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01-23-2010, 11:50 AM   #16
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The P3N is not a bad looking camera, nor does it lack too many features that I use regularly. It's crime is in representing the downfall of the camera style that we all liked so much and which made Pentax such a big player.

The plastic materials turned into plastic 'ergonomic' styling. They were easier to hold but harder to operate. Pentax started to 'feature chase' and added autowind and autofocus. This meant bigger bodies with expensive batteries. All of a sudden you have a range of big, awkward cameras which were far from intuitive.

I'm not saying that there was not a market for these new type of cameras, but the cheaper models did nobody any favours. The pro models have control dials and multiple LCD displays but the consumer models are difficult to figure out.

I'd like to go back to late 80's Pentax to tell them to stick to quality metal construction and stop chasing the crowd! I'd also tell them to keep the Superprogram as their traditional SLR instead of the K1000 :P

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Personally, when those hit the market they were good but late to the dance. I had a choice between one of those or a Chinon CP-7M. I went with the later for about $150 less ~1988 and faster shutter (stepless 1/2000), built-in motor winder, .87 x [.92] viewfinder compared to the .82 x [.92]. In fact I still have it. I actually went to the store to get a P3n.
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That sounds like an amazing camera. I looked it up, ugly as sin, but so were they all around that time.
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I have the CP-7m too. It's quite nice. The autowinder is strong enough to handle bulk-rolled film, which my ZX-M sometimes can't. I've shot with it in deep-winter temperatures without problems. Also, little-known fact: the CP-7m's full-program mode works on K/M-type Pentax lenses. No Pentax camera has ever had that.

I don't love the viewfinder though -- I find the color-fringing effects distracting.

Between the two, my P30n sees more use.

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I do not know the P3, but I got a P30t that was attached to a lens I wanted.
It is a great camera to carry around, I put it in my car so it is with me all the time.
Besides all the good features mentions, the fact that there is a standard cable for remote shooting located at the side of the camera is brilliant!
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QuoteOriginally posted by titrisol Quote
I do not know the P3, but I got a P30t that was attached to a lens I wanted.
It is a great camera to carry around, I put it in my car so it is with me all the time.
Besides all the good features mentions, the fact that there is a standard cable for remote shooting located at the side of the camera is brilliant!
The P30t and P3n are very similar bodies. The P30t has a diagonally split focusing screen compared to the horizontal one in the P3n and apparently the P30t has a plastic film door.

P3n/ P30n,P30t
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I friend of mine had the P30t. It felt fine in my hand and the diagonal focusing screen is nice. But DX coding only is a no-no.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Blue Quote
The P30t and P3n are very similar bodies. The P30t has a diagonally split focusing screen compared to the horizontal one in the P3n and apparently the P30t has a plastic film door.

P3n*/ P30n,*P30t
The P3n was switched to the plastic film door at some point in it's life as well. I know mine had the plastic film door.

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QuoteOriginally posted by brkl Quote
I friend of mine had the P30t. It felt fine in my hand and the diagonal focusing screen is nice. But DX coding only is a no-no.
Just hack the code with a razor blade and electrical tape.
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Yeaah, I prefer a dial for that.
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NEd rocks!

I love my P3N. It must be the most underrated Pentax manual focus body.
It's a best value, too. A nice, working P3N sold for $6.02 on eBay last night.

FWIW Porter's sells DX labels for ISO 40, 100, 125, 400, 800, 1600 and 3200.
These can be applied to any 35mm film cartridge, commercial or bulk-loaded.

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QuoteOriginally posted by brkl Quote
Yeaah, I prefer a dial for that.
So do I, but people act like nothing can be done, when obviously something can. Also we need to be really honest here - how often do most people push or pull film? almost never is probably the right answer.
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The P3n is a

pain. my first love was my first camera, a minolta xg-1. it was stolen 20 years ago. I finally ventured into the standard SLR once again by purchasing a used P3n. It had a film advance holder roller do-hicky problem...it fell out. I thought this would be an easy fix...so I paid the lady $60.00 fot it plus three lenses.
SMC Pentax - M 1:17 50mm
SMC Pentax - A 1:2 50mm
SMC Pentax -M Zoom 1:2.8-4; 40-80mm
Tamrac bag, flash, cable release,manual.

Well I couldn't fix the darn thing and $75.00 repair bill later the darn thing sat in the dark for four months. Bad Bad Karma. I finally pulled it out with the encouragement of my Nikonian neighbor and took some indoor shots and some outdoor shots. The indoor shots were hit and miss the outdoor shots were overexposed ( big lesson there). So it has sat in the bag until a week ago. The nixonian and I went to a horse show. I put b/w into the P using the 50mm 1:2. set the thing on auto pilot. I'll let you know. (p.s.) thanks for the push/pull tip--my neighbor talks about it all the time.

'Cause of my disgust with the P3n I went on a quest. Found and paid for a few cousins with lenses. Still haven't learned the knack of loading the film...my car show shots using a 18-35 wide were blank. This 35mm business has now become a disease. CBA/LBA.
The Family Affair:
P3n, Ricoh XR-2s, Sigma SA-1, auto 110 (more bad karma) and the newest kid Sigma SA-5 with a Sigma High-Speed Wide 28mm 1:1.8 ( i have no freaking idea what the heck I got a hold of now - aspherical ?) ,
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It's Sunday night, and another nice P3n body just sold for $4.95 on eBay...

Chris
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I forgot another awesome little thing about the P3/n/t - super easy flim loading! It is by far the easiest to load manual wind camera I've ever seen. MUCH easier than:
Super Program
ME super
K1000

...and I'm sure there are more that I have forgotten.
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