly disappointed with it on digital, but so far on film it might replace the 31mm Ltd as my favorite lens. It compares favorably to the FA* 85mm on film too, in my opinion. Pentax 50s really are great. if nothing else a Leica would offer something different, albeit at a much higher price thana Pentax 50/2. Originally posted by frank So you got a Leica? That's nice. I'm thinking of getting a Leica too, probably start from a 50/2 ... But our Pentax 50s are already very good ...

07-04-2010, 03:37 AM	#3442
frank Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Singapore Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,202	Originally posted by Votesh I sure did. I sold my FA* 85mm because it was just too large for my kit, which I'm trying to downsize. I got the Leica R 90/2 to replace it. I am slightly disappointed with it on digital, but so far on film it might replace the 31mm Ltd as my favorite lens. It compares favorably to the FA* 85mm on film too, in my opinion. Pentax 50s really are great. if nothing else a Leica would offer something different, albeit at a much higher price thana Pentax 50/2. Sound's pretty cool. I'm not a Leica fan, as a matter of fact, I don't like Leica stuff, not just because their prices, but their looks and the handling. I much prefer Pentax ones. I guess it's because I'm used to and addict to Pentax Just finished another roll of Reala with LX and M50/1.4. Can't see the results until Tuesday night ...

07-04-2010, 09:01 AM	#3443
Nesster Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NJ USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 13,072	zelovoc - excellent results, fun photos! Foma 400 / excel/Xtol / ES-II / SMC Takumar 28/3.5 / Y2 yellow filter / square crop

07-04-2010, 10:36 AM	#3444
jgredline Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: LosAngeles, Ca. Photos: Albums Posts: 10,628 Original Poster	Originally posted by frank So you got a Leica? That's nice. I'm thinking of getting a Leica too, probably start from a 50/2 ... But our Pentax 50s are already very good ... I too have been pondering getting one, but do not know why.

07-04-2010, 11:25 AM	#3445
jgredline Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: LosAngeles, Ca. Photos: Albums Posts: 10,628 Original Poster	ME super with more Ilford XP-2 Hanging out. Out of my way. Playing the lotto. Cheap parking.

07-04-2010, 11:39 AM	#3446
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by jgredline I too have been pondering getting one, but do not know why. A rangefinder or a Leica SLR or just a Leica R lens? If a rangefinder, I would get a Voigtlander over a Leica unless you are anxious to spend a lot of money. If you want to go real cheap, get a Zorki or a Fed Steve

07-04-2010, 02:28 PM	#3447
Swift1 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Oregon Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,079	I finally got around to developing a roll of Arista Premium I shot about a month ago. Here are a few, all shot with my K1000SE and M50/1.7 or M100/2.8.

07-04-2010, 05:58 PM	#3448
Votesh Inactive Account Join Date: Apr 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 817	I like Pentax lenses too, but I was leaving the FA* 85 at home too often because of its size, and pretty much out of nowhere, I decided I would sell it and try out the Leica. I'm glad now that I did. The Leica is pretty heavy, but also compact. The build and handling are great, as good as I've ever used, and it has a built-in hood that keeps it compact. It is essentially just what I was looking for in a short tele, wide aperture lens. Originally posted by frank Sound's pretty cool. I'm not a Leica fan, as a matter of fact, I don't like Leica stuff, not just because their prices, but their looks and the handling. I much prefer Pentax ones. I guess it's because I'm used to and addict to Pentax Just finished another roll of Reala with LX and M50/1.4. Can't see the results until Tuesday night ...

07-05-2010, 01:16 PM	#3449
Stratman Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: St Louis, Missouri U S A Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,464	4th of July bar b q... Asahi Pentax S1a, ST 55 1.8, 35 3.5, 28 3.5, and S-M-C 200 F4, Fuji color 200 35 3.5 200 F4 55 1.8 28 3.5 55 1.8

07-05-2010, 06:10 PM	#3450
goddo31 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,576	Nice crisp photos from that S1a there Steve. Looks like you could feed the whole family on those two steaks too!

:cool: Lets see those ''film'' shots

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