:cool: Lets see those ''film'' shots

**gofour3** · 07-20-2019, 09:17 AM

Originally posted by g026r

Despite Rollei's statements that Nightbird is ISO 640-800 and suitable for low light situations, the last few times I had tried it suggested that that speed rating is massively optimistic. I was definitely metering this at 400 or possibly even 200 and shooting only on extremely sunny days.

Have you tried "Redbird", your results look similar? I also had issues getting any decent shots with that film as well.

Phil.

g026r · 07-20-2019, 10:46 AM

Originally posted by gofour3

Have you tried "Redbird", your results look similar? I also had issues getting any decent shots with that film as well.

I haven't. Was that the one they rated at 50-200?

I've seen some nice shots, but mine always were either really high-contrast red & black with not a lot of tonal variation, or really low contrast with not a lot of detail. (And also without a lot of tonal variation.)

**gofour3** · 07-20-2019, 01:38 PM - **6 Likes**

Originally posted by g026r

I haven't. Was that the one they rated at 50-200?

I've seen some nice shots, but mine always were either really high-contrast red & black with not a lot of tonal variation, or really low contrast with not a lot of detail. (And also without a lot of tonal variation.)

Redbird was rated at 400 ISO, but you could control the effect by exposure.(More to the yellow side than orange) I shot a few rolls back in 2011 and this is an example, not sure if I changed the exposure or not. Never really had any urge to try the film again.

Phil.

dsmithhfx · 07-20-2019, 02:26 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by gofour3

Redbird was rated at 400 ISO, but you could control the effect by exposure.(More to the yellow side than orange) I shot a few rolls back in 2011 and this is an example, not sure if I changed the exposure or not. Never really had any urge to try the film again.

Phil.

It appears to be an effect (like so many others) that could be rather easily replicated in photoshop.

g026r · 07-20-2019, 03:29 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by gofour3

Redbird was rated at 400 ISO, but you could control the effect by exposure.(More to the yellow side than orange) I shot a few rolls back in 2011 and this is an example, not sure if I changed the exposure or not. Never really had any urge to try the film again.

Ah. I suspect that changing the effect is the reason for the rating being a range on Nightbird. On the other hand, this was one of the only shots that could even be discerned as more than an underexposed, grainy blob the one time I actually shot it at 800.

Checking Flickr, it looks like I've tried this 3 times over as many years, with only about 1 "successful" result per roll. Thankfully I paid for just one of those rolls, so the only significant money wasted was on development.

noctilux · 07-20-2019, 09:55 PM - **3 Likes**

Rolleiflex 3.5A, Fuji Pro 160NS (I think, possibly Pro 400H)

nickthetasmaniac · 07-21-2019, 12:21 AM - **13 Likes**

Munro Hut | Tasman National Park

Hasselblad SWC/M (38mm Biogon) and Portra400

1 minute exposure

dsmithhfx · 07-21-2019, 03:49 AM

Ricoh 35s Tmax 400

dsmithhfx · 07-22-2019, 02:16 AM - **5 Likes**

Ricoh 35s Tmax 400

**richard0170** · 07-22-2019, 11:01 AM - **5 Likes**

Decided to give Ektar a whirl - lots to play with now. But initial results very promising. So a few to start. Contax S2, Yashica 55mm f2.8 Macro and Zeiss Sonnar 85mm f2.8

stevebrot · 07-22-2019, 11:49 AM - **6 Likes**

Originally posted by richard0170

Decided to give Ektar a whirl - lots to play with now. But initial results very promising. So a few to start. Contax S2, Yashica 55mm f2.8 Macro and Zeiss Sonnar 85mm f2.8

With the exception of the image at top (duh), saturation is way over the top either on the scans or in PP. Ektar is capable of handling intense color, but with proper exposure, processing, and scanning should be much less intense, particularly in the "vivid rust" rendering of tan and brown for the dirt, twigs, dry grass/leaves and stream-side rocks.

I usually expect something like...

Steve

nickthetasmaniac · 07-22-2019, 06:06 PM - **7 Likes**

Hurricane Heath | Tasman National Park

Hasselblad SWC/M (38mm Biogon) and Portra400

dsmithhfx · 07-23-2019, 01:53 AM - **3 Likes**

tuco · 07-23-2019, 08:18 AM - **6 Likes**

GX617, Fuji 400H, Jobo C-41 Press Kit

tuco · 07-23-2019, 08:40 AM - **1 Like**

I can hear an announcer in a bored, monotone voice, "... and for the final act, ladies and gentlemen, the Shetland pony will attempt a defying and daring walk over a log on plywood"

07-20-2019, 03:29 PM - 1 Like	#19265
g026r Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,074	Originally posted by gofour3 Redbird was rated at 400 ISO, but you could control the effect by exposure.(More to the yellow side than orange) I shot a few rolls back in 2011 and this is an example, not sure if I changed the exposure or not. Never really had any urge to try the film again. Ah. I suspect that changing the effect is the reason for the rating being a range on Nightbird. On the other hand, this was one of the only shots that could even be discerned as more than an underexposed, grainy blob the one time I actually shot it at 800. Checking Flickr, it looks like I've tried this 3 times over as many years, with only about 1 "successful" result per roll. Thankfully I paid for just one of those rolls, so the only significant money wasted was on development. Last edited by g026r; 07-20-2019 at 10:00 PM.

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07-20-2019, 09:17 AM	#19261
gofour3 Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 8,091	Originally posted by g026r Despite Rollei's statements that Nightbird is ISO 640-800 and suitable for low light situations, the last few times I had tried it suggested that that speed rating is massively optimistic. I was definitely metering this at 400 or possibly even 200 and shooting only on extremely sunny days. Have you tried "Redbird", your results look similar? I also had issues getting any decent shots with that film as well. Phil.

07-20-2019, 10:46 AM	#19262
g026r Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,074	Originally posted by gofour3 Have you tried "Redbird", your results look similar? I also had issues getting any decent shots with that film as well. I haven't. Was that the one they rated at 50-200? I've seen some nice shots, but mine always were either really high-contrast red & black with not a lot of tonal variation, or really low contrast with not a lot of detail. (And also without a lot of tonal variation.)

07-20-2019, 01:38 PM - 6 Likes	#19263
gofour3 Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 8,091	Originally posted by g026r I haven't. Was that the one they rated at 50-200? I've seen some nice shots, but mine always were either really high-contrast red & black with not a lot of tonal variation, or really low contrast with not a lot of detail. (And also without a lot of tonal variation.) Redbird was rated at 400 ISO, but you could control the effect by exposure.(More to the yellow side than orange) I shot a few rolls back in 2011 and this is an example, not sure if I changed the exposure or not. Never really had any urge to try the film again. Phil.

07-20-2019, 02:26 PM - 1 Like	#19264
dsmithhfx Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Toronto Posts: 5,146	Originally posted by gofour3 Redbird was rated at 400 ISO, but you could control the effect by exposure.(More to the yellow side than orange) I shot a few rolls back in 2011 and this is an example, not sure if I changed the exposure or not. Never really had any urge to try the film again. Phil. It appears to be an effect (like so many others) that could be rather easily replicated in photoshop.

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stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by richard0170 Decided to give Ektar a whirl - lots to play with now. But initial results very promising. So a few to start. Contax S2, Yashica 55mm f2.8 Macro and Zeiss Sonnar 85mm f2.8 With the exception of the image at top (duh), saturation is way over the top either on the scans or in PP. Ektar is capable of handling intense color, but with proper exposure, processing, and scanning should be much less intense, particularly in the "vivid rust" rendering of tan and brown for the dirt, twigs, dry grass/leaves and stream-side rocks. I usually expect something like... Steve

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07-23-2019, 08:40 AM - 1 Like	#19275
tuco Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pugetopolis Posts: 11,026	I can hear an announcer in a bored, monotone voice, "... and for the final act, ladies and gentlemen, the Shetland pony will attempt a defying and daring walk over a log on plywood"