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ElStellino · 05-24-2012, 05:18 AM

So, an MEF with any lens will give the beep or the green led when it's on focus? That's because I found one quite cheap here in LT last week or so, sold online as an ME but it is obviously an MEF

bombel · 05-24-2012, 05:33 AM

Yes, ME F gives beep and focus confirmation even with manual lenses.

ElStellino · 05-24-2012, 06:02 AM

Originally posted by bombel

Yes, ME F gives beep and focus confirmation even with manual lenses.

Now I feel compelled to get it!
But... but... I don't need it!

uswrdm02 · 05-24-2012, 10:18 AM

Do they make a black ME F do you know - these are nice - and give the audible beep.

Rich

womble · 05-24-2012, 11:00 AM

Originally posted by uswrdm02

Do they make a black ME F do you know - these are nice - and give the audible beep.

Rich

Yes, there were black ones but they are not very common.

K.

uswrdm02 · 05-24-2012, 11:30 AM

Thanks !

Rich

**paulh** · 05-24-2012, 04:15 PM

Originally posted by ElStellino

Now I feel compelled to get it!
But... but... I don't need it!

A common ailment amongst many forum members here

BTW, the ME/ME Super has such a fantastic viewfinder, a focus confirmation beep is really overkill (but kinda cool I guess)

Swift1 · 05-24-2012, 08:30 PM

I kinda stopped buying film cameras last year due to my health, but I couldn't resist this MX that was selling for $25+shipping. Of course that was without the 43 limited

Seems to be in near perfect condition.

KJon · 05-25-2012, 05:20 AM

Colton, you'll have to let us know what you think of the MX. I have one purchased over a year ago that needs some work and I've been holding off sending it to Eric as I've had other priorities <g>. Last roll of film I managed to shoot was in January; not due to a lack of inclination, but of time.

Best,
Kevin

Argenticien · 05-25-2012, 05:22 AM

Originally posted by Swift1

I kinda stopped buying film cameras last year due to my health, but I couldn't resist this MX that was selling for $25+shipping. Of course that was without the 43 limited

Seems to be in near perfect condition.

Do the lens aperture numbers on the Limited line up in the right place for the Judas window to read them into the viewfinder display? And if yes, are they very readable being black figures on chrome rather than the white figures on black (as would have been present instead on then-current lenses when the MX was new)? If this question sounds familiar to anyone, it is. I've asked it about as regards old Taks on the MX. Don't know why the fascination, other than it's super-cool if a feature like that -- a "nice to have" feature, not even an essential one -- works on most lenses, including blatantly period-inappropriate ones, introduced over a span of about fifty years. Maybe I should stop asking and get an MX and all the lenses, so as to test for myself.

--Dave

**monochrome** · 05-25-2012, 08:59 AM

Originally posted by Argenticien

Do the lens aperture numbers on the Limited line up in the right place for the Judas window to read them into the viewfinder display? And if yes, are they very readable being black figures on chrome rather than the white figures on black (as would have been present instead on then-current lenses when the MX was new)? If this question sounds familiar to anyone, it is. I've asked it about as regards old Taks on the MX. Don't know why the fascination, other than it's super-cool if a feature like that -- a "nice to have" feature, not even an essential one -- works on most lenses, including blatantly period-inappropriate ones, introduced over a span of about fifty years. Maybe I should stop asking and get an MX and all the lenses, so as to test for myself.

--Dave

I don't have limited lenses to test this, but the Judas Window is just a prism lens angled in such a way as to project into the focusing screen frame whatever is directly beneath the window.

For many of my Takumar lenses the aperture ring doesn't quite line up perfectly (IOW, the K-mount adapter threads are cut such that the lens isn't correctly oriented when fully seated). My guess is the only reason you wouldn't see a black numeral on a silver background would have something to do with light transmission.

Swift1 · 05-25-2012, 12:54 PM

Originally posted by Argenticien

Do the lens aperture numbers on the Limited line up in the right place for the Judas window to read them into the viewfinder display? And if yes, are they very readable being black figures on chrome rather than the white figures on black (as would have been present instead on then-current lenses when the MX was new)?
--Dave

The aperture ring on the 43 Ltd. lines up perfectly with the window and the f/stops also line up perfectly. The f/stops on the silver lens are very easy to read in the viewfinder. Haven't tried a Takumar.

johnha · 05-25-2012, 03:10 PM

The curious thing for me, is that when in dim light the white on black of the M lens engravings, becomes black on grey (presumably from the relief of the engravings). If using the Tamron Adapall-II lenses, the KM mount has a repeater aperture ring in right place for the window.

stevebrot · 05-25-2012, 08:19 PM

Originally posted by Swift1

Haven't tried a Takumar.

With Taks and other M42 lenses, it is anyone's guess how they will align. None of my M42 normal lenses (Ricoh, Mamiya, Pentax) place the index mark at top center on the bodies they were made to fit. Strangely, I have one combination that displays aperture correctly for my K-mount bodies with a Judas window. That is my Vivitar 135/2.8 when paired with one of my two genuine Pentax K-mount adapters. The other adapter is off by several degrees.

Steve

séamuis · 05-26-2012, 05:00 AM

I just tried four different screw mount lenses on my MX. zeiss planar 50 ZM, auto-takumar 55, super-takumar 55 and SMC Takumar 55. the only one that actually worked was the Zeiss. none of them actually lined up at 12oclock so it would be useless anyway, but the aperture was visible in the window with the zeiss. I believe this is because of the placement of the aperture ring relative to the rear of the lens. the takumar's aperture rings simply aren't far enough forward on the lens to be seen through the window. so aligned or not, I don't think you will be able to utilize the window with takumars.

05-25-2012, 08:59 AM	#1781
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by Argenticien Do the lens aperture numbers on the Limited line up in the right place for the Judas window to read them into the viewfinder display? And if yes, are they very readable being black figures on chrome rather than the white figures on black (as would have been present instead on then-current lenses when the MX was new)? If this question sounds familiar to anyone, it is. I've asked it about as regards old Taks on the MX. Don't know why the fascination, other than it's super-cool if a feature like that -- a "nice to have" feature, not even an essential one -- works on most lenses, including blatantly period-inappropriate ones, introduced over a span of about fifty years. Maybe I should stop asking and get an MX and all the lenses, so as to test for myself. --Dave I don't have limited lenses to test this, but the Judas Window is just a prism lens angled in such a way as to project into the focusing screen frame whatever is directly beneath the window. For many of my Takumar lenses the aperture ring doesn't quite line up perfectly (IOW, the K-mount adapter threads are cut such that the lens isn't correctly oriented when fully seated). My guess is the only reason you wouldn't see a black numeral on a silver background would have something to do with light transmission. Attached Images

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05-24-2012, 05:18 AM	#1771
ElStellino Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 110	So, an MEF with any lens will give the beep or the green led when it's on focus? That's because I found one quite cheap here in LT last week or so, sold online as an ME but it is obviously an MEF

05-24-2012, 05:33 AM	#1772
bombel Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Kraków Photos: Albums Posts: 90	Yes, ME F gives beep and focus confirmation even with manual lenses.

05-24-2012, 06:02 AM	#1773
ElStellino Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 110	Originally posted by bombel Yes, ME F gives beep and focus confirmation even with manual lenses. Now I feel compelled to get it! But... but... I don't need it!

05-24-2012, 10:18 AM	#1774
uswrdm02 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Photos: Gallery Posts: 72	Do they make a black ME F do you know - these are nice - and give the audible beep. Rich

05-24-2012, 11:00 AM	#1775
womble Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Hertfordshire Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,324	Originally posted by uswrdm02 Do they make a black ME F do you know - these are nice - and give the audible beep. Rich Yes, there were black ones but they are not very common. K.

05-24-2012, 11:30 AM	#1776
uswrdm02 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Photos: Gallery Posts: 72	Thanks ! Rich

05-24-2012, 04:15 PM	#1777
paulh Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: DFW Texas/Ventura County, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 33,263	Originally posted by ElStellino Now I feel compelled to get it! But... but... I don't need it! A common ailment amongst many forum members here BTW, the ME/ME Super has such a fantastic viewfinder, a focus confirmation beep is really overkill (but kinda cool I guess)

05-24-2012, 08:30 PM	#1778
Swift1 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Oregon Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,079	I kinda stopped buying film cameras last year due to my health, but I couldn't resist this MX that was selling for $25+shipping. Of course that was without the 43 limited Seems to be in near perfect condition.

05-25-2012, 05:20 AM	#1779
KJon Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Connecticut, USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 542	Colton, you'll have to let us know what you think of the MX. I have one purchased over a year ago that needs some work and I've been holding off sending it to Eric as I've had other priorities <g>. Last roll of film I managed to shoot was in January; not due to a lack of inclination, but of time. Best, Kevin

05-25-2012, 05:22 AM	#1780
Argenticien Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 208	Originally posted by Swift1 I kinda stopped buying film cameras last year due to my health, but I couldn't resist this MX that was selling for $25+shipping. Of course that was without the 43 limited Seems to be in near perfect condition. Do the lens aperture numbers on the Limited line up in the right place for the Judas window to read them into the viewfinder display? And if yes, are they very readable being black figures on chrome rather than the white figures on black (as would have been present instead on then-current lenses when the MX was new)? If this question sounds familiar to anyone, it is. I've asked it about as regards old Taks on the MX. Don't know why the fascination, other than it's super-cool if a feature like that -- a "nice to have" feature, not even an essential one -- works on most lenses, including blatantly period-inappropriate ones, introduced over a span of about fifty years. Maybe I should stop asking and get an MX and all the lenses, so as to test for myself. --Dave

05-25-2012, 12:54 PM	#1782
Swift1 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Oregon Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,079	Originally posted by Argenticien Do the lens aperture numbers on the Limited line up in the right place for the Judas window to read them into the viewfinder display? And if yes, are they very readable being black figures on chrome rather than the white figures on black (as would have been present instead on then-current lenses when the MX was new)? --Dave The aperture ring on the 43 Ltd. lines up perfectly with the window and the f/stops also line up perfectly. The f/stops on the silver lens are very easy to read in the viewfinder. Haven't tried a Takumar.

05-25-2012, 03:10 PM	#1783
johnha Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Lancashire, UK Photos: Albums Posts: 1,155	The curious thing for me, is that when in dim light the white on black of the M lens engravings, becomes black on grey (presumably from the relief of the engravings). If using the Tamron Adapall-II lenses, the KM mount has a repeater aperture ring in right place for the window.

05-25-2012, 08:19 PM	#1784
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by Swift1 Haven't tried a Takumar. With Taks and other M42 lenses, it is anyone's guess how they will align. None of my M42 normal lenses (Ricoh, Mamiya, Pentax) place the index mark at top center on the bodies they were made to fit. Strangely, I have one combination that displays aperture correctly for my K-mount bodies with a Judas window. That is my Vivitar 135/2.8 when paired with one of my two genuine Pentax K-mount adapters. The other adapter is off by several degrees. Steve

05-26-2012, 05:00 AM	#1785
séamuis Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Savannah, U.S./Baguio City, P.H. Posts: 5,979	I just tried four different screw mount lenses on my MX. zeiss planar 50 ZM, auto-takumar 55, super-takumar 55 and SMC Takumar 55. the only one that actually worked was the Zeiss. none of them actually lined up at 12oclock so it would be useless anyway, but the aperture was visible in the window with the zeiss. I believe this is because of the placement of the aperture ring relative to the rear of the lens. the takumar's aperture rings simply aren't far enough forward on the lens to be seen through the window. so aligned or not, I don't think you will be able to utilize the window with takumars.