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05-06-2009, 09:29 AM   #46
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But if your scanning the film anyway it's no better than your scanner. You lose all the attributes and subtleties and depth of film. Might as well shoot digital and desaturate.
Not in my experience. A good scanner has more than enough resolution to bring out the grain in most black and white films.

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Not in my experience. A good scanner has more than enough resolution to bring out the grain in most black and white films.
I have access to high end scanners most folks will never see nor be able to use. It's my job. There is still "something" missing. IMPO And lets face it most people buy the copier/scanner/fax Or a $200 scanner and think it's high end. My cheapest Epson scanner new is over $1,000
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Scanners dynamic range far less than most B/W film. You will always lose "depth" with a scan.

graphicgr8s is right (pun intended), you will never get the feel of a wet process print when you scan.

But as I have no access to a darkroom, it is the best I can do, and I like the results of scanned Tri-X better then faking it in PS.

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Scanners dynamic range far less than most B/W film. You will always lose "depth" with a scan.
That's true, scanning is never going to match the theoretical dynamic range of black and white film. On the other hand, neither do photographic papers, which have a more limited dynamic range of perhaps around 6+ stops. My 48-bit scanner claims a relatively conservative DR of 3.6 - in practice it may be a bit less, but still enough to handle that 6-stop range.

IMHO dynamic range is not the be-all and end-all. You can stuff all the DR you like into an image, but there is then a danger that the result will be rather flat.
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QuoteOriginally posted by KungPOW Quote
Scanners dynamic range far less than most B/W film. You will always lose "depth" with a scan.

graphicgr8s is right (pun intended), you will never get the feel of a wet process print when you scan.

But as I have no access to a darkroom, it is the best I can do, and I like the results of scanned Tri-X better then faking it in PS.
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I have access to high end scanners most folks will never see nor be able to use. It's my job. There is still "something" missing. IMPO And lets face it most people buy the copier/scanner/fax Or a $200 scanner and think it's high end. My cheapest Epson scanner new is over $1,000
Either way, something is going to have to be scanned in order to digitize a pic for internet and computer usage.

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