:cool: Lets see those ''film'' shots

jgredline · 06-12-2009, 09:07 PM

Originally posted by Jake67

Thanks. Here's one from the same day. From what I remember, I had just enough light to shoot handheld at 2.8 if I pushed the film one stop. (800iso) The effect of shooting people with that lens wide open is pretty dramatic. Sometimes it works.

Wow,I have a 645 that I have been working on getting through my first roll. I am inclined to hurry it up now.

jgredline · 06-12-2009, 09:18 PM

ME-F. Tokina 17mm F/3.5@F8, Kodal Gold 100
This is the Marina Del Rey Lagoon...I waited and waited until I felt the light was just right as I focused on the water.

Agnostic · 06-13-2009, 12:09 AM

Originally posted by Jake67

Thanks. Here's one from the same day. From what I remember, I had just enough light to shoot handheld at 2.8 if I pushed the film one stop. (800iso) The effect of shooting people with that lens wide open is pretty dramatic. Sometimes it works.

Great, that photo really explodes off the page!

Originally posted by jgredline

ME-F. Tokina 17mm F/3.5@F8, Kodal Gold 100
This is the Marina Del Rey Lagoon...I waited and waited until I felt the light was just right as I focused on the water.

Nice ones!

**ChrisPlatt** · 06-13-2009, 09:36 AM

Jonathan Richman lived in a less-upscale Venice Beach for a time in the 1970's:

Rooming House on Venice Beach by Jonathan Richman (free mp3 on last.fm)

It was a rooming house on Venice Beach
Nice and cheap
A radiator and a sagging bed
On which to sleep
I didn't lock it
Who would want my cheap guitar
And that T-shirt in those paper bags
Naw, naw

The ancient world was in my reach
From my rooming house on Venice Beach

It was rough rough rough
With ancient rustic hippie stuff
It was cheap cheap cheap
Nowadays I hear that rents are steep
It was eerie, eerie, eerie
Followers of Watts and Leary
You could walk walk walk
To Marina Del Rey by the docks

The ancient world was in my reach
From my rooming house on Venice Beach

It was a rooming house on Venice Beach
About half a block
To the ancient sea which I could reach
With half a walk
The ancient weird guy in his toga
Staff in hand
The ancient bearded guy doing yoga
On the sand

The ancient world was in my reach
From my rooming house on Venice Beach

It was cheap cheap cheap
Nowadays I hear that rents are steep
It was rough rough rough
With ancient rustic hippie stuff
It was wild wild wild
You're never gonna call it mild
Hip hip hip
I could move and not make a second trip

The ancient world was in my reach
From my rooming house on Venice Beach

It was a rooming house on Venice Beach
All screwed up
Half a block from the ancient drunk guys
Passing the cup
Half a block from the bearded weird guys
Singing flat
Half a block from the weirdo weird guys
Passing the hat

The ancient world was in my reach
From my rooming house on Venice Beach

It was a rooming house on Venice Beach
Where I was
Half a block I loved that place
Just because
Well I didn't want it
Who would want my bag of crap
So I never locked the old screen door
I just let it flap

The ancient world was in my reach
From my rooming house on Venice Beach

It was rough rough rough
With ancient rustic hippie stuff
It was eerie, eerie, eerie
Followers of Watts and Leary
It was wild and free
And that appealed to me
It was hip hip hip
I could move and not make a second trip

The ancient world was in my reach
From my rooming house on Venice Beach

Javier, thanks for adding some photos to the images the song conjures up...

Chris

Last edited by ChrisPlatt; 06-13-2009 at 09:43 AM.

Jake67 · 06-13-2009, 12:54 PM

Originally posted by jgredline

Wow,I have a 645 that I have been working on getting through my first roll. I am inclined to hurry it up now.

You're in for a treat when you get that roll back. You're gonna love it.

brkl · 06-13-2009, 03:52 PM

Originally posted by jgredline

ME-F. Tokina 17mm F/3.5@F8, Kodal Gold 100
This is the Marina Del Rey Lagoon...I waited and waited until I felt the light was just right as I focused on the water.

Javier, those two are stunning. I love the colour.

jgredline · 06-13-2009, 05:46 PM

Originally posted by brkl

Javier, those two are stunning. I love the colour.

Thank you very much. I appreciate the kind words.

I am really liking that Kodak Gold 100. Seems to be better that the Ektar100 to me.

jgredline · 06-13-2009, 05:47 PM

Pentax ME-F , Tokina 17mm F/3.5, 99 cents cheapo film

jgredline · 06-13-2009, 08:40 PM

Originally posted by ChrisPlatt

Jonathan Richman lived in a less-upscale Venice Beach for a time in the 1970's:

Rooming House on Venice Beach by Jonathan Richman (free mp3 on last.fm)

It was a rooming house on Venice Beach
Nice and cheap
A radiator and a sagging bed
On which to sleep
I didn't lock it
Who would want my cheap guitar
And that T-shirt in those paper bags
Naw, naw

The ancient world was in my reach
From my rooming house on Venice Beach

It was rough rough rough
With ancient rustic hippie stuff
It was cheap cheap cheap
Nowadays I hear that rents are steep
It was eerie, eerie, eerie
Followers of Watts and Leary
You could walk walk walk
To Marina Del Rey by the docks

The ancient world was in my reach
From my rooming house on Venice Beach

It was a rooming house on Venice Beach
About half a block
To the ancient sea which I could reach
With half a walk
The ancient weird guy in his toga
Staff in hand
The ancient bearded guy doing yoga
On the sand

The ancient world was in my reach
From my rooming house on Venice Beach

It was cheap cheap cheap
Nowadays I hear that rents are steep
It was rough rough rough
With ancient rustic hippie stuff
It was wild wild wild
You're never gonna call it mild
Hip hip hip
I could move and not make a second trip

The ancient world was in my reach
From my rooming house on Venice Beach

It was a rooming house on Venice Beach
All screwed up
Half a block from the ancient drunk guys
Passing the cup
Half a block from the bearded weird guys
Singing flat
Half a block from the weirdo weird guys
Passing the hat

The ancient world was in my reach
From my rooming house on Venice Beach

It was a rooming house on Venice Beach
Where I was
Half a block I loved that place
Just because
Well I didn't want it
Who would want my bag of crap
So I never locked the old screen door
I just let it flap

The ancient world was in my reach
From my rooming house on Venice Beach

It was rough rough rough
With ancient rustic hippie stuff
It was eerie, eerie, eerie
Followers of Watts and Leary
It was wild and free
And that appealed to me
It was hip hip hip
I could move and not make a second trip

The ancient world was in my reach
From my rooming house on Venice Beach

Javier, thanks for adding some photos to the images the song conjures up...

Chris

I was in Venice today and was pondering all the Jim Morrison tributes around here as it was his stomping grounds. I for one Love the doors music.

Rustyoldbug · 06-14-2009, 01:31 PM

I was shooting off some more expired B&W with the SP1000 over at the Flying Leatherneck Air Museum the other day on an overcast morning (We have had the "June Gloom" here for several days). Here are a few of my new "Favorite Plane" - an old rusty Mitchell PBJ sitting out back. Oh... and a shot of my VW next to another plane before I left (I couldn't resist...)

Blue · 06-14-2009, 01:37 PM

RustyOldBug,

Every time I see one of those old "Mitchel" bombers, I'm amazed how those men flew 16 of them off of the deck of the USS Hornet. What men. Have you been up to the museum and March Air Base?

Nesster · 06-14-2009, 02:01 PM

Strong series on the planes, that first one especially has interesting tonality.

Kodak 160NC, Kodak Retina IIa

Rustyoldbug · 06-14-2009, 03:03 PM

Originally posted by Blue

RustyOldBug,

Every time I see one of those old "Mitchel" bombers, I'm amazed how those men flew 16 of them off of the deck of the USS Hornet. What men. Have you been up to the museum and March Air Base?

When I got out of the Army I rented a cheap, awful, firetrap dive close to school and the VA hospital, my neighbor was an old timer that was part of the Hornet's deck crew. Heard lots of stories running him to the VA and pouring him into my car when I would get a call from the local dive tavern to get him out of there before someone killed him. Old guy died from cancer. I remember the day he died. I was on my way to work and asked him if he needed anything on the way out. He was sitting there on the front stairs with his oxygen tank, a tin of cheap tobacco, and some Drum rolling papers - rolling his smokes for the day.

Can you imagine - "Well the good news; we can launch your big heavy bombers from the deck of the carrier men - barely... and we are going to attack Japanese targets. The bad news; the deck is too short to land, good luck getting to unoccupied China..."

I have not been to March Airfield yet - it is on the to do list. Went to Boeing's museum when I lived there and have been to the National Air & Space a million times when I was a kid living outside DC.

Originally posted by Nesster

Strong series on the planes, that first one especially has interesting tonality.

Thanks, I am still on a pretty steep learning curve with my own developing. I seem to do OK with nice fresh Ilford & Tmax, but still get mixed results with the old expired film I have been experimenting with.

Started using distilled water for the last rinse and that has pretty much eliminated the spot issue (the water is so hard here, I am surprised I don't have gravel coming out of the faucet).

The dust is still kicking my rear though - I cleaned EVERYTHING, but am still getting dust marks from somewhere. I think it might be coming from the cloth I use to light seal my bathroom, so next batch I need to try something else as a "light curtain"

jgredline · 06-14-2009, 03:44 PM

Rusty, those are excellent plain photos and I believe it is the most perfect use of film. I can't see a digital image looking as good in this context!. Well done

Rustyoldbug · 06-14-2009, 07:45 PM

Originally posted by jgredline

Rusty, those are excellent plain photos and I believe it is the most perfect use of film. I can't see a digital image looking as good in this context!. Well done

I just thought the"finely aged" B&W was appropriate for the old warbirds. I have several rolls hanging now - More of the neglected Mitchell, plus a lot of an old "Texan", a restored Avenger, and a restored Corsair. Didn't really shoot much more, the more modern planes didn't do a lot for me.

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06-12-2009, 09:07 PM	#826
jgredline Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: LosAngeles, Ca. Photos: Albums Posts: 10,628 Original Poster	Originally posted by Jake67 Thanks. Here's one from the same day. From what I remember, I had just enough light to shoot handheld at 2.8 if I pushed the film one stop. (800iso) The effect of shooting people with that lens wide open is pretty dramatic. Sometimes it works. Wow,I have a 645 that I have been working on getting through my first roll. I am inclined to hurry it up now.

06-12-2009, 09:18 PM	#827
jgredline Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: LosAngeles, Ca. Photos: Albums Posts: 10,628 Original Poster	ME-F. Tokina 17mm F/3.5@F8, Kodal Gold 100 This is the Marina Del Rey Lagoon...I waited and waited until I felt the light was just right as I focused on the water.

06-13-2009, 12:09 AM	#828
Agnostic Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 414	Originally posted by Jake67 Thanks. Here's one from the same day. From what I remember, I had just enough light to shoot handheld at 2.8 if I pushed the film one stop. (800iso) The effect of shooting people with that lens wide open is pretty dramatic. Sometimes it works. Great, that photo really explodes off the page! Originally posted by jgredline ME-F. Tokina 17mm F/3.5@F8, Kodal Gold 100 This is the Marina Del Rey Lagoon...I waited and waited until I felt the light was just right as I focused on the water. Nice ones!

06-13-2009, 09:36 AM	#829
ChrisPlatt Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Rockaway Beach NYC Posts: 7,694	Jonathan Richman lived in a less-upscale Venice Beach for a time in the 1970's: Rooming House on Venice Beach by Jonathan Richman (free mp3 on last.fm) It was a rooming house on Venice Beach Nice and cheap A radiator and a sagging bed On which to sleep I didn't lock it Who would want my cheap guitar And that T-shirt in those paper bags Naw, naw The ancient world was in my reach From my rooming house on Venice Beach It was rough rough rough With ancient rustic hippie stuff It was cheap cheap cheap Nowadays I hear that rents are steep It was eerie, eerie, eerie Followers of Watts and Leary You could walk walk walk To Marina Del Rey by the docks The ancient world was in my reach From my rooming house on Venice Beach It was a rooming house on Venice Beach About half a block To the ancient sea which I could reach With half a walk The ancient weird guy in his toga Staff in hand The ancient bearded guy doing yoga On the sand The ancient world was in my reach From my rooming house on Venice Beach It was cheap cheap cheap Nowadays I hear that rents are steep It was rough rough rough With ancient rustic hippie stuff It was wild wild wild You're never gonna call it mild Hip hip hip I could move and not make a second trip The ancient world was in my reach From my rooming house on Venice Beach It was a rooming house on Venice Beach All screwed up Half a block from the ancient drunk guys Passing the cup Half a block from the bearded weird guys Singing flat Half a block from the weirdo weird guys Passing the hat The ancient world was in my reach From my rooming house on Venice Beach It was a rooming house on Venice Beach Where I was Half a block I loved that place Just because Well I didn't want it Who would want my bag of crap So I never locked the old screen door I just let it flap The ancient world was in my reach From my rooming house on Venice Beach It was rough rough rough With ancient rustic hippie stuff It was eerie, eerie, eerie Followers of Watts and Leary It was wild and free And that appealed to me It was hip hip hip I could move and not make a second trip The ancient world was in my reach From my rooming house on Venice Beach Javier, thanks for adding some photos to the images the song conjures up... Chris Last edited by ChrisPlatt; 06-13-2009 at 09:43 AM.

06-13-2009, 12:54 PM	#830
Jake67 Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Roanoke, VA Photos: Gallery Posts: 74	Originally posted by jgredline Wow,I have a 645 that I have been working on getting through my first roll. I am inclined to hurry it up now. You're in for a treat when you get that roll back. You're gonna love it.

06-13-2009, 03:52 PM	#831
brkl Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 497	Originally posted by jgredline ME-F. Tokina 17mm F/3.5@F8, Kodal Gold 100 This is the Marina Del Rey Lagoon...I waited and waited until I felt the light was just right as I focused on the water. Javier, those two are stunning. I love the colour.

06-13-2009, 05:46 PM	#832
jgredline Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: LosAngeles, Ca. Photos: Albums Posts: 10,628 Original Poster	Originally posted by brkl Javier, those two are stunning. I love the colour. Thank you very much. I appreciate the kind words. I am really liking that Kodak Gold 100. Seems to be better that the Ektar100 to me.

06-13-2009, 05:47 PM	#833
jgredline Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: LosAngeles, Ca. Photos: Albums Posts: 10,628 Original Poster	Pentax ME-F , Tokina 17mm F/3.5, 99 cents cheapo film

06-13-2009, 08:40 PM	#834
jgredline Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: LosAngeles, Ca. Photos: Albums Posts: 10,628 Original Poster	Originally posted by ChrisPlatt Jonathan Richman lived in a less-upscale Venice Beach for a time in the 1970's: Rooming House on Venice Beach by Jonathan Richman (free mp3 on last.fm) It was a rooming house on Venice Beach Nice and cheap A radiator and a sagging bed On which to sleep I didn't lock it Who would want my cheap guitar And that T-shirt in those paper bags Naw, naw The ancient world was in my reach From my rooming house on Venice Beach It was rough rough rough With ancient rustic hippie stuff It was cheap cheap cheap Nowadays I hear that rents are steep It was eerie, eerie, eerie Followers of Watts and Leary You could walk walk walk To Marina Del Rey by the docks The ancient world was in my reach From my rooming house on Venice Beach It was a rooming house on Venice Beach About half a block To the ancient sea which I could reach With half a walk The ancient weird guy in his toga Staff in hand The ancient bearded guy doing yoga On the sand The ancient world was in my reach From my rooming house on Venice Beach It was cheap cheap cheap Nowadays I hear that rents are steep It was rough rough rough With ancient rustic hippie stuff It was wild wild wild You're never gonna call it mild Hip hip hip I could move and not make a second trip The ancient world was in my reach From my rooming house on Venice Beach It was a rooming house on Venice Beach All screwed up Half a block from the ancient drunk guys Passing the cup Half a block from the bearded weird guys Singing flat Half a block from the weirdo weird guys Passing the hat The ancient world was in my reach From my rooming house on Venice Beach It was a rooming house on Venice Beach Where I was Half a block I loved that place Just because Well I didn't want it Who would want my bag of crap So I never locked the old screen door I just let it flap The ancient world was in my reach From my rooming house on Venice Beach It was rough rough rough With ancient rustic hippie stuff It was eerie, eerie, eerie Followers of Watts and Leary It was wild and free And that appealed to me It was hip hip hip I could move and not make a second trip The ancient world was in my reach From my rooming house on Venice Beach Javier, thanks for adding some photos to the images the song conjures up... Chris I was in Venice today and was pondering all the Jim Morrison tributes around here as it was his stomping grounds. I for one Love the doors music.

06-14-2009, 01:31 PM	#835
Rustyoldbug Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North San Diego, California Photos: Gallery Posts: 137	I was shooting off some more expired B&W with the SP1000 over at the Flying Leatherneck Air Museum the other day on an overcast morning (We have had the "June Gloom" here for several days). Here are a few of my new "Favorite Plane" - an old rusty Mitchell PBJ sitting out back. Oh... and a shot of my VW next to another plane before I left (I couldn't resist...)

06-14-2009, 01:37 PM	#836
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	RustyOldBug, Every time I see one of those old "Mitchel" bombers, I'm amazed how those men flew 16 of them off of the deck of the USS Hornet. What men. Have you been up to the museum and March Air Base?

06-14-2009, 02:01 PM	#837
Nesster Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NJ USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 13,072	Strong series on the planes, that first one especially has interesting tonality. Kodak 160NC, Kodak Retina IIa

06-14-2009, 03:03 PM	#838
Rustyoldbug Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North San Diego, California Photos: Gallery Posts: 137	Originally posted by Blue RustyOldBug, Every time I see one of those old "Mitchel" bombers, I'm amazed how those men flew 16 of them off of the deck of the USS Hornet. What men. Have you been up to the museum and March Air Base? When I got out of the Army I rented a cheap, awful, firetrap dive close to school and the VA hospital, my neighbor was an old timer that was part of the Hornet's deck crew. Heard lots of stories running him to the VA and pouring him into my car when I would get a call from the local dive tavern to get him out of there before someone killed him. Old guy died from cancer. I remember the day he died. I was on my way to work and asked him if he needed anything on the way out. He was sitting there on the front stairs with his oxygen tank, a tin of cheap tobacco, and some Drum rolling papers - rolling his smokes for the day. Can you imagine - "Well the good news; we can launch your big heavy bombers from the deck of the carrier men - barely... and we are going to attack Japanese targets. The bad news; the deck is too short to land, good luck getting to unoccupied China..." I have not been to March Airfield yet - it is on the to do list. Went to Boeing's museum when I lived there and have been to the National Air & Space a million times when I was a kid living outside DC. Originally posted by Nesster Strong series on the planes, that first one especially has interesting tonality. Thanks, I am still on a pretty steep learning curve with my own developing. I seem to do OK with nice fresh Ilford & Tmax, but still get mixed results with the old expired film I have been experimenting with. Started using distilled water for the last rinse and that has pretty much eliminated the spot issue (the water is so hard here, I am surprised I don't have gravel coming out of the faucet). The dust is still kicking my rear though - I cleaned EVERYTHING, but am still getting dust marks from somewhere. I think it might be coming from the cloth I use to light seal my bathroom, so next batch I need to try something else as a "light curtain"

06-14-2009, 03:44 PM	#839
jgredline Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: LosAngeles, Ca. Photos: Albums Posts: 10,628 Original Poster	Rusty, those are excellent plain photos and I believe it is the most perfect use of film. I can't see a digital image looking as good in this context!. Well done

06-14-2009, 07:45 PM	#840
Rustyoldbug Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North San Diego, California Photos: Gallery Posts: 137	Originally posted by jgredline Rusty, those are excellent plain photos and I believe it is the most perfect use of film. I can't see a digital image looking as good in this context!. Well done I just thought the"finely aged" B&W was appropriate for the old warbirds. I have several rolls hanging now - More of the neglected Mitchell, plus a lot of an old "Texan", a restored Avenger, and a restored Corsair. Didn't really shoot much more, the more modern planes didn't do a lot for me.