:cool: Lets see those ''film'' shots

g026r · 05-08-2018, 07:25 PM

Originally posted by Jellygeist

CineStill is an odd duck. I've taken quite a few good shots with it, but it's temperamental and is very sensitive to light leaks. If not exposed in perfect conditions it gets pretty sour, which is actually nice for adding atmosphere but doesn't make things look very pretty. I'm kind of eager to try it in 120 format.

I tried their alpha release of 800T. It was interesting, but marred by some production defects. (Hence the alpha release.)

I've got another non-alpha 120 roll that I should try out, but I haven't figured out what to use it for.

Originally posted by timw4mail

I've also had strange results with Cinestill 800.

I've got an album with similar red splotches: Cinestill 800T Scans

I'd guess light leaks near the door hinge? I had something similar on the first roll I ever shot. I really like the colours you got out of your scans though. Mine always seem to come off an ugly greenish colour unless I tweak them after.

aaacb · 05-08-2018, 08:33 PM - **4 Likes**

Two shots from the last rolls that I got processed. Scanned at home.

Ektar (program plus, m 135/3.5)

Velvia 50 (zx-l, da 35/2.4)

Jellygeist · 05-08-2018, 08:44 PM - **4 Likes**

Originally posted by g026r

I tried their alpha release of 800T. It was interesting, but marred by some production defects. (Hence the alpha release.)

I've got another non-alpha 120 roll that I should try out, but I haven't figured out what to use it for.

I'd guess light leaks near the door hinge? I had something similar on the first roll I ever shot. I really like the colours you got out of your scans though. Mine always seem to come off an ugly greenish colour unless I tweak them after.

This one turned out okay, colours-wise

dsmithhfx · 05-09-2018, 02:06 AM - **1 Like**

jtkratzer · 05-09-2018, 04:46 AM

Originally posted by Jellygeist

This one turned out okay, colours-wise

Not a typical Cinestill 800T subject for sure. Think it's a processing issue? It's it processed in a different cocktail than C-41? <- That's more for the post about the unacceptable/undesirable results. I'd really like to try Cinestill when I go to Europe next year and visit numerous cities. I think I've finally decided to just bring two or three small 35mm bodies and a few lenses rather than try to make the trip with a 6x7 or 645n. Still considering a 6x4.5 P&S like the Fujis.

---------- Post added 05-09-18 at 07:48 AM ----------

Originally posted by g026r

I took two rolls of Cinestill 800T with me on a recent trip. Ignoring that I've never had colour results as good as sample images — likely a result of not doing my own scans — the results were still disappointing: one roll was almost completely ruined by static visible all across the roll, and the other had about half the frames covered in red spotting and blotches. These are two of the better frames from the second roll, but even in the first image the defect is painfully obvious:

Spotmatic II.
Super-Takumar 50mm f1.4 (Image 1) / Adaptall-2 28mm f2.5 (Image 2.)
Cinestill 800T.

Any idea what's behind the booth that might be causing that? Is there something back there? High rise with some dimly lit windows or reflected light from another source? Or it is actually some issue on the film?

timw4mail · 05-09-2018, 05:49 AM

Originally posted by g026r

I'd guess light leaks near the door hinge? I had something similar on the first roll I ever shot. I really like the colours you got out of your scans though. Mine always seem to come off an ugly greenish colour unless I tweak them after.

If I remember correctly, I just used whatever preset for Silverfast that I thought looked best. Not that I remember which film preset I used...

Originally posted by aaacb

Two shots from the last rolls that I got processed. Scanned at home.

Ektar (program plus, m 135/3.5)

Velvia 50 (zx-l, da 35/2.4)

How much playing did you do with the colors of the Ektar? Or is that about what it looked like when you scanned it? I ask because I didn't find Ektar very impressive until I scanned it with Epsonscan, which can really pop the colors. Silverfast seems to have blah colors for Ektar.

graeme83 · 05-09-2018, 06:03 AM

The red halos around the lights are because cinestill remove the anti halation / remjet layer to enable the film to go through standard c41 minilabs. It's an inbuilt problem of the film.

Bengan · 05-09-2018, 07:22 AM

Originally posted by Swift1

Probably my favorite photo I've ever taken was with Fujicolor 200 in a Pentax KM

Gorgeous shot, so full of energy and great composition. Can understand why it's your favorite.

**gofour3** · 05-09-2018, 07:23 AM

I've never tried the 800T version of CineStill, just the daylight 50 ISO. I have not had any issues with it, other that it works best in very sunny weather.

Phil.

g026r · 05-09-2018, 07:59 AM

Originally posted by jtkratzer

Any idea what's behind the booth that might be causing that? Is there something back there? High rise with some dimly lit windows or reflected light from another source? Or it is actually some issue on the film?

I'd have to dig out the negatives, but from what I recall of the location there should be no lights behind it at that level. There aren't a lot of particularly tall buildings in the area.

Originally posted by graeme83

The red halos around the lights are because cinestill remove the anti halation / remjet layer to enable the film to go through standard c41 minilabs. It's an inbuilt problem of the film.

Yeah, that part I was expecting.

---------- Post added 2018-05-09 at 10:59 ----------

Originally posted by gofour3

I've never tried the 800T version of CineStill, just the daylight 50 ISO. I have not had any issues with it, other that it works best in very sunny weather.

I've only tried the 50D once. I didn't have any problems with it, from what I can recall.

Swift1 · 05-09-2018, 10:17 AM - **4 Likes**

Canon 7 Rangefinder
Jupiter-12 35/2.8
Expired Fuji Superia 400
Epson V750-M Pro

graeme83 · 05-09-2018, 10:48 AM

Originally posted by g026r

Yeah, that part I was expecting.

Ahh, I see what you mean now, I thought you meant the lights. Just a thought, did these films go through an X-ray scanner? Possible culprit.

g026r · 05-09-2018, 11:17 AM

Originally posted by graeme83

Ahh, I see what you mean now, I thought you meant the lights. Just a thought, did these films go through an X-ray scanner? Possible culprit.

They were in a lead-lined X-ray bag, but they did indeed.

aaacb · 05-09-2018, 04:45 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by timw4mail

How much playing did you do with the colors of the Ektar?

I scanned with Epson's program for Windows, I have a v370. I only made minimal adjustments to white balance and to saturation. I may try to scan again and get a warmer color.

jtkratzer · 05-09-2018, 05:56 PM

Originally posted by Swift1

Probably my favorite photo I've ever taken was with Fujicolor 200 in a Pentax KM

Lovely photo. It's a nice camera, pristine condition and serviced by Eric. Everything you need as a walk around camera to learn. Don't really need a Judas window or MLU...if she feels like that's something she wants in the future, I have a KX and MX.

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05-08-2018, 07:25 PM	#16876
g026r Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,074	Originally posted by Jellygeist CineStill is an odd duck. I've taken quite a few good shots with it, but it's temperamental and is very sensitive to light leaks. If not exposed in perfect conditions it gets pretty sour, which is actually nice for adding atmosphere but doesn't make things look very pretty. I'm kind of eager to try it in 120 format. I tried their alpha release of 800T. It was interesting, but marred by some production defects. (Hence the alpha release.) I've got another non-alpha 120 roll that I should try out, but I haven't figured out what to use it for. Originally posted by timw4mail I've also had strange results with Cinestill 800. I've got an album with similar red splotches: Cinestill 800T Scans I'd guess light leaks near the door hinge? I had something similar on the first roll I ever shot. I really like the colours you got out of your scans though. Mine always seem to come off an ugly greenish colour unless I tweak them after.

05-08-2018, 08:33 PM - 4 Likes	#16877
aaacb Pentaxian Join Date: May 2016 Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,724	Two shots from the last rolls that I got processed. Scanned at home. Ektar (program plus, m 135/3.5) Velvia 50 (zx-l, da 35/2.4)

05-08-2018, 08:44 PM - 4 Likes	#16878
Jellygeist Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Brandon, MB Photos: Albums Posts: 334	Originally posted by g026r I tried their alpha release of 800T. It was interesting, but marred by some production defects. (Hence the alpha release.) I've got another non-alpha 120 roll that I should try out, but I haven't figured out what to use it for. I'd guess light leaks near the door hinge? I had something similar on the first roll I ever shot. I really like the colours you got out of your scans though. Mine always seem to come off an ugly greenish colour unless I tweak them after. This one turned out okay, colours-wise

05-09-2018, 02:06 AM - 1 Like	#16879
dsmithhfx Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Toronto Posts: 5,146

05-09-2018, 04:46 AM	#16880
jtkratzer Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Lancaster County, Pa Posts: 963	Originally posted by Jellygeist This one turned out okay, colours-wise Not a typical Cinestill 800T subject for sure. Think it's a processing issue? It's it processed in a different cocktail than C-41? <- That's more for the post about the unacceptable/undesirable results. I'd really like to try Cinestill when I go to Europe next year and visit numerous cities. I think I've finally decided to just bring two or three small 35mm bodies and a few lenses rather than try to make the trip with a 6x7 or 645n. Still considering a 6x4.5 P&S like the Fujis. ---------- Post added 05-09-18 at 07:48 AM ---------- Originally posted by g026r I took two rolls of Cinestill 800T with me on a recent trip. Ignoring that I've never had colour results as good as sample images — likely a result of not doing my own scans — the results were still disappointing: one roll was almost completely ruined by static visible all across the roll, and the other had about half the frames covered in red spotting and blotches. These are two of the better frames from the second roll, but even in the first image the defect is painfully obvious: Spotmatic II. Super-Takumar 50mm f1.4 (Image 1) / Adaptall-2 28mm f2.5 (Image 2.) Cinestill 800T. Any idea what's behind the booth that might be causing that? Is there something back there? High rise with some dimly lit windows or reflected light from another source? Or it is actually some issue on the film?

05-09-2018, 05:49 AM	#16881
timw4mail Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Driving a Mirage Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,670	Originally posted by g026r I'd guess light leaks near the door hinge? I had something similar on the first roll I ever shot. I really like the colours you got out of your scans though. Mine always seem to come off an ugly greenish colour unless I tweak them after. If I remember correctly, I just used whatever preset for Silverfast that I thought looked best. Not that I remember which film preset I used... Originally posted by aaacb Two shots from the last rolls that I got processed. Scanned at home. Ektar (program plus, m 135/3.5) Velvia 50 (zx-l, da 35/2.4) How much playing did you do with the colors of the Ektar? Or is that about what it looked like when you scanned it? I ask because I didn't find Ektar very impressive until I scanned it with Epsonscan, which can really pop the colors. Silverfast seems to have blah colors for Ektar.

05-09-2018, 06:03 AM	#16882
graeme83 Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Cheshire Posts: 737	The red halos around the lights are because cinestill remove the anti halation / remjet layer to enable the film to go through standard c41 minilabs. It's an inbuilt problem of the film.

05-09-2018, 07:22 AM	#16883
Bengan Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Stockholm Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,756	Originally posted by Swift1 Probably my favorite photo I've ever taken was with Fujicolor 200 in a Pentax KM Gorgeous shot, so full of energy and great composition. Can understand why it's your favorite.

05-09-2018, 07:23 AM	#16884
gofour3 Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 8,090	I've never tried the 800T version of CineStill, just the daylight 50 ISO. I have not had any issues with it, other that it works best in very sunny weather. Phil.

05-09-2018, 07:59 AM	#16885
g026r Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,074	Originally posted by jtkratzer Any idea what's behind the booth that might be causing that? Is there something back there? High rise with some dimly lit windows or reflected light from another source? Or it is actually some issue on the film? I'd have to dig out the negatives, but from what I recall of the location there should be no lights behind it at that level. There aren't a lot of particularly tall buildings in the area. Originally posted by graeme83 The red halos around the lights are because cinestill remove the anti halation / remjet layer to enable the film to go through standard c41 minilabs. It's an inbuilt problem of the film. Yeah, that part I was expecting. ---------- Post added 2018-05-09 at 10:59 ---------- Originally posted by gofour3 I've never tried the 800T version of CineStill, just the daylight 50 ISO. I have not had any issues with it, other that it works best in very sunny weather. I've only tried the 50D once. I didn't have any problems with it, from what I can recall.

05-09-2018, 10:17 AM - 4 Likes	#16886
Swift1 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Oregon Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,079	Canon 7 Rangefinder Jupiter-12 35/2.8 Expired Fuji Superia 400 Epson V750-M Pro

05-09-2018, 10:48 AM	#16887
graeme83 Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Cheshire Posts: 737	Originally posted by g026r Yeah, that part I was expecting. Ahh, I see what you mean now, I thought you meant the lights. Just a thought, did these films go through an X-ray scanner? Possible culprit.

05-09-2018, 11:17 AM	#16888
g026r Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,074	Originally posted by graeme83 Ahh, I see what you mean now, I thought you meant the lights. Just a thought, did these films go through an X-ray scanner? Possible culprit. They were in a lead-lined X-ray bag, but they did indeed.

05-09-2018, 04:45 PM - 1 Like	#16889
aaacb Pentaxian Join Date: May 2016 Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,724	Originally posted by timw4mail How much playing did you do with the colors of the Ektar? I scanned with Epson's program for Windows, I have a v370. I only made minimal adjustments to white balance and to saturation. I may try to scan again and get a warmer color.

05-09-2018, 05:56 PM	#16890
jtkratzer Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Lancaster County, Pa Posts: 963	Originally posted by Swift1 Probably my favorite photo I've ever taken was with Fujicolor 200 in a Pentax KM Lovely photo. It's a nice camera, pristine condition and serviced by Eric. Everything you need as a walk around camera to learn. Don't really need a Judas window or MLU...if she feels like that's something she wants in the future, I have a KX and MX.